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      11-15-2019, 02:23 PM   #133
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I'm seriously considering a X2 m35 but these issues sounds like a big concern.

Do you guys think is an issue with the majority of X2 or just some? I test drove 2 x2 m35 so far. The first time it was a real blast as I was pushing it in sport mode and didn't feel any lag. The second time it was fun too, the only lag I felt was a tiny lag on shifting from 3rd to 4th gear using the paddles. It just happened ones so I didn't think much about it but know I'm wondering if it is related to what you are all experiencing.

I really want a fun suv to drive for my wife and the X3 m40 is just above what I'm willing to spend.

With all the issues you guys are having would you have gotten an X3 30i instead?
If you routinely drive in stop-and-go and situations with a lot of slow turns that need a good deal of quick and responsive acceleration, I highly advise you incorporate those scenarios into your test drive. I sure wish I would've.
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      11-15-2019, 08:44 PM   #134
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X3 30i is boring as hell. I had one as a loaner and I couldn’t wait to get the hell out of it.
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      11-15-2019, 11:24 PM   #135
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NICE! I too am coming from an F80 and live in the NY / LI area. We have a local Tri-State BMW F80 group that gets together often if you're interested. There's even a WhatsApp chat group
Hit me up next time you run. I used to run with a group we started back on the e60.net days. Now i mostly run with P cars but would gladly meet up
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      11-26-2019, 10:37 PM   #136
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Same problem with Mini Countryman JCW

Looks like the Mini version of the M35i has the same throttle response problem. And the reviewers also mentioned the wiper speed issue.

Fast forward to 4:43.
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      11-27-2019, 06:33 AM   #137
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It’s all cars on this platform, the others just don’t have the acceleration so it’s less obvious. I think a transmission flash is in order
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      11-27-2019, 10:48 AM   #138
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Looks like the Mini version of the M35i has the same throttle response problem. And the reviewers also mentioned the wiper speed issue.

Fast forward to 4:43.
Saw that video and was like...omg it's not only us! They need to do something. Also, this car cuts power in 1st gear with TCs active...you don't know it because the light doesn't flash but you can feel it.
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      11-27-2019, 12:01 PM   #139
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Can you see it on the power gage? Would be interesting to do 2 pulls and see
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Looks like the Mini version of the M35i has the same throttle response problem. And the reviewers also mentioned the wiper speed issue.

Fast forward to 4:43.
Nice. I'm glad to see it documented here in this video. It continues to be a major problem for me on a daily basis.
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      11-27-2019, 01:28 PM   #141
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I agree it is an issue in Comfort mode. In Sport setting it just jumps, no issue there. Obviously this is a known issue for BMW.

I haven’t tried Eco mode, assume a lag also exists in that setting. Wonder if this is a built in fuel economy method.
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      11-27-2019, 03:19 PM   #142
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      11-27-2019, 07:50 PM   #143
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It’s all cars on this platform, the others just don’t have the acceleration so it’s less obvious. I think a transmission flash is in order
I agree completely!
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Looks like the Mini version of the M35i has the same throttle response problem. And the reviewers also mentioned the wiper speed issue.
Hey! At 5:35 they say the Mini's heads-up display shows a tach! Boo!
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I sent off another e-mail to the BMW Owner's site about the throttle response. Had it happen in slippery conditions today, and it was more than just annoying.
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I sent off another e-mail to the BMW Owner's site about the throttle response. Had it happen in slippery conditions today, and it was more than just annoying.
Happened to me also in the rain today and it was pretty scary.
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      12-02-2019, 12:43 AM   #147
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sofyan talks about the delay from around the 23minute mark. hope BMW fixes this.

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      12-02-2019, 10:05 AM   #148
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Will do! Not sure what I'm going to bring to the next bear mountain run. Probably the M235 vert
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Happened to me also in the rain today and it was pretty scary.
I was trying to change lanes in traffic and there was a good three seconds before the car kicked down. I don't need full throttle and a blast of torque just enough to push me into the next lane. I now exclusively drive in manual mode.
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Happened to me also in the rain today and it was pretty scary.
I was trying to change lanes in traffic and there was a good three seconds before the car kicked down. I don't need full throttle and a blast of torque just enough to push me into the next lane. I now exclusively drive in manual mode.
Same here. Manual mode is the only way I can trust the car.
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I've been wondering if the issue is that it's coasting in 3rd gear, so the lack of response is similar to how a manual would feel in 3rd under the same circumstances. It's not high enough that it starts to stutter or anything (as it would in a manual), and since it's an auto it just sort of disengages while it downshifts. Then it finds the gear and off you go. It seems like when you're in sport "sharp" (i.e. M/S), it aggressively downshifts to first gear, but I don't think it does that in any other mode (even regular sport) on a consistent basis (unless you come to a full stop). I've started using the paddle shifter to make sure I'm in first gear, even in regular sport, to test the theory in different situations. I was also going to ask the Bimmercode guy if he could program the dash display to say which gear you're in, even when you're in the regular drive modes not displayed with M and S (like D1, D2, etc.). If so, you could definitely track the gearing and see if there's a consistent pattern...
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      12-02-2019, 03:35 PM   #152
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Please update us if there are other things in the display that can be coded.. so far very limited options compared to other BMW huds.
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      12-02-2019, 04:02 PM   #153
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I've been wondering if the issue is that it's coasting in 3rd gear, so the lack of response is similar to how a manual would feel in 3rd under the same circumstances. It's not high enough that it starts to stutter or anything (as it would in a manual), and since it's an auto it just sort of disengages while it downshifts. Then it finds the gear and off you go. It seems like when you're in sport "sharp" (i.e. M/S), it aggressively downshifts to first gear, but I don't think it does that in any other mode (even regular sport) on a consistent basis (unless you come to a full stop). I've started using the paddle shifter to make sure I'm in first gear, even in regular sport, to test the theory in different situations. I was also going to ask the Bimmercode guy if he could program the dash display to say which gear you're in, even when you're in the regular drive modes not displayed with M and S (like D1, D2, etc.). If so, you could definitely track the gearing and see if there's a consistent pattern...
That's a very interesting and plausible theory.
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      12-03-2019, 09:48 AM   #154
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So, Schöne Grüße from Bimmercode said he can't do the coding I described (I'm going to add an optimistic "yet" to his response). Also, I happened to get a call from BMW yesterday doing the satisfaction follow-up thing and I made a point of saying I loved the car but the throttle response issue needs to be addressed. I brought up this specific forum and thread as well as the videos folks have been posting as evidence there's an issue out there that needs attention. If my theory is correct, then a reflash could simply tell other driving modes to aggressively downshift, not just the top one, which would be an easy fix. You could keep the slow engagement for eco mode only. I could see engineers thinking that aggressive downshifting might be offputing to many drivers so they choose to ease-in instead. But clearly, many of us would prefer sure-action throttle response and be very willing to give up a smoother stopping/slowing experience...
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