[propel1er]

According to Halsifer's cheat sheet, High Beam Assistant is needed in order to code Active High Beam Assitant/Anti-dazzle. Is the HBA option strictly necessary, or is getting the special ConnectedDrive branded camera all that is necessary?
I ask because I am ordering a 428i in Canada and in order to get HBA, one needs to order $6300 worth of packages. However, ordering Active Cruise Control as a standalone option appears to give you the same camera (the one that says ConnectedDrive) that you'd get when ordering HBA. My dealer doesn't think that it's possible to special order HBA on it's own, so I thought ordering the Active Cruise might allow me to code Anti-dazzle and Variable Light Distribution without having to order those packages.

[75fusca]

Your dealer should be checking rather than "thinking"..... I got to cherry pick certain options as part of my negotiation process and my dealer would be checking with BMW to see if the options (origibally part of other packages) where available as stand alone. Good luck!

[propel1er]

That's good to know. My dealer's reasoning was that because the HBA was already part of another package, it could not be special ordered alone. Thanks.

[pikcachu]

in the US HBA is a $250 dollar option

[Halsifer]

It's an option. You should be able to order it without those packages. In fact, I can even option it as an independent feature on a stripped 328i for $250. Your dealer should get their facts straight.

[pikcachu]

well i think the issue is that they are in Canada... maybe options are different?

[75fusca]

In Canada options have the same coding but the packages they are part of, that fiffers. Nonetheless, it is possible to get them as an individual item.

[pikcachu]

ya what i meant is what options are available standalone are different even though the option code is the same anywhere in the world

[Tim@codemybimmer]

From my understanding, to have Variable Light Distribution, you'll need the adaptive headlights. I'm sure the High Beam Assistant will work with just the standard bi-xenons that come with the F32.

[propel1er]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

From my understanding, to have Variable Light Distribution, you'll need the adaptive headlights. I'm sure the High Beam Assistant will work with just the standard bi-xenons that come with the F32.

Yes, I'll be taking the Active LED Headlamps option. I'm just trying to figure out how to get full functionality (as in Europe) with them.

[propel1er]

Originally Posted by 75fusca

In Canada options have the same coding but the packages they are part of, that fiffers. Nonetheless, it is possible to get them as an individual item.

I spoke to my CA about ordering HBA alone, along with a few other items that would normally come in packages. Apparently, a request has to be submitted to BMW Canada, which they can either approve or deny. Does this sound right?

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by propel1er

I spoke to my CA about ordering HBA alone, along with a few other items that would normally come in packages. Apparently, a request has to be submitted to BMW Canada, which they can either approve or deny. Does this sound right?

Sounds right. Especially when in the pricing guide they also state it's an extra $500 to "special" order the car.

In terms of the HBA, it seems that it shares the same camera (it appears, not sure) with the Speed Limit Info ($350). Only reason I say that is because it seems people with HBA can enable the Speed Limit Info somewhat.

[propel1er]

BMW Canada responded to my CA's inquiry saying that "the factory" would not allow them to break up options that are part of packages.

[75fusca]

My understanding is that "packages" are defined by countries (BMW Canada), the factory can do pretty much any type of combination... My 320i base/no line has heated steering and lumbar support that are definetely part of other packages. I even got Liquid Blue metallic colour, which is only available on the hybrid.... On the other hand, when I ordered heated seats, BMW Canada said I couldn't have rear heated seats ("Not possible") when it's an option in the US model. Go figure, the marketing "geniuses" always spoiling the party!

[propel1er]

Right, I had figured that this was simply the BMW Canada rep displacing blame to BMW itself. But if BMW Canada is saying "no," then what more can I do? To give it one more try, I asked my CA to inquire about ordering HBA as my only special order option. I'm hoping they'll be more receptive to this since I'm not asking for any other items that are within packages.

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Well as I've mentioned before, if they won't, try adding Speed Limit Info and then see if you can code HBA with the Speed Limit Info KAFAS Camera. It may or may not work but its around $250-350 for the option anyhow.

[pikcachu]

problem is for HBA you get a different left lever with 2 buttons instead of 1... you get BC button and HBA button

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

problem is for HBA you get a different left lever with 2 buttons instead of 1... you get BC button and HBA button

I haven't looked into it fully, but with the E-Series cars, HBA is automatically on if you switch on the High Beams when the lights are on Automatic. Turning off HBA would be in the iDrive rather than the turn signal stalk.

In F-Series cars, I believe it should just be finding the right parameter that allows the HBA checkbox in the iDrive like how one could enable the DRL checkbox... not that anyone would want to do that.

In theory, if you were to code in HBA, it is permanently ON when you turn on your High Beams.

The power of E-Sys!

[propel1er]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

Well as I've mentioned before, if they won't, try adding Speed Limit Info and then see if you can code HBA with the Speed Limit Info KAFAS Camera. It may or may not work but its around $250-350 for the option anyhow.

Unfortunately, taking Speed Limit Info requires taking the Premium package on the 4 series (according the the configurator, anyways). This doesn't really make sense though, since the extended instrument cluster where the speed info appears is standard equipment.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

I haven't looked into it fully, but with the E-Series cars, HBA is automatically on if you switch on the High Beams when the lights are on Automatic. Turning off HBA would be in the iDrive rather than the turn signal stalk.

In F-Series cars, I believe it should just be finding the right parameter that allows the HBA checkbox in the iDrive like how one could enable the DRL checkbox... not that anyone would want to do that.

In theory, if you were to code in HBA, it is permanently ON when you turn on your High Beams.

The power of E-Sys!

in the F you need to push the button everytime to activate ... similar to activating cruise control...

Also coding automatic HBA is not available anymore on the F30 or F22.. i think only the F10 allows it...(FRM 3050 FLA_AUTO_AKTIV)

[Halsifer]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

Well as I've mentioned before, if they won't, try adding Speed Limit Info and then see if you can code HBA with the Speed Limit Info KAFAS Camera. It may or may not work but its around $250-350 for the option anyhow.

Originally Posted by Timbits93

I haven't looked into it fully, but with the E-Series cars, HBA is automatically on if you switch on the High Beams when the lights are on Automatic. Turning off HBA would be in the iDrive rather than the turn signal stalk.

In F-Series cars, I believe it should just be finding the right parameter that allows the HBA checkbox in the iDrive like how one could enable the DRL checkbox... not that anyone would want to do that.

In theory, if you were to code in HBA, it is permanently ON when you turn on your High Beams.

The power of E-Sys!

You need the Auto High Beams physical button to turn it on in F3x. Only F10s allow you to code in HBA if you have the KAFAS camera without the Auto High Beams Optioned in your vehicle since they have FLA_AUTO_AKTIV. F30s do not have this and this was confirmed a while back. So no, it's not possible unfortunately.

[propel1er]

Originally Posted by Halsifer

You need the Auto High Beams physical button to turn it on in F3x. Only F10s allow you to code in HBA if you have the KAFAS camera without the Auto High Beams Optioned in your vehicle since they have FLA_AUTO_AKTIV. F30s do not have this and this was confirmed a while back. So no, it's not possible unfortunately.

Well that answers my original question - thanks. Hopefully I can get the HBA.