MPPK Ftw

bmwauug · 08-30-2014, 12:02 PM

Just got it installed.

Blubaron79 · 08-30-2014, 01:40 PM

Word. Would own a x35 without it.

bmwauug · 08-30-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Word. Would own a x35 without it.

- after lots of debate, the decals are on and I like them! Subtle...

Engelb · 08-30-2014, 04:27 PM

Can you feel the difference right away? Worth the money?

bmwauug · 08-30-2014, 04:43 PM

100%. Even better with the 8 speed (I had on my e90). Best way to describe it is like driving in sport mode. It's not crazy, but still noticeable.

Must have IMO.

Falafel Combo · 08-31-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwauug

100%. Even better with the 8 speed (I had on my e90). Best way to describe it is like driving in sport mode. It's not crazy, but still noticeable.

Must have IMO.

So you're sayng if i make a conscious effort every time i turn on my non-MPPK 335i, and put it in sport mode ... I can save myself the $1000 and the trip to the dealer? Serious minds inquire.

bmwauug · 08-31-2014, 10:05 AM

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So you're sayng if i make a conscious effort every time i turn on my non-MPPK 335i, and put it in sport mode ... I can save myself the $1000 and the trip to the dealer? Serious minds inquire.

The part you're missing is how sport feels with mppk. And throttle response. And the overdrive boost. But sure, save your money. But by that line of reasoning get a 328

bmwauug · 08-31-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alpinweiss 335i

So you're sayng if i make a conscious effort every time i turn on my non-MPPK 335i, and put it in sport mode ... I can save myself the $1000 and the trip to the dealer? Serious minds inquire.

I also forgot the decals.

ft1330 · 08-31-2014, 11:03 AM

Congrats and I'm glad you're happy but when you get down to the numbers, the MPPK is a very modest bump in power that the majority of owners have admitted wasn't making a difference in the power department. Maybe the feel and the sound but not the power.

bmwauug · 08-31-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ft1330

Congrats and I'm glad you're happy but when you get down to the numbers, the MPPK is a very modest bump in power that the majority of owners have admitted wasn't making a difference in the power department. Maybe the feel and the sound but not the power.

Well. I had it with my e90 (perf edition) and could notice a difference without it (e.g., turbo lag), hence I was more inclined. But of course that's why we all mod etc. based on personal preferences (or buy what we buy). Worth it for me.

Falafel Combo · 08-31-2014, 07:35 PM

If I get ZERO power increase, but a sharper throttle and improved driving dynamics across the modes ... it would be more than worth my money. A power bump would just be icing for me.

Stevx · 08-31-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ft1330

Congrats and I'm glad you're happy but when you get down to the numbers, the MPPK is a very modest bump in power that the majority of owners have admitted wasn't making a difference in the power department. Maybe the feel and the sound but not the power.

Yep. I netted no increase in peak numbers but about 7 horse/torque from 4300-6300 rpm. Hardly noticeable. Throttle response and burble are definitely noticeable though.

Vegetable · 08-31-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevx

Yep. I netted no increase in peak numbers but about 7 horse/torque from 4300-6300 rpm. Hardly noticeable. Throttle response and burble are definitely noticeable though.

Do you have a post 2013 F3X? After getting the MPPK on my 435i, acceleration has definitely improved (not just better throttle response and burble sounds).

Stevx · 08-31-2014, 09:09 PM

Nope. 2013. 6 speed manual.

bmwauug · 08-31-2014, 09:10 PM

I would be pissed if I couldn't tell. Very noticeable, more responsive and nice exhaust note.

Vegetable · 08-31-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevx

Nope. 2013. 6 speed manual.

So did you get the version that promised 20Hp or 35?

Vegetable · 08-31-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwauug

I would be pissed if I couldn't tell. Very noticeable, more responsive and nice exhaust note.

I not only would be pissed, I would get my money back. Fck paying $1600 (after tax) for MPPK and not feeling anything. Luckily I noticed a significant enough improvement.. I'm happy, but would still like 50 more HP

Stevx · 08-31-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevx

Nope. 2013. 6 speed manual.

So did you get the version that promised 20Hp or 35?

My version was for a claimed 20 horse, 17 torque increase. I didn't expect to be blown away by the power increase. I posted my before/after dyno graph in another thread if you're curious.

Vegetable · 08-31-2014, 09:34 PM

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My version was for a claimed 20 horse, 17 torque increase. I didn't expect to be blown away by the power increase. I posted my before/after dyno graph in another thread if you're curious.

I remember that thread. Did you ever take it back to the dealer? If so what did they say?

Stevx · 08-31-2014, 09:41 PM

Yes. I updated the thread a couple days ago. Basically, the dealer confirmed the mppk was installed and submitted my concern to BMW. BMW offered to remove the kit and refund the purchase price. I went back to the dyno to see if anything changed and the car was no longer losing power and instead made about 7 horse/torque.

BEAR-AvHistory · 09-01-2014, 08:14 AM

Have the 35 horse version + the MPE. In Canada they advertise the complete package ar 342 brake horsepower. Since BMW plays games with its ratings have no idea what it really is till an actual dyno run.

I hate butt dynos but the feels a lot like my old 335is. The JB4 is more cost effective & would recommend it or cobb, best yet JB4+COBB like my 335is if more power is required.

The MPPK+MPE is a better than pure stock boost, no pun in tended, with a nice sound that should outrun a pure stock car. Will do some runs after break-in.

Lots of spread on the price, had mine installed at the port for $950 with no instillation charge. Got the MPE for $870, no shipping or tax & self installed.

Not really cost effective but a nothing to do package that performs reasonably well. The Cobra will fill in as the "Need for Speed" car replacing the 335is

bwaltz · 09-01-2014, 08:23 AM

I had the MPPK and MPE installed at the first service interval about a month ago. I noticed an immediate difference in throttle response, especially in Sport mode. It is most apparent at highway speeds. For example, a gentle push on the throttle (at 70mph) used to result in a 5-10 mph increase. Now a tap will do the same, and a gentle push will result in 15-20 mph. It is subtle but it is definitely there. At full throttle acceleration up through the gears, the hp now reads around 325-330 on the sport displays. A dyno would tell the real story but I'm not inclined to go there. The exhaust burbles are definitely very pronounced as well, in part I'm sure b/c of the MPE.

On the MPE, with the windows up it is not a big difference vs. stock. Windows down, a whole different story. I was less than thrilled about that until by chance, I happened to be driving on a road that skirts the end of an airport runway at the same time a 737 flew overhead just a few hundred feet above the car. I was amazed how quiet it was. I realized then that the insulation of the car is probably responsible for damping the exhaust sound more than anything.

Gotta say that overall I'm very satisfied with the purchase. The MPPK and MPE did about what I expected and my warranty is intact.

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bmwauug Major 249 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 2023 X5MC Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Almost There iTrader: (0)	100%. Even better with the 8 speed (I had on my e90). Best way to describe it is like driving in sport mode. It's not crazy, but still noticeable. Must have IMO. __________________ 2023 X5MC \| Donington Grey \| Black
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ft1330 Major 231 Rep 1,267 Posts Drives: 2014 335i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: SE PA iTrader: (0)	Congrats and I'm glad you're happy but when you get down to the numbers, the MPPK is a very modest bump in power that the majority of owners have admitted wasn't making a difference in the power department. Maybe the feel and the sound but not the power.
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Falafel Combo Banned 3773 Rep 6,673 Posts Drives: X5 xDrive50i Join Date: May 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (3)	If I get ZERO power increase, but a sharper throttle and improved driving dynamics across the modes ... it would be more than worth my money. A power bump would just be icing for me.
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Stevx Private First Class 42 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cleveland Ohio iTrader: (0)	Nope. 2013. 6 speed manual.
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bmwauug Major 249 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 2023 X5MC Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Almost There iTrader: (0)	I would be pissed if I couldn't tell. Very noticeable, more responsive and nice exhaust note. __________________ 2023 X5MC \| Donington Grey \| Black
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Stevx Private First Class 42 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cleveland Ohio iTrader: (0)	Yes. I updated the thread a couple days ago. Basically, the dealer confirmed the mppk was installed and submitted my concern to BMW. BMW offered to remove the kit and refund the purchase price. I went back to the dyno to see if anything changed and the car was no longer losing power and instead made about 7 horse/torque.
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BEAR-AvHistory 2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convt 3129 Rep 5,264 Posts Drives: 2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convrt Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC - OIB, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 COBRA (FFR rep ... [8.57] 2023 Jeep Wrangler ... [9.50] 2009 Yamaha V-Star [0.00] Cars 2-BMW, 2-FORD, ... [0.00] 2023 Ford Expeditio ... [0.00] 2020 Z4 M40i [10.00] 2022 BMW M4C [7.25] 1998 FORD Ranger 4X4 [0.00]	Have the 35 horse version + the MPE. In Canada they advertise the complete package ar 342 brake horsepower. Since BMW plays games with its ratings have no idea what it really is till an actual dyno run. I hate butt dynos but the feels a lot like my old 335is. The JB4 is more cost effective & would recommend it or cobb, best yet JB4+COBB like my 335is if more power is required. The MPPK+MPE is a better than pure stock boost, no pun in tended, with a nice sound that should outrun a pure stock car. Will do some runs after break-in. Lots of spread on the price, had mine installed at the port for $950 with no instillation charge. Got the MPE for $870, no shipping or tax & self installed. Not really cost effective but a nothing to do package that performs reasonably well. The Cobra will fill in as the "Need for Speed" car replacing the 335is __________________ Kevin Dravit Gray, Black Leather, Moonlight Roof, Red Calipers 2022 M4C - 2020 Z4 M40i - 2023 FORD Expedition XLT Max 4X4 400BHP - 2009 V-Star - 1998 Ranger 4X4 5MT - 1965 Cobra (R) 5MT - 2023 Jeep Wrangler Sport S 6MT
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bwaltz Enlisted Member 0 Rep 32 Posts Drives: '14 435i MSport 6MT MPPK MPE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	I had the MPPK and MPE installed at the first service interval about a month ago. I noticed an immediate difference in throttle response, especially in Sport mode. It is most apparent at highway speeds. For example, a gentle push on the throttle (at 70mph) used to result in a 5-10 mph increase. Now a tap will do the same, and a gentle push will result in 15-20 mph. It is subtle but it is definitely there. At full throttle acceleration up through the gears, the hp now reads around 325-330 on the sport displays. A dyno would tell the real story but I'm not inclined to go there. The exhaust burbles are definitely very pronounced as well, in part I'm sure b/c of the MPE. On the MPE, with the windows up it is not a big difference vs. stock. Windows down, a whole different story. I was less than thrilled about that until by chance, I happened to be driving on a road that skirts the end of an airport runway at the same time a 737 flew overhead just a few hundred feet above the car. I was amazed how quiet it was. I realized then that the insulation of the car is probably responsible for damping the exhaust sound more than anything. Gotta say that overall I'm very satisfied with the purchase. The MPPK and MPE did about what I expected and my warranty is intact.
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