M Performance Power Kit

[Plano]

So I just got back from my 3rd M4 test drive while I wait for mine to come in, and I'm still loving it. I decided to talk to their performance parts specialist and ask him if he's heard of official pricing on the M-PE or other parts.He didn't have any information yet, but he did happen to mention that they are also going to be released a Performance Power Kit (tune and such) for the M4. Official announcements should be here on September 1 he stated.

[tdizzle]

That's unfortunate. Just another money grab like they did in the F30.

Cheaper and more effective to go with the BMS tune. The one in beta right now it putting down about 40whp more than stock on the dyno. Someone did a run from a roll not sure the speed, but the race wasnt even close, the tuned M4 just walked away.

But I guess the BMW version is good for those who want to drop double the money for the piece of mind that it's a BMW tune. Just annoys me as to why didnt the car just come with it. They'll probably charge $1500 for what is essentially a software update.

[Meanie]

Ooooooooooo! This + BMC. I wonder if it would be possible?

[mic_crispy]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

That's unfortunate. Just another money grab like they did in the F30.

Cheaper and more effective to go with the BMS tune. The one in beta right now it putting down about 40whp more than stock on the dyno. Someone did a run from a roll not sure the speed, but the race wasnt even close, the tuned M4 just walked away.

But I guess the BMW version is good for those who want to drop double the money for the piece of mind that it's a BMW tune. Just annoys me as to why didnt the car just come with it. They'll probably charge $1500 for what is essentially a software update.

True... but depending on the specs, i honestly WOULD probably get the BMW tune for peace of mind (being a first year owner etc).

If BMW announced that i could get 40 more HP for $1500 and retain my warranty, id buy it tomorrow.

[Andrew115]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

That's unfortunate. Just another money grab like they did in the F30.

Cheaper and more effective to go with the BMS tune. The one in beta right now it putting down about 40whp more than stock on the dyno. Someone did a run from a roll not sure the speed, but the race wasnt even close, the tuned M4 just walked away.

But I guess the BMW version is good for those who want to drop double the money for the piece of mind that it's a BMW tune. Just annoys me as to why didnt the car just come with it. They'll probably charge $1500 for what is essentially a software update.

You may be right but it's hard to argue with paying more for piece of mind and factory warranty.

[Roadkiller]

Originally Posted by Plano

So I just got back from my 3rd M4 test drive while I wait for mine to come in, and I'm still loving it. I decided to talk to their performance parts specialist and ask him if he's heard of official pricing on the M-PE or other parts.He didn't have any information yet, but he did happen to mention that they are also going to be released a Performance Power Kit (tune and such) for the M4. Official announcements should be here on September 1 he stated.

OP: M3 and M4 or just the M4?

[Wah]

Have they ever done this for any other M cars? I've never heard of a factory tune that can be applied after the car is made.

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by Wah

Have they ever done this for any other M cars? I've never heard of a factory tune that can be applied after the car is made.

Didn't the M5 have a comp pack or something similar which included a tune? I forget what it included(s).

The argument was pretty back and forth on the F30 forums over a BMS piggy tune that produced slightly more power than BMWs PPK, was half the price, but didn't secure you a warranty. Arguments could be made on both sides, but I dont know of anyone who loaded up the stage 1 tune and removed it for dealer visits that has ever had a warranty issue. (Count myself in that group)

To each their own though, on a $75k car, spending another $1k for a bit of piece of mind isn't anything to berate even if someone else thinks that $1k insurance policy isn't worth it.

[AMPowerJ]

Buying the BMW tune, if it is comparable in power, to an aftermarket tune is a no brainer just for the warranty and no hassle with the dealership.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by Wah

Have they ever done this for any other M cars? I've never heard of a factory tune that can be applied after the car is made.

I think competition packages have been offered in the past, which do include increases in hp/tq but not as substantial as what you would get from the likes of a jb4 or Cobb or Dinan.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

Buying the BMW tune, if it is comparable in power, to an aftermarket tune is a no brainer just for the warranty and no hassle with the dealership.

Very much agreed! The last thing I would want with a first gen s55 would be a chance to get voided out of my BMW warranty.

[haynstyleM2]

Can't wait for this! 500+ hp and tq hopefully!!

[rubber_ducky]

Although they're more hardware than they are software, anybody who is unfamiliar with how porsche prices their power kits would probably faint at the cost. Think 5 figures instead of 3 or 4.

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Andrew115

You may be right but it's hard to argue with paying more for piece of mind and factory warranty.

Exactly - if the power increase is enough to justify the cost - having the peace of mind of a warranty is huge... I've heard several horror stories on this forum of warranty claims being denied on tuned cars by BMW NA even though the dealership itself had not denied the claims (apparently BMW's software as used by BMW NA can detect evidence of tuning - at least in some instances - even though the dealership's service department itself cannot detect evidence of tuning)...

Even though it sounds like most of the times tuned cars are not detected where the owner removes the piggybacked hardware before going in for service - I would not want to chance being one of the "unlucky few."

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

Exactly - if the power increase is enough to justify the cost - having the peace of mind of a warranty is huge... I've heard several horror stories on this forum of warranty claims being denied on tuned cars by BMW NA even though the dealership itself had not denied the claims (apparently BMW's software as used by BMW NA can detect evidence of tuning - at least in some instances - even though the dealership's service department itself cannot detect evidence of tuning)...

Even though it sounds like most of the times tuned cars are not detected where the owner removes the piggybacked hardware before going in for service - I would not want to chance being one of the "unlucky few."

I wouldn't call it a "horror" story when you KNOW you are voiding the warranty by tuning your car and then complain when they deny your claim? You gotta pay to play when you wanna be boy racer. You can't cry to Mother BMW when your fancy tuned toy breaks.

[Tflong24]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

I wouldn't call it a "horror" story when you KNOW you are voiding the warranty by tuning your car and then complain when they deny your claim? You gotta pay to play when you wanna be boy racer. You can't cry to Mother BMW when your fancy tuned toy breaks.

Concur 100%!!!

[Keto]

I would 100% buy a BMW-backed upgrade. I'm slightly nervous about Dinan, and far more nervous about the various JB4, etc tunes.

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

Exactly - if the power increase is enough to justify the cost - having the peace of mind of a warranty is huge... I've heard several horror stories on this forum of warranty claims being denied on tuned cars by BMW NA even though the dealership itself had not denied the claims (apparently BMW's software as used by BMW NA can detect evidence of tuning - at least in some instances - even though the dealership's service department itself cannot detect evidence of tuning)...

Even though it sounds like most of the times tuned cars are not detected where the owner removes the piggybacked hardware before going in for service - I would not want to chance being one of the "unlucky few."

Originally Posted by Keto

I would 100% buy a BMW-backed upgrade. I'm slightly nervous about Dinan, and far more nervous about the various JB4, etc tunes.

Yeah, that JB4 stuff seems like financial suicide should the slightest thing go wrong with your car.

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

Didn't the M5 have a comp pack or something similar which included a tune? I forget what it included(s).

The argument was pretty back and forth on the F30 forums over a BMS piggy tune that produced slightly more power than BMWs PPK, was half the price, but didn't secure you a warranty. Arguments could be made on both sides, but I dont know of anyone who loaded up the stage 1 tune and removed it for dealer visits that has ever had a warranty issue. (Count myself in that group)

To each their own though, on a $75k car, spending another $1k for a bit of piece of mind isn't anything to berate even if someone else thinks that $1k insurance policy isn't worth it.

Yes, the M5 is available with the optional Competition Package. It includes 15 additional horsepower along with revised steering, suspension and different optional wheels.

The Comp Pack must be ordered at time of production and cannot be added afterwards. I will be surprised if BMW comes out with a factory tune that can be installed via dealerships.

[egalley]

They do it for some of their other vehicles like the new X5 35i. Why not for the new M3/4

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

I wouldn't call it a "horror" story when you KNOW you are voiding the warranty by tuning your car and then complain when they deny your claim? You gotta pay to play when you wanna be boy racer. You can't cry to Mother BMW when your fancy tuned toy breaks.

You're saying the flipside of what I'm saying. You have 3 choices: 1) keep you car stock (with full warranty coverage); 2) get a more expensive tune that does have warranty coverage (BMW tune or Dinan tune); or 3) get a less expensive tune which carries a very significant increase in power and performance (JB4) but which does not have warranty coverage.

So - my choice would be #1 or #2, but I would not choose #3, because I do not want to "roll the dice" on having a massive repair bill if BMW denies the warranty claim. I also agree with you on your point - IF you choose option #3, and further assuming something goes wrong, and further assuming that your warranty claim is denied - then yes - you are correct - you cannot then come back and complain that you had to foot the entire repair bill yourself. Stated differently, the peace of mind and financial security of options #1 and #2 are more valuable to me than the added performance of option #3. (Again though, the choice of options 1, 2 and 3 is subjective for each owner, depending upon what level of "risk" is acceptable to that particular owner, and there is no absolute "objectively" correct choice)...

[Stevens21234]

Has something similar (tune by bmw) ever been offered previously for an M car? And I don't mean competition packages which could not be retrofitted,