[DocWeatherington]

Mercedes-AMG E43, This should be interesting it's not a V8 but hmm.. Tons of Potential...Depending upon price might upset a few cars in the class.

Engine Displacement: V6 Biturbo 2996 cc

Output: 396 hp at 6100 rpm

Peak torque: 384 lb-ft at 2500-5000 rpm

Curb Weight: 4,145 lbs

Acceleration 0-60 mph: 4.5 s

Top speed: 155 mph (electronically limited)

Noted Features:

Characteristics at the tap of a finger: AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
Rear-biased and agile: AMG Performance 4MATIC
Short shift times and high efficiency: the 9G-TRONIC
More agility: AMG AIRMATIC Adaptive Sport Suspension

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/10/2...-e43-new-york/















Not the correct review but a start

[kprocivic]

thats the new fakey amg right?

[Ghosn]

Poor man's C63

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by kprocivic

thats the new fakey amg right?

I would call it AMG lite... Tuned by AMG but not full on rip your face off 600Hp

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Ghosn

Poor man's C63

The poor mans C63 is the C450amg aka now the C43... C63 lite.. lol but AWD

[okusa]

Entry level AMG?

[mkoesel]

Hmm, so they are boosting the power of the 3.0L V6 even higher now? Can't be long before all AMG *43 models make the same power as this one.

Originally Posted by kprocivic

thats the new fakey amg right?

Yes.

[Law]

Originally Posted by okusa

Entry level AMG?

Basically these AMG "43" models are Merc's version of BMW's 'M Performance Automobiles' [MPA]s (i.e., M235i, M760Li, etc.).

Except for Mercedes-Benz, they started out as what they call 'AMG Sport' models. The official name for the C450 is Mercedes-Benz C450 AMG, whereas the C63 is the Mercedes-AMG C63.
But Mercedes is planning on streamlining the 'AMG Sport' models into the AMG brand completely.
So officially, the 'AMG Sport' models will thereafter be sold as Mercedes-AMG cars (i.e., Mercedes-AMG C43)

If you wanna talk about brand dilution, this is it.

[Mbbrewer]

Gorgeous car. Very classy.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Hmm, so they are boosting the power of the 3.0L V6 even higher now? Can't be long before all AMG *43 models make the same power as this one.



Yes.

I wonder how much power could be gotten out of this motor... I am assuming 425hp with a tune wouldn't be out of reach, which in a C43 with AWD might not be a bad thing.

[1MOREMOD]

Dat curb weight doh

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Dat curb weight doh

Its a piggy but.. its not bad considering all the stuff that goes into AWD/Turbo cars. The real question will be how much the E63Amg S will be and if its lighter or heavier. Also I wonder if that curb weight included tons of standard kit including the heavy glass roof, or if the E63Amg will go on a diet.

[gtron]

I like some of it but will it have the fake exhaust tips and not built by Hans himself like the C43?

[pikkagtr]

All specs looked good till I got to 4145 lbs .....with options and drive that thing is over 4400 lbs...eeeek
2016 f150 full size ecoboost is around 4250 lbs

[TheBingoBalls]

Mercedes is just killing it. Unfortunately for BMW, the new C-Class and E-Class has aged the 3er and 5er in comparison and we're still a few years away from the GXX 3er and 5er.

Mercedes is serious with one-size-fit-all theme, but I look at the C and E-Class and I can see the design lasting at least two generations with minimal changes. I can't say the same with the 3er and 5er. We all know how conservative BMW is with designs so based on that, if they take the current models and do minor updates, the outlook is looking bleak. I hope I'm wrong.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Mercedes is just killing it. Unfortunately for BMW, the new C-Class and E-Class has aged the 3er and 5er in comparison and we're still a few years away from the GXX 3er and 5er.

Actually the G30 5 Series is just months away. Production starts in November. And these are going to be on CLAR like the G12, so some measure of CF is to be expected. No weight miracle is likely, but BMW will certainly be advancing the state of the art.

It's an ever present game of tug-o-war. Mercedes has the hotness right now, BMW will have their time soon.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

I wonder how much power could be gotten out of this motor... I am assuming 425hp with a tune wouldn't be out of reach, which in a C43 with AWD might not be a bad thing.

Over 500hp seems in reach, in fact. But, with almost 400hp and no V8-powered E550 in the range, they will likely be pricing this nearer the V8 competitors (550i, S6) than a V6 model would have been in the past.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Over 500hp seems in reach, in fact. But, with almost 400hp and no V8-powered E550 in the range, they will likely be pricing this nearer the V8 competitors (550i, S6) than a V6 model would have been in the past.

Agree on both fronts.

But I think MB will underprice the 550i/S6.. Reason being is I think this is going to be the only V6 offering in NA. I think the NA lineup will be this V6 as tuned, the two turbo 4s (Gas & Diesel) then the plug in hybrid. Then most likely a E63 and or just solely the E63s.

If you can have two twin turbo v8s both with 450hp vs. a 400HP six( I am a whore and would buy the V8s).. they would be wise to undercut the competition then have the E63 just above then the E63s higher.

That ugly donkey in the room is the damn sexy but still ugly Cadillac CTSv and CTSv Sport with 640 Hp for 85K

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Actually the G30 5 Series is just months away. Production starts in November. And these are going to be on CLAR like the G12, so some measure of CF is to be expected. No weight miracle is likely, but BMW will certainly be advancing the state of the art.

It's an ever present game of tug-o-war. Mercedes has the hotness right now, BMW will have their time soon.

Nice to know. Thought we were still at least a year out, didn't know production was going to start this year.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Its a piggy but.. its not bad considering all the stuff that goes into AWD/Turbo cars. The real question will be how much the E63Amg S will be and if its lighter or heavier. Also I wonder if that curb weight included tons of standard kit including the heavy glass roof, or if the E63Amg will go on a diet.

& I thought my Speed6 was a pig at around 3,600 lbs. Guess all AWD turbo cars don't need to weigh 4k+

I bet this E43 really wakes up with a tune. Exterior styling is a bit bland. Curious to see what the price will be.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

& I thought my Speed6 was a pig at around 3,600 lbs. Guess all AWD turbo cars don't need to weigh 4k+

I bet this E43 really wakes up with a tune. Exterior styling is a bit bland. Curious to see what the price will be.

The Brabus tune for the C450 is nasty, cannot imagine this will be any less.

[danniexi]

FAkeMG. Meh. excited to see what the full 63 has to offer.

that being said, omg that interior. i want to make love to each and every panel on that car. it is absolutely gorgeous on the inside.