[300hp]

I had been wondering what the difference is now between my car with summers, PPK and mperformance is when compared to a "standard car".

I will rate each from a scale of one to ten in terms of if it's something I would miss if I had the standard setup

I observed that the 300hp car does not feel slower. Even coming from a 335hp car, the 300hp felt competent and just as fast as the 335hp car. However when I got back into my car it did feel faster especially once the cars are in motion and as speeds increase.
Would I miss PPK given the standard setup feels fast as is
7/10


I can't remember if the 300hp car had the sport auto trans but the gear shifts in my car felt faster.
Would I miss sport auto
5/10

The all seasons I guess as can be expected got to their limits faster than the summers. I could easily get them to squeal under hard cornering, my summers would take a bit more effort to get there.
Would I miss summers?
6/10

Mperformance exhaust and PPK do add several notches of sound effects to the standard set up. There is definitely more pronounced long bubbles and louder pops than in the stnd car. In fact in the stnd car some bubbles and pops are missing. At times I would be anticipating a bubble and nothing happened. At times I would let off the gas and expect some pops and nothing would happen. When cruising the mperformance exhaust makes a more remarkable sound than the standard exhaust. I would say you would find the standard setup quieter if you had PPK and mperformance exhaust on your car.
Would I miss mperformance exhaust
10/10

Here is the funny part, I parked my car next to the standard car I was driving and I started to rev both engines to see which one would be more interesting to listen to, lol was I surprised, the standard set up beat my car, it wasn't even close. Go figure

[Gio72]

Don't agree with the MPPK rate: the 335hp car feels remarkably faster
At least mine

How can you miss summers only 6/10 during this season????? Excuse me, but for me they are night&day on dry warm asphalt, nigh&day!

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Gio72

Don't agree with the MPPK rate: the 335hp car feels remarkably faster
At least mine

No doubt it's remarkablably faster. I guess I should have explained my scoring better. 5/10 is something I would be on the fence about. Anything above 5 is saying this is something I would not want to miss, anything below 5 is potentially I could live without.

Iro of PPK, the 300hp car does not feel slow when driving it and we all know it's a fast car. I think it's fair to say with PPK you are faster but that does not take away from how fast the stnd car goes. That's why a 7/10 is an adequate score for me

[Gio72]

Ah ok
Aside my butt dyno, I tried also to "misure" the improvement by taking two videos on the same track and with the same condition: one before MPPK and the other after fixing it. On 100/200kmh the improvement was 2": from 13" to 11" approx! Very noticeable!

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Gio72

Ah ok
Aside my butt dyno, I tried also to "misure" the improvement by taking two videos on the same track and with the same condition: one before MPPK and the other after fixing it. On 100/200kmh the improvement was 2": from 13" to 11" approx! Very noticeable!

Agreed, that's why I said as speeds increase you really start to feel it. I would say the butt dyno picks up the 30-50mph or 50-80 or 100-140 type acceleration runs much better than the 0-60 runs. Once the cars are both moving the difference in the butt dyno is greater.

You point on summer tires is also correct. Summer tires are way better than all seasons but there is no way I would rate them higher than the PPK.

[300hp]

One more observation, the n55 feels more at home with the stnd set up. Everything just feels right. I am not implying there is additional NVH with PPK because there isn't but there is something that just feels right with the stnd set up.

[Gio72]

I don't agree. For me N55 with MPPK is simply perfect. I loved its power and torque when it was stock, but now it is better. Maybe it has lost 200rpm on the very top (it's normal with a higher boost of 0,2bar), but between 5000 and 6500rpm it is simply fantastic!

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Gio72

I don't agree. For me N55 with MPPK is simply perfect. I loved its power and torque when it was stock, but now it is better. Maybe it has lost 200rpm on the very top (it's normal with a higher boost of 0,2bar), but between 5000 and 6500rpm it is simply fantastic!

I guess we can agree that with 300 or 335hp the n55 is perfect

[minn19]

My wife's X1 has the stock RFT Continentals on it. It is night and day from the PSS that are on my car.

The ride is so much better with the PSS and obviously they offer much higher levels of grip.

I agree with both of you guys about the N55 whether it is equipped with or without the PPK. It is great stock, but I really love the extra punch and sound that the MPPK/MPE combo brings to the experience.

[WickedC5]

So the new ppk that adds 35 hp per is not worth it youre saying? ..or am I not understanding your rating scale?

[Blubaron79]

Not to hijack, but I had the 'sport gauge' in my car read 350hp after a hard run on the highway. How much stock do you put into these gauges?

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

How much stock do you put into these gauges?

A lot. It's highly accurate, way more so than a car spinning rollers hooked up to a computer. This is the actual car telling you how much power it's making. BMW engineers would not put anything like that in the car unless it's accurate. Otherwise it would be a gimmick. Frankly if other manufacturers follow suit and a similar readout is included in other performance cars, it signals the end of dyno shops and dyno tuning.

[Gio72]

Originally Posted by WickedC5

So the new ppk that adds 35 hp per is not worth it youre saying? ..or am I not understanding your rating scale?

It's absolutely worth it!

[300hp]

Originally Posted by WickedC5

So the new ppk that adds 35 hp per is not worth it youre saying? ..or am I not understanding your rating scale?

Well let me put it across differently. I went in thinking the 300hp setup was going to feel like a much slower car. No that was not the case. If I had gone in and it felt like a Camry I would have awarded the PPK 10/10. The reality is the 300hp car can hold its own. After all it's a very low 13s car in the quarter.

Now if I compare the sound effects of the mperformance exhaust with the stock exhaust, I can definitely say the stock exhaust is quite compared to the mperformance exhaust. 10/10 for the mperformance exhaust. I can't say the 300hp car is slow and neither does it feel slow, so 7/10. It's kind of the same thing when people compare the 300hp car with the 328i, people say yes the 300hp is faster but the 328i is no slouch. I am sure if you drive a 300hp car and compared it to the 328i, you might come up with the same rating.

If you have been driving a 300hp car and move to the one with PPK, trust me you will feel the difference. Same thing as someone coming from a 328i to a stnd 335i

[NOBLE MOTORCARS]

its 35 ponies, no big deal... i came from a fbo 335i...refer to my signature...i dyno'd at 390hp and 410tq

[BavarianMotorWorks]

I just had a chance to drive at a BMW Event, the 435i xDrive with MPPK and the MPE. I'm sure it was a newer model so it most likely had the new MPPK. For reference I have a 2013 F30 335i RWD stock. I actually also just dropped off my x5 for service and received a F30 328i xDrive. So I had a chance to drive all these back to back over the weekend.

I would say 300hp is fairly spot on with his assessment. When going from a 328i to the 335i you definitely notice a difference but again the 328i is really not that slow. I'll admit the noise it makes is pretty terrible and I think the engines from VW/Audi sound much better. This alone, to me, makes the N55 worth it. But again you notice how the N55 just feels like there is less lag and pulls with more authority in all of the rev range.

In the 435i xDrive you can feel the difference but in my opinion not as much of a difference going from the 328i to the 335i. There are some subtle changes like more burbles and better throttle response but you have to decide if those are worth the money.

The part I disagree with 300hp about is the exhaust. I think the stock exhaust is so quiet it makes almost any other exhaust sound pretty good in my opinion. With the windows up and with the MPE most of the noise you hear is still induction noise and from the exhaust behind you. The MPE has more low end bass to it so you can hear the overrun noise more but again not a huge difference. Even with the windows down I didn't think there was a huge difference. I think the biggest difference for the exhaust would be when driving through parking garages and maybe to the outside perspective but that doesn't help the driver out. If I was spending money on an exhaust I would spend more and get something with a bit more substantial noise.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by BavarianMotorWorks

I just had a chance to drive at a BMW Event, the 435i xDrive with MPPK and the MPE. I'm sure it was a newer model so it most likely had the new MPPK. For reference I have a 2013 F30 335i RWD stock. I actually also just dropped off my x5 for service and received a F30 328i xDrive. So I had a chance to drive all these back to back over the weekend.

I would say 300hp is fairly spot on with his assessment. When going from a 328i to the 335i you definitely notice a difference but again the 328i is really not that slow. I'll admit the noise it makes is pretty terrible and I think the engines from VW/Audi sound much better. This alone, to me, makes the N55 worth it. But again you notice how the N55 just feels like there is less lag and pulls with more authority in all of the rev range.

In the 435i xDrive you can feel the difference but in my opinion not as much of a difference going from the 328i to the 335i. There are some subtle changes like more burbles and better throttle response but you have to decide if those are worth the money.

The part I disagree with 300hp about is the exhaust. I think the stock exhaust is so quiet it makes almost any other exhaust sound pretty good in my opinion. With the windows up and with the MPE most of the noise you hear is still induction noise and from the exhaust behind you. The MPE has more low end bass to it so you can hear the overrun noise more but again not a huge difference. Even with the windows down I didn't think there was a huge difference. I think the biggest difference for the exhaust would be when driving through parking garages and maybe to the outside perspective but that doesn't help the driver out. If I was spending money on an exhaust I would spend more and get something with a bit more substantial noise.

Exactly. The PPK gives you enough power and you will appreciate the difference. However it's not enough power to make the 300hp set up a slouch.

I agree with you assessment that the stock exhaust is quite. However I believe the MPE only enhances on what is there. If you go stock power and MPE then there is a lot of bubbles and pops that are missing from your exhaust, a lot. Add PPK and MPE then you get the whole plethora of sound effects

[Gio72]

Ok, sorry for those who have just watched them, but here are two my videos, both taken on the same track and on the same weather condition (temperature and wind too): the first at 2500km with standard N55 and the second after installing MPPK and after driving other 300km for the right auto-learning of ECU.
Standard N55:

MPPK N55:

It worth it. Doubtless

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Gio72

Ok, sorry for those who have just watched them, but here are two my videos, both taken on the same track and on the same weather condition (temperature and wind too): the first at 2500km with standard N55 and the second after installing MPPK and after driving other 300km for the right auto-learning of ECU.
Standard N55:
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MPPK N55:
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It worth it. Doubtless

You should have taken a 35-75 run as well (55-120), when I got back to my car that's where I saw some remarkable gains. 0-60 was not as easy to tell except when motioning HUD and looking at the number that comes beyond 60. In the PPK car a higher number pops up than in the car sans PPK.