[BavariaExclusive]

I'm really confused to what car to get next as my lease ends in June '15. I want to fall into the 4 series family specifically M4 or 435xi. Of course, there is a huge difference in performance between the two. Not sure if that is the only reason I'll be paying almost $300-400/month extra?

[Mike_L]

The biggest question is if you need AWD. If you do, get the 435xi. If not, I can't think of a good reason not to get the M4. Loaded vs loaded the price difference is about $15k MSRP. Standard 3/4 BMW lease is 61% residual, so you'd be paying about $9k of that over 3 years. Thats like $250 more a month.

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by Mike_L

The biggest question is if you need AWD. If you do, get the 435xi. If not, I can't think of a good reason not to get the M4. Loaded vs loaded the price difference is about $15k MSRP. Standard 3/4 BMW lease is 61% residual, so you'd be paying about $9k of that over 3 years. Thats like $250 more a month.

I think the rear wheel drive car is more fun. Why awd? There are so many videos showing drifting it makes me want to go racing. For the price difference you can get into an M4 but loaded they are close to $80000.
After my lease is up on my 2015 435i I am really tempted to get the M4 but my wife will be nervous every time I leave the house.
Truly an awesome car.

[fecurtis]

Since you're in NJ, if you go with the M4, set some cash aside for winter rubber for the colder months.

[stormlv]

TBH, when I first ordered my car, had the M4 been available, I'd have gone for the M4.
Now...I'm not so sure.

The M4 is a great car - no arguing there.
But for me, the problem is that having the M4 as a DD would just seem as a wasted potential.
I think my average commute speed is somewhere around 40-50kph (25-30 mph).
I don't even have that many places where I would be able to legally use launch control to go from 0-100kph (62mph)

The one that I have now, I think suits my lifestyle really well.
I still have plenty of power and lots of torque when I need it to and can have the occasional fun in the roundabouts.
The AWD is quite nice as well, especially in the wet.

That said, one could argue that in these circumstances I don't even need a 313hp car
Might was well get a Peugeot
So, I don't think that M4 vs 435xi should be a "rational" choice either...

Just get what you think will make you happier.
If money is not the issue & you do have where to play with it, then go for the M4!

[TriniJots]

Just remember to factor in the extra money in gas, insurance and tires....

I had a very hard time deciding between the two, but ended up going with the 435

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by TriniJots

Just remember to factor in the extra money in gas, insurance and tires....

I had a very hard time deciding between the two, but ended up going with the 435

You will rarely put your foot to the floor anyway. The acceleration is incredible and exciting. If you need more power absolutely add the MPPk for another 30 horses.

[rolltidef32]

Unless you're going to track it, getting an ///M of any kind is just about ego, and for that, BMW will gladly sell you one. Tracking a leased car is particularly crazy.

The track means dedicated tires too, which is another cost.

Sounds like you live urban like I do. In order to even open up my car with the baby engine, I have to make a special weekend trip to the Georgia mountains and go play running with the motorcycles. Not hardly worth the extra cost to waste all that power. The M4 would also likely kill me on the switchbacks up there too!

[pr0gi]

just because you consider the Xdrive and not the rwd 435 I would say go with the 435xi

[tboooe]

Obviously the OP should get whatever makes him/her happy regardless if it makes sense or not. This situation reminds of me a saying I am always using on myself, "Just because you can afford it, should you." I was in the same boat a few months ago. I lusted after the M4/M3 and could have afforded it but in the end I realized I wouldnt have used all that extra power. For me, the 428i GC had everything I needed and I would use it to its fullest which to me is far more satisfying than not being able to unleash the M3/M4.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by BavariaExclusive

I'm really confused to what car to get next as my lease ends in June '15. I want to fall into the 4 series family specifically M4 or 435xi. Of course, there is a huge difference in performance between the two. Not sure if that is the only reason I'll be paying almost $300-400/month extra?

The other thing to think about is, wherever you are in Jersey, can you really, on a regular basis, open the car up enough to appreciate the capability of the M? If you live in a traffic choked area of the state, you have to consider whether it's worth it.

[maa335iF30]

Originally Posted by BavariaExclusive

I'm really confused to what car to get next as my lease ends in June '15. I want to fall into the 4 series family specifically M4 or 435xi. Of course, there is a huge difference in performance between the two. Not sure if that is the only reason I'll be paying almost $300-400/month extra?

For months I was pondering a similar question M3 or 335i. I recently moved from Los Angeles to Charlotte and then immediately decided on the 335i. There is no way I could enjoy the capabilities of the M3 in this environment. I can't even let my 335 loose. Would've been a different story in the CA canyons. And overall, the car culture in LA is very different from Charlotte.

It's a very individual choice with many personal factors. How much are you willing to spend for the M badge and the luxury of having all that power under the hood (even if you rarely use it).

[Fast400]

I have the 435ix with a AC Schnitzer tune. If your not racing every day, this is the better deal, cost wise. With a tune it's plenty fast...4.6 0-60 fast!!!. So yes an M4 will beat it, but also will get stuck in the snow much quicker.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by BavariaExclusive

I'm really confused to what car to get next as my lease ends in June '15. I want to fall into the 4 series family specifically M4 or 435xi. Of course, there is a huge difference in performance between the two. Not sure if that is the only reason I'll be paying almost $300-400/month extra?

M4 will be a lot more fun overall. That said, if it's a DD, I would really consider the 435. I commute between manhattan and north jersey and there are days when I don't break 40mph coming back into the city. I go in early in the morning so it's fine then, but not so much that I wish I had an ///M. I'm getting the Dinan tune for my N20 in March and I'm sure even that will be overkill. Even if it's just a DD, you could do worse than an M4 I suppose. Just remember to save some $$ for winter shoes.

If it's going to be used for track events and weekend getaways, in addition to daily duties, I say M4. You could really add some great mods to the 435 to get it close to the M4, but with the M4, you're already there, and you're paying that extra cost over the course of the lease rather than for add on parts all at once.

[bahasad]

Originally Posted by BavariaExclusive

I'm really confused to what car to get next as my lease ends in June '15. I want to fall into the 4 series family specifically M4 or 435xi. Of course, there is a huge difference in performance between the two. Not sure if that is the only reason I'll be paying almost $300-400/month extra?

How is the monthly payment delta between them 300-400 extra? My understanding from just playing around with the website is maybe 50-150 dollars difference between a low/medium/highly optioned 435XI/M4.

I think the 435I makes a good case for itself when it is lightly or medium optioned compared to an M4 (i.e. around 55000-57000). Anymore, and the M4 is a better value.

The F80 M3/4 is not like the old M3 where the power (and torque) delta between the E9x M3 and 335I was minimal, especially because the E9x 335I could be modded. Now there is a greater difference that is felt throughout the power band.

Not to mention the M3/M4 have overall better hardware than the 335I/435I. From some of the reviews, the benefits of a M3/M4 are not only felt on the track.

[macagain]

These are such different cars. You'll have to drive both and see for yourself which one appeals to you and your wallet more.

I have a 435xi and love it most of the time. The only times I don't love it is when I return from visiting a buddy who has an M4 and I get to drive it for a few days. After driving the M4, my 435 sucks! It was especially bad after I spent a week with him picking up the M4 in Munich and driving around Europe.

The M4 is such an incredible car. Blindfold you, put you in it, drive it and you'll believe it if I told you it was a Ferrari or some other supercar. All the parts look similar, but the finish and detail is so much better. It drives like a completely different car. If you're old enough, think Danny DeVito and Schwarzeneggar as Twins!

This is my buddy's 4th M3/4, and I've driven all of them. I'm blown away by how incredible this one is; it blows away the the past models in every way.

I so wish I can get an M4. But I live in Colorado and am in the mountains a lot in winter with a lot of snowy and snow packed roads. The awd is, in the end, why I have the 435xi instead.

[eric@helix]

The driving experience between the M4 and the 435xi is night and day. I've got the solution. Get the M4 for nice days, track days and weekends, and get an older AWD car for commuting--maybe a 1.8t A4 or something.

[TriniJots]

Originally Posted by Damon44

You will rarely put your foot to the floor anyway. The acceleration is incredible and exciting. If you need more power absolutely add the MPPk for another 30 horses.

I see you have the MPPK + the Dinan, did you get the MPPK before adding the Dinan?

If so, how was the power change from stock?

I'm coming from a 335is and while I do love my new 435i, I do miss the crazy responsiveness, quickness, speed and of course the exhaust of the 335is.
I'm planning to get the Performance Exhaust and the MPPK in hopes that it comes close to the power/feeling the 335is had.

[ATLBlue]

Originally Posted by eric@h

The driving experience between the M4 and the 435xi is night and day. I've got the solution. Get the M4 for nice days, track days and weekends, and get an older AWD car for commuting--maybe a 1.8t A4 or something.

...or get a 435xi for a comfortable commute and buy an E46 M3 for the track

[Shahdog]

Originally Posted by Mike_L

The biggest question is if you need AWD. If you do, get the 435xi. If not, I can't think of a good reason not to get the M4. Loaded vs loaded the price difference is about $15k MSRP. Standard 3/4 BMW lease is 61% residual, so you'd be paying about $9k of that over 3 years. Thats like $250 more a month.

Insurance bump as well

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by TriniJots

I see you have the MPPK + the Dinan, did you get the MPPK before adding the Dinan?

If so, how was the power change from stock?

I'm coming from a 335is and while I do love my new 435i, I do miss the crazy responsiveness, quickness, speed and of course the exhaust of the 335is.
I'm planning to get the Performance Exhaust and the MPPK in hopes that it comes close to the power/feeling the 335is had.

Yes I had the MPPk installed at the port and then about a month later added the Dinan stage 1 piggyback.
Sensational effect. Really throws me back in the seat the few times I get to floor the pedal.
Merging onto the highway the rpms get up to 5000 and it is immediately over 105mph.
Noticeable difference from my wife's car which is a 2015 335i with just the MPPk
The extra torque supposedly to 430 throws the car forward and if you are in the right gear best acceleration is from 50-100.
You can feel the difference even with MPPk which I think should be standard on every N55. They have deliberately detained the N55 for gas mileage. How dumb!
I just added Dinan performance exhaust too and added more horses apparently?
Does the bmw MPE add power or just sound?

[BavarianFanatic]

I prefer vanilla.