[bmwauug]

Hi all,

I own a 2011 e90 335i sedan (performance edition) m sport.

I just test drove a 2014 black m sport after getting the "we want your car" email from the dealer. That said the car is very nice and has many upgraded features (eg. new nav version, HID, etc).

For those who made the switch, how happy are you? How well do you like the F30 over the E90? The one I'm looking at has the blacked out grille, tech package, cold weather, m sport, comfort and harman karden.

And thoughts are appreciated!

[tturedraider]

What dealer are you at?

[bmwauug]

Bill Jacobs

[bmwauug]

Car does not have DHP!

[E82.Love]

I have an e90 right now and whenever my e82 was in service they would give me the m package f30 loaner. Honestly, I'd much rather keep the e90. In my opinion, better on gas, better quality inside the car, handles much better than the f30. But the f30 looks are a little better. But I, myself, would keep the e90.

[Mobster1983]

I had a 2009 335i M Sport that I absolutely loved, but I much prefer the F30. The new tech is awesome, and I really like the HUD with built in Nav. Overall driving feel to me is better. When driving in sport the turns are crisp and the shifting speed is amazing.

I have a 2014 335i Sport.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by E82.Love

I have an e90 right now and whenever my e82 was in service they would give me the m package f30 loaner. Honestly, I'd much rather keep the e90. In my opinion, better on gas, better quality inside the car, handles much better than the f30. But the f30 looks are a little better. But I, myself, would keep the e90.

I find this difficult to comprehend - my 2007 335i coupe with Sport package and 6MT could only get 26-27 MPG on the road; my M-Sport F30 335i with MPPK can get 34-36MPG highway/28 city in Comfort mode, and the DHP provides superior ride and handling over the E92. No complaints about the interior, either; in the E92, the "rubberized" paint on the steering wheel hub trim, the driver's armrest switch plate, and the inside of the passenger door pull peeled off. The only thing I don't like about the F30 interior is the iDrive screen - it looks like an add-on instead of an integrated system.

[DJ Rocc]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I find this difficult to comprehend - my 2007 335i coupe with Sport package and 6MT could only get 26-27 MPG on the road; my M-Sport F30 335i with MPPK can get 34-36MPG highway/28 city in Comfort mode, and the DHP provides superior ride and handling over the E92. No complaints about the interior, either; in the E92, the "rubberized" paint on the steering wheel hub trim, the driver's armrest switch plate, and the inside of the passenger door pull peeled off. The only thing I don't like about the F30 interior is the iDrive screen - it looks like an add-on instead of an integrated system.

Yeah I agree, I think they will soon move to the way of like how the New Q3's Screen rises, and disappears into the dash.

[Halsifer]

Originally Posted by DJ Rocc

Yeah I agree, I think they will soon move to the way of like how the New Q3's Screen rises, and disappears into the dash.

I agree as well, would have been a nice touch to the F30s... If I had a nickel for every time someone has asked me, "Hey, does that screen, like, go down or something?"

It's just awkwardly placed, you know? It just kind of looks like they built the car and were like, "Oh s**t, we forgot the iDrive screen." Then they plopped it on top of the dash and was like, "Perfect."

[DJ Rocc]

Originally Posted by Halsifer

I agree as well, would have been a nice touch to the F30s... If I had a nickel for every time someone has asked me, "Hey, does that screen, like, go down or something?"

It's just awkwardly placed, you know? It just kind of looks like they built the car and were like, "Oh s**t, we forgot the iDrive screen." Then they plopped it on top of the dash and was like, "Perfect."

LOL

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by E82.Love

I have an e90 right now and whenever my e82 was in service they would give me the m package f30 loaner. Honestly, I'd much rather keep the e90. In my opinion, better on gas, better quality inside the car, handles much better than the f30. But the f30 looks are a little better. But I, myself, would keep the e90.

The f30 is undeniably better on gas (I have no idea how you think this given the large differences in mileage), has a better interior (unless maybe it's a loaded LCI e90 vs. no options f30), and has the better overall chassis. Some people have mentioned they think it handles better, though not myself from my experience.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I find this difficult to comprehend - my 2007 335i coupe with Sport package and 6MT could only get 26-27 MPG on the road; my M-Sport F30 335i with MPPK can get 34-36MPG highway/28 city in Comfort mode, and the DHP provides superior ride and handling over the E92. No complaints about the interior, either; in the E92, the "rubberized" paint on the steering wheel hub trim, the driver's armrest switch plate, and the inside of the passenger door pull peeled off. The only thing I don't like about the F30 interior is the iDrive screen - it looks like an add-on instead of an integrated system.

And just to add on to what you said my E70 has an interior that's 10 times better in built quality and looks than any E9X, excluding Ms since they get different seats. I don't think the E9x set any benchmarks in respect of interiors. They were never considered at any given point to be anywhere at the top in their segment, I would argue they were mid pack at best or somewhere in the lower quartile.

The F30 on the other hand has the most tech in its segment and some auto mags have even said has one of the best interiors in class. You will never find one archived auto mag that says the same about the E9X. I have no complaints when I compare my F30 to my E70's interior

[E82.Love]

Originally Posted by tallshortguy

The f30 is undeniably better on gas (I have no idea how you think this given the large differences in mileage), has a better interior (unless maybe it's a loaded LCI e90 vs. no options f30), and has the better overall chassis. Some people have mentioned they think it handles better, though not myself from my experience.

I don't know maybe since it was a loaner they were all abused. I was too scared to take it to the canyons. But with gas, I would fill up like 3 times a week and I would only drive 7 miles. From my job back to my house

[bmwauug]

Yeah - let's just say it has really grown on me - i like the interior. The 2014's have the new idrive which is nice (4.2) along with the HD screen.

The M sport adds many niceties - for an XDRIVE I am not fond of the standard suspension, but for $1600 I can add the dinan suspension to it - which solves that issues. I would also use the stock m400 wheels as winter wheels and get some 19's for the summer. That said I think i'm gonna make th move - noting, lease vs. buy. I typically buy but swap out every three years anyway (e.g., 30 months in my current car .

Sapphire black is really nice too!

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by E82.Love

I don't know maybe since it was a loaner they were all abused. I was too scared to take it to the canyons. But with gas, I would fill up like 3 times a week and I would only drive 7 miles. From my job back to my house

Was it a 328i? They get 27 combined (I get 29), there must have been something wrong with your loaner if you were having to fill up that much.

[E82.Love]

Originally Posted by tallshortguy

Was it a 328i? They get 27 combined, there must have been something wrong with your loaner if you were having to fill up that much.

Yeah they don't give the 335 loaners out in SoCal. Maybe there was something up with it. Again they were all abused. But it can't be from cheap gas since I filled 91 on there. Oh well

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by bmwauug

I own a 2011 e90 335i sedan (performance edition) m sport.

I just test drove a 2014 black m sport after getting the "we want your car" email from the dealer. That said the car is very nice and has many upgraded features (eg. new nav version, HID, etc).

For those who made the switch, how happy are you? How well do you like the F30 over the E90? ...

I drive a 2010 335d/sport, my wife recently bought a 328d.

The F30 is pretty nice - it fits us and our two grown (one 5'10", one 6'4") more comfortably than my car. It's also nice to have the iDrive - many more playthings than the BC stalk, and the backup camera/pdc is very nice to have. There is a bare bones look to the iDrive screen, which sort of follows the design theme of "don't try to disguise things, just show them off well" school of thought (there's an actual term for it but it escapes me at the moment). It's better than the E9x scheme IMHO.

The 8-speed auto is fabulous, programming is better and keeps the little engine in the right spot always.

It's hard to compare the ride (rwd/sport on E90 vs xDrive F30), but I like the F30 just fine. Steering is light like my E46 330xi, and my wife likes it fine.

[bmwauug]

Done.

[bahasad]

Looks great. I have an E90 and an F30 and overall the F30 is a much better package and an improvement. The E90 has the traditional BMW steering feel whereas there is absolutely no feel in the F30 and feels better built (my one has 86500 miles and feels nearly as solid as my F30 with 700 miles) but everything else the F30 is better.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I find this difficult to comprehend - my 2007 335i coupe with Sport package and 6MT could only get 26-27 MPG on the road; my M-Sport F30 335i with MPPK can get 34-36MPG highway/28 city in Comfort mode, and the DHP provides superior ride and handling over the E92. No complaints about the interior, either; in the E92, the "rubberized" paint on the steering wheel hub trim, the driver's armrest switch plate, and the inside of the passenger door pull peeled off. The only thing I don't like about the F30 interior is the iDrive screen - it looks like an add-on instead of an integrated system.

At first, I did not like the look of the iDrive screen in the F30 either. The F10 has the screen integrated into the dash like most other cars with screens. This is what I am used to so when I saw the F30 the first time, I was surprised. Then I drove the car. What a difference the screen placement makes when you are driving the car. The screen is up where the I can glance at it without moving my eyes from the road. I don't think the screen placement was a cost-cutting move either. The 650 Gran Coupe, for example, has the same screen placement and they spared no expense on that interior. IMHO, BMW engineers are yet again a step ahead instead of a step behind.

[bmwauug]

I have to say i REALLY loved my E90 - but this new F30 makes me forget - I really like it - the new 4.2 drive is very nice too!

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by DJ Rocc

Yeah I agree, I think they will soon move to the way of like how the New Q3's Screen rises, and disappears into the dash.

lol....you haven't been paying close attention to BMW's other interiors have you?

Originally Posted by Halsifer

I agree as well, would have been a nice touch to the F30s... If I had a nickel for every time someone has asked me, "Hey, does that screen, like, go down or something?"

It's just awkwardly placed, you know? It just kind of looks like they built the car and were like, "Oh s**t, we forgot the iDrive screen." Then they plopped it on top of the dash and was like, "Perfect."

What would be the reason for that?? Just so you can watch it go up and down everytime you start the car and turn it off? In today's cars the screen is used virtually every single time you're in the car, virtually the entire time you're in the car.

Talk about a tack on, afterthought, have you seen the iPad screen in the new Merc C?

Originally Posted by bmwauug

Done.

Nice. Congrats.