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It is good to hear you are still looking for a good bike. Keep an open mind and look harder, there are always good begginer motorcycles to be had at good prices. There is a big difference between the F4i and 600RR. The 600RR has a more aggresive riding postion, more power, pretty much everything is much more race focused, but that doesn't mean the F4i isn't. A few years ago the F4i was the equivalent of the 600rr. In the end the decision lies with you. I'm just trying to help because i know how much good advice can really mean. |
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05-10-2010, 01:48 PM | #68 | |
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All that is pretty much true. The fact that someone rides a 1000cc bike or learned in a big SS bike and they are fine does not mean that they have honed all the necessary skills to ride a motorcycle properly. Yes, there are different riding styles out there, cruising, knee dragging, twisting the throttle in the straights, but when I talk about skill I talk about the set of skills that every rider should have. Like being good at avoiding accidents, improving reaction time, being able to control the bike in difficult circumstances, avoid obstacles and doing emergency maneuvers. Also include the visual skills like being able to pick up information about your surroundings, the surface you are riding on and reference points with your peripheral vision without having to take your eyes from where you want to go. That's fine, pretty much anyone can get in any bike and ride it. But the question is, are they riding that bike properly? Regardless of the bike, be it a SS, a small displacement bike, a cruiser or a chopper, you need those skills to be able to avoid accidents and live to ride another day. That's what I call riding a bike properly.
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rather then lowering a bike, you can do what my friend did. He shaved his seat a bit so he would not have to mess with the bikes overall, plus its cheaper.
Though a bike can be lowered to improve performance. If you research and set the motorcycles height equivalent to what it should be for your height and weight it can actually help you out in performance. im 6 1 and i can easily flat foot all bikes. But i believe the way most bikes come are set for ppl who are 5 11 and weight 150 pounds. Not too sure about that tho, did read on it somewhere. Razzy would you know anything about this? |
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I will take your words as you seem to be physically same as me 5.7' hgt and 140lbs.... I would definitely like a ride where I can have both my feet touching to handle the bike better ..... |
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05-10-2010, 01:55 PM | #71 | |
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also i hate it when people on sport bikes would be going 70mph and slowing down to 15 to take a turn... |
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05-10-2010, 02:19 PM | #72 | |
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Also, going back to skills, I recommend riding in a variety of riding conditions. I personally like to practice in the rain since you are forced to be extra smooth, that pays off when you are riding in dry tarmac and nailing every corner with ease and smoothly. Everything flows. You never know what mother nature is going to throw at you, and other cage drivers too.
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Trooper, try looking for EX500 or Honda CBR600F3. Those are both bikes you have a better chance at handling.
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05-10-2010, 04:06 PM | #74 |
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I have almost no experience on bikes, but i want one of these...
1955 Triumph Trophy (500cc) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-...7?cmd=ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trium...QQcmdZViewItem 1955 sunbeam S7 (500cc) 1953 BMW R51/3 Anybody can get a crotch rocket and an asian girlfriend to ride on the back, but these bikes have true style.. |
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I'm going to go ahead and say what everybody else is saying. Get a small cc bike to start off with or a 650 vtwin. They're a lot more forgiving than a rr bike.
My first bike was a sv650, dropped it the first day, had that for 4 months. Traded it in for a brand new gsxr750. I wrecked that thing not 2 weeks later. Going into a corner 60-70mph, fixated on the gravel and lowsided. Screwed up my wrist (just now fully healed, accident happened almost a year ago) and road rash on my back. Considering the speed and the condition of the bike afterwards I was very lucky to walk away. Insurance paid off the bike, decided to get another 750, a used one this time. Determined not to have that happen again, I went to my first track day only after riding for 6 months. Now I've been riding for a year, been to 3 track days, gone through more bikes than I wish to, and currently ride a 08 gsxr 1000. Moral of the story is, if I hadn't been impatient and stuck with that sv650 a little longer, I wouldn't have had to go through the painful experience of wrecking and recovering from my injuries. Although it did force me to learn how to ride properly, quicker. And a vtwin will have more low end torque for city riding, which is easier for newbs. Get the 250 or sv, learn, grow, move on. A used one will hold its value just as well as the day you bought it. I gaurantee you there's going to be somebody asking these same questions next year. |
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you do learn a lot at track days. But I forgot everything and lost all my confidence over the winter riding break. Just starting now to pick back up
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Yeah, I cannot flat foot my R6 but I can still handle the beast.
My personal favorite is I ride with a guy out here who started on a SS bike and when we go to park I usually find 2 open spots, pull a u turn and park so I can just pull out. He tried it once and it turned into a 5 point turn!
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sorry to but I am looking at getting into a bike in the near future and having ridden 250s and 450s motocross/dirt bikes for about 5 years what would you guys recommend as my first bike?
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^ Same applies to you. You have some advantage over trooper since you already know how to steer a bike and you are obviously familiar with the controls. Start with something small and get in your comfort zone, get familiar with the dynamics of street riding. You might not have to spend as much time in a small bike and be able to move on faster but till you know that for sure just go the safe route and start small.
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Okay some of you might flame me but whatever, I just want to share a story.
Ive always motox and ridden quads. So I was confident with my riding. My dad has a CBR 929 and i decided to take it out and ride around I took it on my block 1st and i felt no difference (tbh). So off i go to the highway and boy does that bike get moving fast!! 1st-3rd gear the front wheel will get off the ground about 2inches. It was one of the most amazing thrills in my teenage years The only thing i wasn't that comfy with was complete stops, I'm too short for a huge bike like that. I'd just lean off to my right side and just plant my right foot Ever since I've been addicted to ridding. I sometimes ride the 929 or some of my father's friends bikes; from ninja 250's and 600's with them to look after me in huge parking lots. Honestly I think that if you have experience on dirtbikes you're good to go. I'm not saying jump on a 929rr like i did. When i do get my own bike and ride frequently ill go no bigger than a 600. Go ahead and flame. |
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You asked for it. Here it goes... Now take it like a man. That is the perfect example of complete ignorance talking. You my friend, will become a statistic next time you get on that bike, and worst of all, you will not be around to see your father blame it all on himself for letting you ride that bike. You are another one of those guys that rides a bike once and call themselves decent riders and that they learned on a SS bike and they are fine. You got on the highway and twisted the throttle and the front wheel came off the ground and that was thrilling. You are just irresponsible, ignorant, have no consideration for others and don't value your life or the ones around you. Did you even know what that bike is capable of, how many laws you broke just doing that stupid stunt, riding that bike for the first time. Did you even thought of the consequences? Were you wearing the proper motorcycle specific gear? or are you another squid getting ready to cover the front page and take your life and the ones of innocent people around you. To all the beginners here. Listen to what inexperience and ignorance make you do. Think about it. Do you really want to be this idiot? People looks after you in parking lots and you think you have some experience, you don't even realize what experience is. So go ahead and continue giving noobs like you that kind of advice. They will keep filling the statistics books just like you are about to do. You have been flamed, just wait for the other true riders here to follow and you will realize how stupid your decisions were. Hope you never do that again.
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