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I feel like people are forgetting that most of these Miatas you see on track are modified, some heavily. Obviously it's a great track car because lower consumable wear rate and cost.
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06-24-2022, 01:41 AM | #68 | |
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the bright side for manufacturers is you can do all this to a popular chassis that will sell to masses like a camaro or mustang. so you can offset the cost of a zl1 or gt500 by selling a bunch of base 4 cylinder convertibles. porsche does this with 911s, bmw does it with the 3 series. you can't really sell alot of cars the size of a miata to offset the cost of a high performance model. most people cannot afford to have a pure toy with zero practicality. if you want z1l lap times with something the size of a miata you will be spending 2-3x more money.
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06-24-2022, 06:52 AM | #70 |
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F80 is the master of all trades. We can close this tread now.
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06-24-2022, 07:53 AM | #72 |
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Naw man, you're not understanding me, I prefer lightweight and small cars, that's my *own* personal preference. I couldn't care less about cars that go the Bentley/Bugatti route, or even as you say the 1LE, it's still a heavy car to me.
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Light weight and chuckable is great, that's why in the end I went 997 rather than Mustang, but the idea a stock Miata (similar driving skills) can hang with a 1LE is fantasy, long straight or not. |
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What happened to the guy who posted that on a road course the Miata wins Maybe after I posted some actual lap times he is reconsidering his life choices |
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But that's not where you started. You started referring to all of these cars as "straight line" or "muscle cars". They are not. C8 is not, along with many of the ones you were discussing. Yes, we get that you like a lightweight sports car, that's great, but you don't seem to understand that there are more cars than miatas that are not intended for straight-line speed.
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Anyway, I don't wanna derail this thread anymore than it has, suffice to say we're not talking about the same thing.
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Years ago, I talked to the Dodge suspension engineers with their SRT-8 Grand Cherokee. They emptied out everything behind the front seats, changed the springs and put massive 325 Pirelli's. That thing lapped Hallett at speeds you wouldn't believe. It was truly incredible what those guys did. Kind of like the Honda team that through a ridiculous turbo V6 in a minivan to compete . |
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