435i GC M Sport is really low...

visualguy · 10-10-2015, 11:49 PM

I'm surprised by how low the front is on my new 2016 435i GC M Sport.

It's the same height as my Porsche Cayman GTS with PASM.

Seems too low for a car that isn't a sports car.

Is it lower than the 335i/340i with M Sport? Is scraping a problem? It's certainly something that I have to deal with on my Cayman, and didn't expect the 435i to pose the same challenge...

visualguy · 10-11-2015, 12:14 AM

Looks like it is indeed lower than the 335i/340i M Sport - seems to be 10mm lower.

By the way, the rubber air deflector in front of the front wheels is only 80mm above ground - same as on my Cayman. Similarly, the front bumper has the same clearance as my Cayman. Really didn't expect this...

HFW003 · 10-11-2015, 03:26 AM

Did you not look at the vehicle prior to purchase?

tboooe · 10-11-2015, 08:56 AM

It may be low but it has never caused any problems for me. Have you run into problems scraping or bottoming out?

Beowulf65 · 10-11-2015, 09:58 AM

It has been designed to allow you to plow your driveway after heavy snowfalls.

Blubaron79 · 10-11-2015, 10:07 AM

I now live in Pittsburgh land of odd hills. I have a front lip and I have yet to scrape on anything. Knock on wood. Maybe it's because I have xdrive height?

Beowulf65 · 10-11-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I now live in Pittsburgh land of odd hills. I have a front lip and I have yet to scrape on anything. Knock on wood. Maybe it's because I have xdrive height?

I believe that xDrive does not lower the suspension by 10mm.

Blubaron79 · 10-11-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf65

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I now live in Pittsburgh land of odd hills. I have a front lip and I have yet to scrape on anything. Knock on wood. Maybe it's because I have xdrive height?

I believe that xDrive does not lower the suspension by 10mm.

I meant it increases it by 10mm

sandwi54 · 10-11-2015, 12:36 PM

Xdrive is 10mm higher than base (non-xdrive) suspension, and a God-almighty 20mm higher than 704 suspension.

Beowulf65 · 10-11-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sandwi54

Xdrive is 10mm higher than base (non-xdrive) suspension, and a God-almighty 20mm higher than 704 suspension.

Ah so...thank goodness: otherwise it would be impossible to drive in heavy snow up north.

Blubaron79 · 10-11-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sandwi54

Xdrive is 10mm higher than base (non-xdrive) suspension, and a God-almighty 20mm higher than 704 suspension.

I think it still looks pretty low.

visualguy · 10-11-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HFW003

Did you not look at the vehicle prior to purchase?

I didn't look at the height carefully - didn't expect that to be an issue. Thought it would be the same as an Audi S5. Turns out it's much lower...

visualguy · 10-11-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

It may be low but it has never caused any problems for me. Have you run into problems scraping or bottoming out?

Not yet, but I put only 500 miles on it so far, and that was mostly on the highway...

RM7 · 10-11-2015, 05:13 PM

If people would stop ramming into parking curbs with their tires like a 4x4 and stop before them...

Blubaron79 · 10-11-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

If people would stop ramming into parking curbs with their tires like a 4x4 and stop before them...

Word. It's not that hard to judge

tboooe · 10-11-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

If people would stop ramming into parking curbs with their tires like a 4x4 and stop before them...

HA HA! I am so paranoid about hitting those stupid things that I usually park about 1-2ft away. I have to get out of the car to make sure I am not too far away. Sometimes I have to creep forward a bit because the rear of my car is sticking out too much. I look like a total rookie but its worth it! No scraps ever on any of my lowered cars.

G30 B58 · 10-11-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

If people would stop ramming into parking curbs with their tires like a 4x4 and stop before them...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Word. It's not that hard to judge

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Originally Posted by tboooe

HA HA! I am so paranoid about hitting those stupid things that I usually park about 1-2ft away. I have to get out of the car to make sure I am not too far away. Sometimes I have to creep forward a bit because the rear of my car is sticking out too much. I look like a total rookie but its worth it! No scraps ever on any of my lowered cars.

Doesn't everybody back into parking spaces? Use your camera(s) to your advantage.

rolltidef32 · 10-11-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I think it still looks pretty low.

First time I'm seeing your car; damn that looks really good. Side skirts, wheels, front lip, and the tint. Even like the silver.

Really a perfect set up there.

rolltidef32 · 10-11-2015, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

HA HA! I am so paranoid about hitting those stupid things that I usually park about 1-2ft away. I have to get out of the car to make sure I am not too far away. Sometimes I have to creep forward a bit because the rear of my car is sticking out too much. I look like a total rookie but its worth it! No scraps ever on any of my lowered cars.

Funny, I do the same thing all the time, even with the sensors.

My car just looks so damn good, especially when clean. If I ram into something, I'll be beyond upset with myself.

Having to get out, then pull forward a bit is just fine with me at times. Hard to know where the car ends.

st3v · 10-12-2015, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by visualguy

I'm surprised by how low the front is on my new 2016 435i GC M Sport.

It's the same height as my Porsche Cayman GTS with PASM.

Seems too low for a car that isn't a sports car.

Is it lower than the 335i/340i with M Sport? Is scraping a problem? It's certainly something that I have to deal with on my Cayman, and didn't expect the 435i to pose the same challenge...

A BMW with an "M Sport" package isn't a sports car?

RM7 · 10-12-2015, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by st3v

A BMW with an "M Sport" package isn't a sports car?

No. A 2 door coupe firmly established in the genre of driving engagement is, like a miata, Z3, etc. A 2 door based on a passenger 4-door car or a "blown" version of a 4 door sedan kinda is, like the M3 and M4, but just because it's a BMW or because it has the "sports" package is no a qualifier for a sports-car. A sports-car is one that is for the engagement of the driver and enjoyment of the drive. A 328 M-sport is not this, it's a upscale sedan and may have some "sporty" elements, but it's nothing like a sports-car. My last car was a sports-car, this 428 is nice and more practical, but it's no sports-car.

DS_BMW · 10-12-2015, 02:39 AM

Any pics of it? You have adaptive suspension?

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