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      03-27-2016, 02:53 PM   #1
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Does anyone know this e91 335i?

Does anyone know this 335i e91?

It's had a HARTGE tune and has an LSD. I think it was last around the Newbury area and now for sale up in Huddersfield.

I've put a deposit on it. Car seems to check up ok I just wondered if anyone has any info or knows the previous owner?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01603192126436
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      03-27-2016, 03:33 PM   #2
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95k on an early N54.
That's brave imo. Car looks alright though.
Good colour combo too
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      03-27-2016, 03:48 PM   #3
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All depends on what has been done and service history. If you get it make sure you get a decent warranty with it.
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      03-27-2016, 03:48 PM   #4
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Hmm. Are the early ones prone to problems? It's got loads of history.

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95k on an early N54.
That's brave imo. Car looks alright though.
Good colour combo too
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      03-27-2016, 03:56 PM   #5
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No more prone than any 2nd hand car I'd say. Sure, the N54 can have issues, but regularly they're for sale with double that mileage, so I wouldn't have an issue with it. Especially if the service history backs it all up. Looks nice, apart from the silicone spray crap all over the steering wheel and stalks
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      03-27-2016, 04:02 PM   #6
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Haha .Yeah hopefully that'll wear off.

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No more prone than any 2nd hand car I'd say. Sure, the N54 can have issues, but regularly they're for sale with double that mileage, so I wouldn't have an issue with it. Especially if the service history backs it all up. Looks nice, apart from the silicone spray crap all over the steering wheel and stalks
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      03-27-2016, 04:13 PM   #7
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No more prone than any 2nd hand car I'd say. Sure, the N54 can have issues, but regularly they're for sale with double that mileage, so I wouldn't have an issue with it. Especially if the service history backs it all up. Looks nice, apart from the silicone spray crap all over the steering wheel and stalks
I saw that & wondered what it was thought they looked Furry.

Birds used to do Hartge stuff. So more than likely been through them.

Nice looking interior bit more interesting especially with the sedate grey exterior.
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      03-27-2016, 04:21 PM   #8
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Yeah totally. Light interiors normally aren't my bag but it does look good with the dark exterior. The standard M sport trim looked a bit weird though, I'll probably change that for piano black or carbon.

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I saw that & wondered what it was thought they looked Furry.

Birds used to do Hartge stuff. So more than likely been through them.

Nice looking interior bit more interesting especially with the sedate grey exterior.
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      03-27-2016, 04:29 PM   #9
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Love lemon leather. Had that in my last 330d and it was lovely. It was the first time I'd not had black leather in a car and I really liked it. My current 335i has Oyster leather, and whatever comes next won't have black either.
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      03-27-2016, 04:31 PM   #10
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Lovely looking motor. Don't let the miles put you off... as long as you can establish it has been looked after correctly and not driven into the ground.

I am sure we all know the N54 engine is known for it's (personality) issues, but IMO it's the performance engine that you want - a very special and desirable platform, even more so for tuning. I know for me, all the hardship goes out of the window every time I experience the performance - especially with a remap

Enjoy it, expect things to go wrong quite frequently, and try to get the Mondial warranty if you can. Highly recommended.

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      03-27-2016, 04:34 PM   #11
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Yeah totally. Actually my last e91 was sparkling graphite M-sport with the terracotta Dakota leather. That worked really well too.

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Love lemon leather. Had that in my last 330d and it was lovely. It was the first time I'd not had black leather in a car and I really liked it. My current 335i has Oyster leather, and whatever comes next won't have black either.
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      03-27-2016, 04:36 PM   #12
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Thanks for that. It's coming with 12 months Auto Protect warranty, I'll take a look into the Mondial.

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Lovely looking motor. Don't let the miles put you off... as long as you can establish it has been looked after correctly and not driven into the ground.

I am sure we all know the N54 engine is known for it's (personality) issues, but IMO it's the performance engine that you want - a very special and desirable engine. I know for me, all the hardship goes out of the window every time I experience the performance - especially with a remap

Enjoy it, expect things to go wrong quite frequently, and try to get the Mondial warranty if you can. Highly recommended.
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Mondial warranty will be very expensive at that mileage. Suspect £100 a month or so. Not sure how they'd caveat the Hartge upgrades either.

Regsrding the car, just do it. You'll love it!
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2007 should be N54?
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      03-27-2016, 04:42 PM   #15
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Hehhe. Done :-D

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Mondial warranty will be very expensive at that mileage. Suspect £100 a month or so. Not sure how they'd caveat the Hartge upgrades either.

Regsrding the car, just do it. You'll love it!
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      03-28-2016, 01:30 AM   #16
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Only reason I ask is because on the Mondial BMW warranty site it threw back:
BMW 335I M SPORT TOURING N52

On another note, I'd REALLY appreciate - for a small clutch of gold of course - someone who knows these cars inside-out going and taking a look at it for me. It's up in Huddersfield which is a fair trek for me so I'll swat up ahead of going to test it, but would much rather someone off here who's lived with one/worked on one went to see it too really.



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2007 should be N54?
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      03-28-2016, 05:26 AM   #17
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The N52 is just a typo, I've seen such errors before.

But I would agree with Matt, the modifications would breach the terms of the Mondial warranty, so you could be spending over a 1k and run a serious risk of getting a claim denied.

Have you checked MOT history?

I presume it doesn't have full BMW Main dealer service history, or they would have said so. But you could always check any work done with BMW, that would tell if it's had major work done.

Maybe a BMW specialist in Yorkshire for a ppi, if you want it checked out.
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      03-28-2016, 06:31 AM   #18
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I'm going to go through all the MOT history with a fine tooth comb when I go up. It's had countless receipts, no it's not all BMW, most was done at a specialist in Newbury, they gave me the name (although I've now forgotten) in case I wanted to talk to them.

Regarding the warranty.

My general POV though is to put say £50 a month aside in a savings account or something, so that in the unfortunate event something major goes wrong I can use it towards any work that needs doing. And then if there is any left when I come to sell the car I just lump it in towards the next car.

As the car is nearly 10 years old now I'm not looking to go to main dealer. I'll be using the specialist shop I've always used for my BMW's. I'll be doing a bit of the maintenance myself too. The car isn't smothered in electrical optional extras so fingers crossed there's less of the annoying things to go wrong (There you go, I've just cursed it).



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The N52 is just a typo, I've seen such errors before.

But I would agree with Matt, the modifications would breach the terms of the Mondial warranty, so you could be spending over a 1k and run a serious risk of getting a claim denied.

Have you checked MOT history?

I presume it doesn't have full BMW Main dealer service history, or they would have said so. But you could always check any work done with BMW, that would tell if it's had major work done.

Maybe a BMW specialist in Yorkshire for a ppi, if you want it checked out.
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My general POV though is to put say £50 a month aside in a savings account or something, so that in the unfortunate event something major goes wrong I can use it towards any work that needs doing. And then if there is any left when I come to sell the car I just lump it in towards the next car.

You'll need to double it, £50 per month won't sort many issues out should things go wrong. Plus add general pre-emptive maintenance such as a gear box oil change, cooling system etc.

I've spent about £1500 per year on odd issues etc each year I owned my 330i, a car which is considered more reliable due to not having turbos.
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I'm going to go through all the MOT history with a fine tooth comb when I go up. It's had countless receipts, no it's not all BMW, most was done at a specialist in Newbury, they gave me the name (although I've now forgotten) in case I wanted to talk to them.

Regarding the warranty.

My general POV though is to put say £50 a month aside in a savings account or something, so that in the unfortunate event something major goes wrong I can use it towards any work that needs doing. And then if there is any left when I come to sell the car I just lump it in towards the next car.

As the car is nearly 10 years old now I'm not looking to go to main dealer. I'll be using the specialist shop I've always used for my BMW's. I'll be doing a bit of the maintenance myself too. The car isn't smothered in electrical optional extras so fingers crossed there's less of the annoying things to go wrong (There you go, I've just cursed it).

Check MOT online first, cos you can always come back to us here if there are any advisories outstanding that you may not know how costly they could be to put right. Always a good bargaining point that

Either the main govt. site or the HPI sites show this. I'm assuming you'll do HPI check before heading all the way up North

My 2009 335i is on 82k miles and only issues have been the injectors so these can do high miles. However, a very helpful fella I know from the forums kindly showed me his bill (luckily most paid under warranty) for new turbos and a few other things and it was North of £2,500.

That's why I was saying earlier, it's really key to see what work the car's had done, it may have had new turbos for example.

I think these are factors which will decide how much you need to put away pcm, plus it depends on the mileage you's doing.
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      03-28-2016, 08:13 AM   #21
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Like I say, I'm not budgeting £50 a month; only if there's a sudden large bill, having some money aside will just ease the pain that month and therefore - in my opinion - negate the need for warranty. At the end of the day it's a £10k car, if the worst comes to the worst I just cut my losses. If it were a £30k+ car, of course I'd get warranty.

I'm more than happy to put reconditioned parts in the car.

id be paying £50-100 a month on warranty, that may not even pay out when needed - and I won't get any of that back. At least this way; best case scenario I have a pot of cash for extra tuning of the beast or putinto another car.

I generally find on high miler cars one's attitude changes slightly. I had a Volvo 850R which was on 216000 miles. I tuned the hell out of it, replaced all hoses etc. And put in second hand parts of anything that looks like it was going to give up. The car was amongst the fastest (in a way that no-one expected), most reliable things I've ever owned.

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You'll need to double it, £50 per month won't sort many issues out should things go wrong. Plus add general pre-emptive maintenance such as a gear box oil change, cooling system etc.

I've spent about £1500 per year on odd issues etc each year I owned my 330i, a car which is considered more reliable due to not having turbos.
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Only thing that's coming up on a couple of the mots on govt. which is a bit wierd is "Under-trays fitted obscuring some underside components
Engine covers fitted obscuring some components in the engine bay"

But I guess that's just the engine covers.

Other than that, the last one said a rear brake pipe was a little corroded.

I did run an AA hpi but it doesn't seem to have any mot data.

I asked about the turbos and they haven't been done. I was looking to upgrade those or go single turbo if the car turns out good.

I'll get the name of the garage again in Newbury.

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Check MOT online first, cos you can always come back to us here if there are any advisories outstanding that you may not know how costly they could be to put right. Always a good bargaining point that

Either the main govt. site or the HPI sites show this. I'm assuming you'll do HPI check before heading all the way up North

My 2009 335i is on 82k miles and only issues have been the injectors so these can do high miles. However, a very helpful fella I know from the forums kindly showed me his bill (luckily most paid under warranty) for new turbos and a few other things and it was North of £2,500.

That's why I was saying earlier, it's really key to see what work the car's had done, it may have had new turbos for example.

I think these are factors which will decide how much you need to put away pcm, plus it depends on the mileage you's doing.
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