07-15-2020, 07:23 AM | #1 |
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How often do you have to change your rotors and brakes? How many miles or km?
I'm interested to know from our group here how often you have to change your brakes? When you do your brake service and after how many miles or kms do you change your brakes?
This information of course includes: Rotors and Pads. Important information: Year of vehicle (X1 or X2), type of driving you do? Heavy traffic / local light traffic. Daily driving and other information you feel is valid. Any issues you have had? I feel that this information would be useful to our group. |
07-26-2020, 09:56 PM | #3 |
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69K Kms or 43K Miles and the rears were still ok. That's awesome! t to hear. I was told to be more forceful on the brakes after the first 1K Kms. or 600 miles. That's good to know. One of my friends had a 535 and he was at 43k kms or about 30K miles after 4 years of driving when he traded it in for an X3 M4.0. It's a big vehicle compared to the Minis that it's based on or visa versa...
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07-27-2020, 03:08 PM | #4 |
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Replaced both front and rear relatively early, only after low pad life indicator light came on. Rear changed at 25.3k miles after only about 1 year and 1 month from purchase (brand new) and front at 30.8k miles after 1 year and 5 months.
Went with OEM pads and Zimmerman rotors for rear and Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors for front. I would've done Akebonos on both axles, but they weren't available when I changed my rear brakes. There is no noticeable difference in stopping power with the Akebonos up front and they definitely create less brake dust than the rears. Driving style is ~60% highway (with some stop and go traffic)/40% city with roughly 50% "spirited" driving style and 50% conservative. A note to future DIY'ers is that a rear brake job will require either a scan tool capable of winding back the electronic parking brake, or you'll have to do it manually by removing the parking brake actuator and then winding the piston back. Also, per newTIS, the rear brake bracket bolts need to be tightened to a specific torque amount (30 Nm) then to a particular angle (90 degrees). Besides these 2 points, it's a typical brake job like most other vehicles. |
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07-27-2020, 11:53 PM | #6 |
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Front set that I purchased were Akebono EUR1892 (wear sensor is included). Rears should be Akebono EUR1762 (I cannot confirm 100%, but per fcpeuro's fitment note this would fit a 2018 X1 xDrive). I don't know if this US company, fcpeuro, serves Australia, but you should independently verify these Akebono kits will fit your car.
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07-30-2020, 04:17 AM | #8 |
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Just for info, I had my X1 (25600 miles) in to the UK dealer for some very minor warranty work earlier this week. As part of the process the technician carried out a 'Vehicle Health Check' from which he reported an 'Advisory' that the front brake pads were down to 6.0mm (discs OK) and rear pads down to 4.0mm (discs OK). I don't know at what wear stage the warning light would show.
Quoted UK prices for complete pad replacements were Front £260.24 and rear £234.31. Ouch!!! Additional info: I just checked a UK parts supplier and indicative prices for the front replacement pads and wear/ABS sensor (both parts required) shown as £121.03 for Brembo pads and Pagid sensor) and £105.83 for similar rear parts. It appears the sensors are at front left and rear right brake unit. As stated, those prices are indicative and may be different depending on manufacturer of brake pad assembly unit (as was the case on my previous Audi Q3). No doubt genuine BMW parts would cost more, plus dealer labour charges, but while X1 still within warranty period (UK 3 year unlimited mileage) I shall most likely just have to tolerate the dealer cost. Last edited by oakey46; 07-30-2020 at 04:42 AM.. |
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07-31-2020, 07:46 AM | #9 |
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I've just had to have the front and rear pads changed on my 2016 X1, at 31,200 miles, for the first time. I do mainly around town driving (~75%) with the rest being A-roads etc. None of it is "spirited" driving I was a bit concerned that the discs/rotors might need replacing as well, as I could feel a bit of a lip, but the dealer said that they were fine for another set of pads, which is a relief.
The dealer charged £260 for the parts (front and rear pads, sensors, grease, cleaning fluid etc.), and £250 labour!? Annoyingly I am giving the car back in about 3 months so this wasn't the best time for the brake warnings to start... The pads were down to about 3mm apparently, which was enough to trigger the warnings. New they are around 12mm thick. |
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07-31-2020, 10:30 AM | #10 |
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Oakey46: Even if your car is still under warranty you still don't have to do the brakes with the dealer. I would also change the pads and the rotors as some mechanics recommend doing this. I did some research and found the pads and rotors for about $700 Canadian which is about £350 for front and back and there are 2 sensors that you require, one for the front brakes and one and one for the back brakes. They cost about $50 Can for both. Labour should be about $100 for one hour per corner max which would be $400 max at an independant garage. Should be about the same in the UK or about £400 too although I don't know the hourly rate in the UK. For Clive, I would just replace the pads. You can go with the Akenobo pads, I hear they're available at a good price and again use an independant garage. One important note: An independent garage may charge less to change the rotors and pads than £400 too.
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07-31-2020, 02:29 PM | #11 |
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Xorbitman, thanks.
There is a BMW specialist service garage that my son (who lives approx 50 miles away from me) has used and where original BMW parts are fitted. He had a misfire on one cylinder of his previous 1 Series and because it was out of warranty the dealer wanted £70 just to diagnose, which wouldn’t be offset against the overall cost, even though it would have had to be connected to the diagnostic socket to confirm which cylinder coil had failed. He declined to pay, but a pal had an OBDII tool that he used and indicated which coil it was. The specialist outfit had the coil in stock, plugged the car into their diagnostic and switched the duff unit to another cylinder to confirm. They then replaced the unit and the overall charge was just over £200. So it might be worth getting a quote from him, or someone closer to me, for the pads replacement. |
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08-01-2020, 11:53 PM | #12 |
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Sounds like a plan...I would recommend that as it seems reasonable and you know that the work will be done to spec and you won't waste time either as brakes are pretty straight forward.
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09-07-2020, 05:28 PM | #14 |
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Just adding to this knowledgebase for Australia
2016 X1 25i xDrive (=28i Nth America) 71,000km — service indicator said new brake pads due in 2,500km Arranged replacement via independent BMW tech Replaced F&R pads, rotors, fluid flush and bleed Zimmerman rotors fitted F&R. ATE ceramic brake pads fitted F&R $AUD700 fitted — front $AUD600 fitted — rear
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09-08-2020, 07:01 AM | #15 |
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I own a 2018 X1 sDrive.
I changed the front pads/sensor only at 43,000 miles. I didn’t change the rotors because my mechanic said they’re fine. My brake indicator light came on and that’s the reason I changed the pads/sensor. I’ll be changing my rear pads/sensor out here within the next 400 miles since my car is alerting me. What’s the deal with the rear DIY? Do I need to buy anything special or let my mechanic know something? Last edited by Jmhockey1920; 09-08-2020 at 07:20 AM.. |
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I had my front rotors resurfaced at only 8k. At 17k, rear pads were replaced. Now approaching 22k, I think it's time for the front pads. I drive agressively, but don’t think I'm TOO hard on the brakes...?
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09-13-2020, 01:17 AM | #18 |
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I purchased an extended Maintenance Package which includes brakes, belts, wipers, filters, and oil changes. Doing the math, I should save a lot on changing wear and tear parts and labor.
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10-20-2020, 09:57 AM | #19 |
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I changed both front and rear on 42000 Km because of the warning light. I think it is too early if I compare it with another cars which I was driving. |
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10-20-2020, 10:24 AM | #20 |
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Just did front pads yesterday after 28000miles with an amber cautious on the vehicle status page. So the sensor (left inside pad) touches at 4mm. But the outside pad still got 8mm, so it’s pretty uneven bite, make sure if u visual checking, check the inside pad. Front Left Front Right |
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10-20-2020, 01:07 PM | #21 |
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When I bought my CPO 2018 X1, it had just over 19,000km on it. And the service records showed that the dealership replaced the front rotors and pads for the car pass certification.
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11-24-2020, 09:57 AM | #22 |
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I just checked the wife's X1 when swapping to winters, and the inside pad looks really really thin. I'm actually surprised that the sensor didn't trip yet. I've gotten pads from brake overstock before on ebay. They are actually a store called Callahan that is out of Illinois and I have used their brakes on many many cars. Their hardware seems very good, and the price is super low. I managed to get a closeout deal on 4 rotors, 2 sets of ceramic pads, and 2 sensors all for... $80 USD shipped. They told me they only had a few left which is why it was cheap. Also that they do not have stock for the fronts anymore for a bit (I wanted to go with drilled or slotted for the looks haha). I'm not complaining for the bargain I got, I'll be doing a front brake job in the next week or so. The rears look like they have a lot of life still, but I might just change it all while I'm at it so I can get another 40+K miles and 4 years out of it.
*Update* I had some time so I did the front brakes. The rotors themselves were in pretty decent shape, almost the same thickness as the new rotors I got from brake overstock. The sensors they provided were also pretty much OEM. I got lazy and reused the stock sensor. The inside pad was literally starting to rub the sensor, so I think I got to it just in time. I figure might as well keep it all OEM and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can always use the sensor again if I ever wear it down enough to trip it. The rear pads have enough life on it I'll wait for another day to do the rears, my old back can't handle this job and clearing all the ice and snow from the latest storm. Off the top of my head for DIY'ers. The driver's side is the side with the sensor. If you have to unplug the sensor, looks like you need to lift up part of the splash shield to get to it (also partially why I didn't bother swapping to a new one). The bolts holding the caliper on was 18mm The size of the caliper slide pins was 12mm on the outside, and 17mm wrench on the inside to hold it steady. I did one side by taking the slide pins etc all off, the other side I was lazy and just took the entire caliper off and did it all fully assembled. Can't remember the size of the one Allen bolt holding the rotor on. It was my second to largest key in my metric set though, and I didn't have that size in my "tool bit" impact socket kit. All pads are pretty much identical "EXCEPT" the one inside pad you need to put the sensor on, there's a slightly different size of the slot to put the sensor in.. so look carefully at the pads! Rear brakes.. I was looking if bimmercode could put the rear parking brakes into service mode, which it doesn't look like it. I have a bunch of things and I don't see that anything can do it (icarly looked like it might but then didn't list the X1 it said "test to see if it works") Plus I don't have an icarly adapter specifically. Still you can manually take it apart I'm sure like all electronic parking brakes. Last edited by rice_rocket88; 12-06-2020 at 04:44 PM.. |
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