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NADA value could also mean retail value-which is probably what they are offering.
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I'd be getting a replacement vehicle for free. VW is basically forcing the OP to trade in his car because they fucked up and sold it to him illegally. And people complain about General Motors...
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12-03-2018, 08:09 AM | #25 |
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"clean" kelley blue book pricing would be reasonable if they offered you the retail price but they are offering you the wholesale price.
Volkswagen is rightly reeling from its fraudulent activities regarding diesel engines. I would demand retail price on a "clean" vehicle and if they demurred, I would tell them, and followup, with your local television stations and newspapers that Volkswagen is at it again. I think retail price on a "clean" vehicle is a reasonable buyback. You did get the use of the vehicle but they should pay you retail value. |
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"From now until March 31, 2019, vehicle values will be calculated and paid based upon the NADA Clean-Trade Value in the USA / Canadian Black Book Value in Canada." |
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12-03-2018, 01:31 PM | #28 |
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If this issue sees the light of day...Volkswagen will be pilloried over what it is doing and will have to retreat.
Again...the cars are six years old so it shouldn't be the same as a lemon law reimbursement. But they owe their customers better treatment than they are offering. Wells Fargo realized it screwed up...albeit it very late and has now shown remorse over its actions and promising a fresh start. I don't see that coming from VW. |
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12-03-2018, 02:30 PM | #29 |
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Per many previous posters, I would at least ask for retail value of the vehicle and then some and here is why:
1. Their mistake is causing you unnecessary burden. There should be some compensation for this alone. 2. If you were to actually trade in your vehicle you would most likely be receiving a sales tax credit on the difference of the trade-in value versus the new car purchase price. 3. When you go to purchase another vehicle, which you now MUST do because of their mistake, you pay retail, not trade-in value. 4. You will be forced to pay all of the licensing/registration and BS doc fees when you purchase another vehicle. I would find a few comparable vehicles available for sale in your area and calculate what the sales tax and licensing fees would be so that you have an out-the-door price. Better yet, visit the dealership and let them know your situation and ask them for a written out-the-door purchase price summary. I would try to stick to vehicles for sale at VW dealerships if possible. Compile this and present it to VAG of America. Show them how replacing your vehicle is going to cost more than what they are offering you and it's only fair that they compensate you to a degree that puts you back at net zero. Furthermore, the financial impact of replacing the actual vehicle is only part of the equation. You have now been required to put time in researching how this impacts you and you will undoubtedly be spending time pursuing a new vehicle, all of which you should be compensated for. I would push for no less than $500 compensation for time and aggravation and would actually ask for more. My guess is they will give in pretty easily to these demands as they are not unreasonable and would not be worth their time fighting over it in court. |
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Maybe VW should offer you a CPO vehicle that is about 3 years old and just came back in. It would seem like a more generous option even though it probably cost them the same as it would be at cost for them. At least you get a much newer vehicle that comes with a warranty and VW gets the other car off the road.
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We're speaking the same language, but I suspect your $5,000.00 ask would be a tough sell to VW unless you're a surgeon or partner in a law firm where you can translate your hourly income lost to that sum of money. The average time spent researching and making the purchase of a used vehicle is somewhere just south of 20 total hours. If you make $50.00/hour that translates to roughly $1,000.00. As I stated prior I would ask for no less than $500, no matter your income/financial situation.
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12-05-2018, 04:57 AM | #34 |
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This whole thing is asinine.
OP, was the vehicle you bought used, as in some other private person bought the car and registered it prior to your ownership, or was it a VW corporate vehicle that was previously registered by Volkswagen?
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12-05-2018, 10:15 AM | #35 |
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OP, if you bought the car from a VW dealer, you could lawyer up and send VW a letter with intent to sue for having been sold an illegal vehicle and putting your family at risk for so many years. Demand for a new same model vehicle for your risk.
Additionally, you could make some noise on social media and possible news channels - sure to get their attention. |
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12-10-2018, 11:51 AM | #36 |
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@turnmando We are also getting our zero series recalled and just paid off. I’m hoping someone starts a class action lawsuit. I also sent a long detailed email to the FTC. There is also a huge recall for these vehicles in Germany! https://car-recalls.eu/vw-solves-the...he-entire-car/
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They are being forced to get rid of a paid off car. |
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The only people that benefit from a large scale class action lawsuits are the lawyers involved. X amount of dollars won in a settlement to be divided up between 50-100k people or however many recalled vehicles there are, less attorney fees equals basically peanuts to the consumers of these vehicles. It's a long, drawn out process in which the manufacturer pays out millions of dollars and passes this on to the end user in higher priced goods. Everyone loses except the lawyers.
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More on VW scandal https://jalopnik.com/volkswagen-is-i...pre-1831012179
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12-11-2018, 04:04 PM | #43 |
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^WOW! How do they "accidentally" sell 6700, possibly 17,000, cars that weren't meant to be sold...and why would they build so many "test and/or display" cars?
Doesn't quite seem like the whole story is being told. If I was the OP I'd fight this tooth and nail and get a new car out of it. |
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Man VW is one shady company. Glad I own a couple of them.
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