[bogga501]

I am looking to buy 2014 335i xDrive, and dealers around me have ones with Dynamic Handling Package or Sport Automatic Transmission in stock, but nothing with both

If you had to choose between the two, which would you choose?

I know I can order a 2015 exactly the way I want, but I need a car fairly soon, and you can get a nice discount on 2014's. Also, there aren't any 6MT with ZDH either

Thanks!

[MickAv8r]

Id say the Sport Transmission. Its something I'm using pretty much every drive. Yes you can code some of those features in but you can't code in the paddles though they may be retrofittable.


However at this price point I'd also say get the car you want, not just what is available, you'll be happier in the long run.

[SouthernBoy]

Dynamic Handling Package is definitely is worth getting. My 2014 has it, but my 2012 F30 didn't. I think there is a significant difference in dynamics with and without the DHP.

Can you ask the dealer to find a car like the one you want in inventory somewhere in the US? My sales guy at my dealership searched around and said they had a car that best matched the features I wanted (not all of them) and they could ship it all the way down from New York state (I live in Georgia).

[Monkey Punk]

Many good opinions here. I am ordering my F30 now as well.

Sport Automatic would be my choice. Why? Well, only if you intend on getting the M sport suspension later. If you plan on lowering your car (I have seen a lot of people complain about how soft the suspension on Xdrives are even with DHP).

If you don't plan on lowering it, get the DHP. My humble opinion.

EDIT: Or if you aren't the impatient type get an SA to walk you through the build process and wait for your perfect car to come to you!

[SouthernBoy]

Originally Posted by Monkey says...

Many good opinions here. I am ordering my F30 now as well.

Sport Automatic would be my choice. Why? Well, only if you intend on getting the M sport suspension later. If you plan on lowering your car (I have seen a lot of people complain about how soft the suspension on Xdrives are even with DHP).

If you don't plan on lowering it, get the DHP. My humble opinion.

EDIT: Or if you aren't the impatient type get an SA to walk you through the build process and wait for your perfect car to come to you!

My understanding is that the 2014 335i M-Sport with DHP is already lower than the regular 335i

[Monkey Punk]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

My understanding is that the 2014 335i M-Sport with DHP is already lower than the regular 335i

I wasn't aware of that, but I am a neophyte to these things. Do you have any references on that? If so, I may change my order and get DHP! Any information is appreciated...so thanks in advance!

PS: My wife is from Carrollton (45 miles West of ATL). Whereabouts in ATL are you?

[SouthernBoy]

Originally Posted by Monkey says...

I wasn't aware of that, but I am a neophyte to these things. Do you have any references on that? If so, I may change my order and get DHP! Any information is appreciated...so thanks in advance!

PS: My wife is from Carrollton (45 miles West of ATL). Whereabouts in ATL are you?

I quickly looked up my previous posts on threads and luckily found where people were talking about this.

Go to this page and look for the word "lower" on the page.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...=993760&page=2

So one user by the name of "sdhotwn" is saying the M-Sport Edition is lower and another user by the name of "RPM90" is saying that the "X drives with DHP get the M adaptive dampers but not the lower and firmer rate sport springs." I am assuming he means the regular ones are lower as long as you don't have xDrive.

Are you only ordering the non-xDrive version? If so, they say it's lower. My F30 is supposedly lower right now, but I don't notice a real difference versus a regular F30.

You might want to send a private message to the user "RPM90" on that thread and ask.

I live in the Westside Provisions District near downtown Atlanta.

[Monkey Punk]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

I quickly looked up my previous posts on threads and luckily found where people were talking about this.

Go to this page and look for the word "lower" on the page.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...=993760&page=2

So one user by the name of "sdhotwn" is saying the M-Sport Edition is lower and another user by the name of "RPM90" is saying that the "X drives with DHP get the M adaptive dampers but not the lower and firmer rate sport springs." I am assuming he means the regular ones are lower as long as you don't have xDrive.

Are you only ordering the non-xDrive version? If so, they say it's lower. My F30 is supposedly lower right now, but I don't notice a real difference versus a regular F30.

You might want to send a private message to the user "RPM90" on that thread and ask.

I live in the Westside Provisions District near downtown Atlanta.

Great to meet you! Thanks for the gouge....correct, I am ordering a RWD 335i and am trying to balance possible cost in the future of MPS....If I can get close to the same set up with DHP, then I will go with that and then go with springs later if I want to go lower.

[stormlv]

If I were to choose, I'd get the DHP.

It definitively transforms the car between the different modes.
You can code the car for the Sport transmission afterwards.

Unless you track the car I don't see the paddles as a must.

I think that DHP will make you much happier.

P.S. I also think that you should get a custom order and get what you want - not what someone has or hasn't got in stock...

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

My understanding is that the 2014 335i M-Sport with DHP is already lower than the regular 335i

Not with xDrive. The xDrive suspension is 10mm higher than the standard suspension whether or not you have DHP.

OP, because xDrive eliminates the 704 sport suspension I would choose DHP given your parameters.

[SouthernBoy]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Not with xDrive. The xDrive suspension is 10mm higher than the standard suspension whether or not you have DHP.

OP, because xDrive eliminates the 704 sport suspension I would choose DHP given your parameters.

Correct. Please see my other post above. I'm aware xDrive is higher.

[SergioK]

Get DHP, you can always add the Sports Trans later via coding and even change out the steering wheel with paddle shifters.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

My understanding is that the 2014 335i M-Sport with DHP is already lower than the regular 335i

I don't think that's 100% accurate. M-Sport RWD cars are lower than regular 335i's. M-Sport AWD F30's are of the same height as regular non M-Sport F30's.

RWD M-Sport F30's also get the M Suspension set up whereas AWD M-Sports do not (getting DHP negates that though). So if you had an AWD M-Sport without DHP, you'd have the same suspension set up as a standard F30.

[NOBLE MOTORCARS]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

I don't think that's 100% accurate. M-Sport RWD cars are lower than regular 335i's. M-Sport AWD F30's are of the same height as regular non M-Sport F30's.

RWD M-Sport F30's also get the M Suspension set up whereas AWD M-Sports do not (getting DHP negates that though). So if you had an AWD M-Sport without DHP, you'd have the same suspension set up as a standard F30.

ahh i see that makes sense, thanks for clarifying

[bogga501]

Thanks, everyone for the advises.

As someone suggested, I am going to ask the CA to see if he can locate a car with both options for me.

If not successful, I think I'll go with DHP, as it sounds like I can code some of the sport transmission features later (and I don't care much for the paddles).

Thanks again.

[SouthernBoy]

Originally Posted by bogga501

Thanks, everyone for the advises.

As someone suggested, I am going to ask the CA to see if he can locate a car with both options for me.

If not successful, I think I'll go with DHP, as it sounds like I can code some of the sport transmission features later (and I don't care much for the paddles).

Thanks again.

Yeah the paddles on BMWs are the ultimate bummer. They aren't stationary and move with the wheel.

[BMWFanatic2008]

DHP, esp on xdrive.

[BimmerQuest]

Originally Posted by bogga501

Thanks, everyone for the advises.

As someone suggested, I am going to ask the CA to see if he can locate a car with both options for me.

If not successful, I think I'll go with DHP, as it sounds like I can code some of the sport transmission features later (and I don't care much for the paddles).

Thanks again.

Cool - I went with both. If you can't wait for an order I suggest you really have your CA exhaust all options trying to find one that meets all criteria. My CA found one across the country with everything I wanted except DHP. It would have been $900 to ship it. I ended up ordering and ticking all the boxes I wanted and none that I didn't.

I vote for ordering it custom - that way you don't have any doubts.

But I also completely understand needing a car right away AND being without one - relying on your 16 yr old son to shuttle you around.

[64-bit]

Originally Posted by MickAv8r

Id say the Sport Transmission. Its something I'm using pretty much every drive. Yes you can code some of those features in but you can't code in the paddles though they may be retrofittable.


However at this price point I'd also say get the car you want, not just what is available, you'll be happier in the long run.

+1

[jonkarn]

I'm wondering how having paddles that are stationary would be better than paddles that move with the wheel? Don't your hands having to move as the wheel moves? How would u access the paddles while making a full turn with your hands?

Yes it's difficult and awkward to access the paddles when in full turning action, not sure how they are meant to work when quickly turning in let's say twisty roads, but I would think it would be even more difficult if the paddles were stationary.

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy

Yeah the paddles on BMWs are the ultimate bummer. They aren't stationary and move with the wheel.

[carzaddict]

get the DHP.....you can code the Sports Trans....now you have both

[BDWonder]

Originally Posted by bogga501

I am looking to buy 2014 335i xDrive, and dealers around me have ones with Dynamic Handling Package or Sport Automatic Transmission in stock, but nothing with both

If you had to choose between the two, which would you choose?

I know I can order a 2015 exactly the way I want, but I need a car fairly soon, and you can get a nice discount on 2014's. Also, there aren't any 6MT with ZDH either

Thanks!

For the Xdive, you may as well get DHP, to balance out the soft non-sport suspension. I've driven the F30 Xdrive without the DHP, and it was like a boat in the corners, way too much body roll. having said that, i have the 435 RWD with DHP. To be honest, i dont "feel" much difference in normal daily driving between Comfort and Sport (Sport +) in terms of suspension. Yes, there's a little difference that I see in suspension, in Comfort it is a little softer, but doesn't do a great job on certain roads and potholes. In Sport (+), it is s little stiffer. I do not see a huge dynamic differnece in my opinion, and feel that in Sport, the suspension at times "lags" at adjusting itself to the cornering and etc. (I'd like to test drive the magnetic suspension though to compare). At time, the difference isn't even noticeable. I do not track my car, so perhaps that is where I would feel the differnece. I am a bit disappointed in the DHP. Was expecting Comfort to be much softer, and Sport to be much stiffer. Again, this is only my experience. I have the car since January. Other folks may feel a huge difference. It's all good. Test drive if possible. Good luck dude.