European Auto Source (EAS)
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > M3/M4 versus...

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-16-2014, 01:49 PM   #1
jeff4598
Captain
172
Rep
676
Posts

Drives: 2019 M2C HS, DCT, much Dinan
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: new jersey

iTrader: (0)

Wish I'd bought a 2013 M3 - What to do?

Damn I wish this car was CLEARLY better than the e90 M3. Mine is 5 1/2 years old and I don't want to hold on to it as it ages but with a bad back and it's price I don't think a 911 is in the cards so I wish I could know I would like an M4 better but it's just not clear. Of course a test drive but so hard to know in a brief dive with the salesperson there. Reviews are SO( not the color) mixed and divergent re same issues ie sound, turbo lag, handling. I am not anti M4 but now wishing I had gone from my 2009 to a 2013 and avoided this. Any thoughts?
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 01:53 PM   #2
4/3rds
Lieutenant
4/3rds's Avatar
United_States
21
Rep
496
Posts

Drives: 2015 BMW M4 (transporting)
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Oklahoma

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Buy a low milage 2013 M3.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...6001&_from=R40
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 01:54 PM   #3
Walt Dockery
Private First Class
20
Rep
198
Posts

Drives: na
Join Date: May 2014
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Why not buy a used '13 if you feel this way?
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 02:02 PM   #4
JoeFromPA
Colonel
1791
Rep
2,995
Posts

Drives: '15 AW M3 6MT Stripper
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SE PA

iTrader: (0)

In my test drive, it was clearly better than the e90 m3 for MY purposes and desires. In every way.

Some people are more about magazine times or trackability. Those aren't my focuses and as a result for me it was immediately and clearly superior in all the ways I cared about it being different.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 02:06 PM   #5
dmk08
Gone Fishin’
dmk08's Avatar
United_States
7315
Rep
12,125
Posts

Drives: Walks
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFromPA View Post
In my test drive, it was clearly better than the e90 m3 for MY purposes and desires. In every way.

Some people are more about magazine times or trackability. Those aren't my focuses and as a result for me it was immediately and clearly superior in all the ways I cared about it being different.
What are your focuses?
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 02:13 PM   #6
solstice
Major General
5457
Rep
7,037
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

As you say, it's difficult to get a very good idea at test drives BUT it's a million times better than to listen to what someone else thinks unless you ask a person that you know has very similar preferences to yours. People will say anything to make their points valid or seem like they care of the same things if you ask now. You need to know from either knowing them personally or from a long history of comments or pro reviews. Worst thing you can do is to trust some arbitrary person here that you will feel the same.

Multiple test drives is the best advice I know to give if you are on the fence.
Appreciate 1
      07-16-2014, 02:18 PM   #7
acey81
First Lieutenant
Sweden
48
Rep
313
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 40d M-sport; F80 M3
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

iTrader: (0)

It is clearly better in every way and it shows in 95% of the reviews. However that doesn't mean that it necessarily suits you. Look at the GT-R or 911.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 02:25 PM   #8
Audio Fan
Major
Audio Fan's Avatar
774
Rep
1,058
Posts

Drives: AY - M4
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NC

iTrader: (0)

Go to the performance delivery school at the BMW PDC for a track day. It's relatively inexpensive, and from all accounts, is great fun. They'll let you rag on one enough to make your mind up on the spot.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 02:49 PM   #9
mercedesc63
Captain
mercedesc63's Avatar
United_States
256
Rep
928
Posts

Drives: 02 BMW Z3M Coupe S54 Slicktop
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

I'm buying a used M4 in a few years when the price is down to like 45k.
However I drove the 2015 M3 and compared to my E93 M3 it wasn't that great.
The steering was heavy and the seats are worse. It also costs like a lot more than before.
Leasing one is a good deal but only for 4 years. It's never better than buying used though.
__________________
Gone but not forgotten:
2007 E63 M6 SMG, 1999 996 Carrera Cab AT, 2007 & 2008 E90 335xi AT, 2011 E93 M3 DCT, 2X 2002 E46 M3 SMG & 6MT, 2016 F80 M3 DCT
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 03:11 PM   #10
Wah
IG@i.am.wah
Wah's Avatar
United_States
2779
Rep
3,815
Posts

Drives: M2 CS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NJ

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by mercedesc63 View Post
It also costs like a lot more than before.
If you configure the car similarly, meaning no LEDs, CCBs, full leather, and those things that weren't available on the outgoing model, the prices have actually remained pretty close if you consider the gas guzzler tax as part of the base cost of an e9x. This is the thing that really surprised me about the new M3/4 and part of the reason I am buying one.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 03:38 PM   #11
GBPackerfan1963
Banned
United_States
39
Rep
996
Posts

Drives: 2002 BMW M5 2007 E60 550i
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Elk Grove, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2002 BMW M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mercedesc63 View Post
I'm buying a used M4 in a few years when the price is down to like 45k.
However I drove the 2015 M3 and compared to my E93 M3 it wasn't that great.
The steering was heavy and the seats are worse. It also costs like a lot more than before.
Leasing one is a good deal but only for 4 years. It's never better than buying used though.
See you in 2018 then. Have a nice trip.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 04:04 PM   #12
Keto
Lieutenant Colonel
Keto's Avatar
United_States
73
Rep
1,603
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: WHO DAT NATION

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2015 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff4598
Damn I wish this car was CLEARLY better than the e90 M3. Mine is 5 1/2 years old and I don't want to hold on to it as it ages but with a bad back and it's price I don't think a 911 is in the cards so I wish I could know I would like an M4 better but it's just not clear. Of course a test drive but so hard to know in a brief dive with the salesperson there. Reviews are SO( not the color) mixed and divergent re same issues ie sound, turbo lag, handling. I am not anti M4 but now wishing I had gone from my 2009 to a 2013 and avoided this. Any thoughts?
The reviews aren't mixed.
__________________
2015 SO/SO MT M3 :: Exec : Lighting : Adaptive : HK : CF trim : Full leather : DAP : Black 19's : sunshade
Crystalline tint 40%/70% on windshield : M performance mirrors, spoiler, splitters : Status Gruppe CF lip : RKP diffuser : Fully dechromed
Bavsound Stage 1 : V1 Savvy hardwired : Self-coded
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 04:19 PM   #13
SOM3
Banned
43
Rep
1,147
Posts

Drives: SO F80
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Euro

iTrader: (0)

New car is much better in every category, it is not even debatable. I would take it over F10 M5 too...without hesitation.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 04:20 PM   #14
SOM3
Banned
43
Rep
1,147
Posts

Drives: SO F80
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Euro

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keto View Post
The reviews aren't mixed.
Exactly.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 05:13 PM   #15
Drizz
Lieutenant
Drizz's Avatar
182
Rep
595
Posts

Drives: '23 BMW X7; '20 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Truth. They're all pretty clear that the F80 is better in every regard.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 06:11 PM   #16
/// M sa
Major
/// M sa's Avatar
240
Rep
1,418
Posts

Drives: F80 MG
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Delmarva

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mercedesc63 View Post
I'm buying a used M4 in a few years when the price is down to like 45k.
However I drove the 2015 M3 and compared to my E93 M3 it wasn't that great.
The steering was heavy and the seats are worse. It also costs like a lot more than before.
Leasing one is a good deal but only for 4 years. It's never better than buying used though.
Why buy a car that is not that great to the all mighty e92 super king of all cars?
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 06:50 PM   #17
Frank_NJ
///M Specialist
Frank_NJ's Avatar
United_States
556
Rep
1,497
Posts

Drives: E30 M3, E52 Z8, G83 M4Cx
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NJ Shore

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff4598 View Post
Damn I wish this car was CLEARLY better than the e90 M3. Mine is 5 1/2 years old and I don't want to hold on to it as it ages but with a bad back and it's price I don't think a 911 is in the cards so I wish I could know I would like an M4 better but it's just not clear. Of course a test drive but so hard to know in a brief dive with the salesperson there. Reviews are SO( not the color) mixed and divergent re same issues ie sound, turbo lag, handling. I am not anti M4 but now wishing I had gone from my 2009 to a 2013 and avoided this. Any thoughts?
PM me and I can set you up with someone for a good test drive that won't rush you at all. I took their M3 out for about a good hour and change and got a great feel for the car in all conditions.
__________________
2023 M340ix my Daily Driver

G83 M4CV, F80 M3 CS, E30 M3, Z8, other various BMW's
Ferrari F8
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 07:12 PM   #18
JL M3
First Lieutenant
United_States
36
Rep
348
Posts

Drives: E46 M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Southern California

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOM3 View Post
New car is much better in every category, it is not even debatable. I would take it over F10 M5 too...without hesitation.
I feel the exact same way! Miles ahead of the previous E92 M3 and my friends F10 M5. I was actually looking for a sporty family car to hold two babies so I went in to my car search with that mind set. And even then, I still prefer the M3 over the M5.

This will be my third M3 (E46, E92, F80) and IMO, the F80 is a greater leap from the E92 then the E92 was from the E46. That's just my opinion.

But to the OP, try to drive the car. Even in a short test drive, you my be able to get a decent idea of whether you like it a little, somewhat, or much more than the E92. If you're still not sure after the test drive, then hold on to your car and money for now. No sense spending money on something you don't actually love just to have the latest thing.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 07:21 PM   #19
Definitive
definitivecars.com
Definitive's Avatar
United_States
352
Rep
3,833
Posts

Drives: Elsa - 2015 F80 M3 - YMB/SS
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
You should get the M4 but if you decide to get another E90 M3, mine is for sale. It's a 2011 but with lots of cosmetic mods and 33,000 miles.

D
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 07:25 PM   #20
04RC51
Large Member
04RC51's Avatar
951
Rep
1,749
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, F82 M4
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC

iTrader: (1)

I can't believe people keep falling for the E9X fanboi troll threads like this. I understand some people have sunk so much money into their E9X's and can't get it back out or may not be able to swing an F8X car right now but I never expected this many troll threads and outright hate for a new, superior car that rendered theirs obsolete.
__________________
2008 E92 M3 (Engine swap completed), 2015 F82 M4
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 07:34 PM   #21
/// M sa
Major
/// M sa's Avatar
240
Rep
1,418
Posts

Drives: F80 MG
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Delmarva

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04RC51 View Post
I can't believe people keep falling for the E9X fanboi troll threads like this. I understand some people have sunk so much money into their E9X's and can't get it back out or may not be able to swing an F8X car right now but I never expected this many troll threads and outright hate for a new, superior car that rendered theirs obsolete.
Jealousy brother lol I could hardly give a shit what those trolls want. First day I drove off the lot in my f80 m had e90m tailgating me. Piece of garbage had to change his rout many times as I made turns to see if he was following me and he wanted to race on a busy street.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2014, 10:03 PM   #22
M6-Coupe
Major General
M6-Coupe's Avatar
1125
Rep
6,064
Posts

Drives: F92 M8
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Bay area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by solstice View Post
As you say, it's difficult to get a very good idea at test drives BUT it's a million times better than to listen to what someone else thinks unless you ask a person that you know has very similar preferences to yours. People will say anything to make their points valid or seem like they care of the same things if you ask now. You need to know from either knowing them personally or from a long history of comments or pro reviews. Worst thing you can do is to trust some arbitrary person here that you will feel the same.

Multiple test drives is the best advice I know to give if you are on the fence.
__________________
Current : 2020 F92 Black Sapphire M8 - ZF8
Gone : 2018 F80 Mineral Gray M3 - 6MT
Gone : 2016 F82 Austin Yellow M4 - 6MT
Gone : 2013 F13 Sakhir Orange M6 -7DCT
Gone: 2013 F13 Alpine White 650i -ZF8
Appreciate 0
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST