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The 2nd amendment was written over 200 years ago due to "the lingering resentment over the widespread efforts of the British to confiscate the colonists' firearms at the outbreak of the Revolutionary War." (source Wikipedia)
Honestly - does anyone here seriously feel that at some point in their life they'll need to need to take up arms against a foreign invader?? Tell me why an individual really needs to be able to own gun. Home invasion? A baseball bat will do. Protect yourself at a shootout in the Walmart parking lot? There wouldn't be a shootout if individuals weren't allowed to own guns. It's completely dumbfounding how selfish so many conservatives are because they prioritize their individual 'rights' above the greater good. Above the safety of innocent children. Society is about compromise. Everyone needs to give a little to make things work and make things better for all. No one should expect to get what they want 100% of the time.
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05-27-2022, 05:04 PM | #6008 |
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Careful, its getting political which the mods will end.
Anyway, went and put some rounds downrange with my Armalite Rifle today. Yep, doesn't stand for Assault Rifle.
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05-27-2022, 05:53 PM | #6009 | |
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Mandatory training, written, and firing tests. If you’re not accurate, you shouldn’t own one; Doctor’s note of mental health check; Waiting period minimum of 30 days; and, Extensive background check even for private sales. That’s just a start. It bothers me that there’s more paperwork to purchase a car than a firearm. |
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You are naive as hell if you think a baseball bat is going to do anything for you. It's apparent you are anti-2A, but this country was founded using firearms. It's engrained in the culture of this country. ….and stop blaming guns and gun owners for that tragedy in Texas. Disgusting! |
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I liked the way NJ went about it. Two references, about a 60 day waiting period, and all of the applications for FIDs (what you need to buy any gun) is reviewed by your local police department. Not much digs into your mental health, but a standardized psych evaluation by your doctor might suffice? That still does leave a blind spot for people who deteriorate mentally though it does seem that these people who carry out these attacks go on a buying spree right before the attacks…so the above could work. The reality is as someone else pointed out before, someone is going to like the changes, and someone else will not. However it seems the majority are ready for serious changes. In regards to age however, most of these mass shooters seem to be between 18-21, agreed it's not exclusive, but it can't hurt to wait for peoples brains to be completely developed can it?
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05-27-2022, 06:37 PM | #6015 | |
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My first firearm I purchased long ago. Just decided I was bored and wanted a gun. I was able to walk in, with no prior firearm experience, give them my ID, fill out a two page sheet, and I walked out with a Glock 26. Just scary to me. I’ve since worked with an instructor, taken many firearm classes, now have my conceal carry permit. To me, it should have been the other way around. I didn’t even know how to release the magazine or how to load it for Pete’s sake. As for 30 days as opposed to 10, it was just a number I threw out. However long it takes the dealer or whoever is selling to fully vet you would be sufficient. I don’t have all the answers, I just know in Louisiana it’s too easy to obtain a firearm. I would never sell a horse to someone who didn’t know how to handle a horse. That’s an accident waiting to happen. Why are guns any different? Not trying to start a war here. Just thinking out loud |
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Then again maybe not, the guy in Buffalo seems to have been planning for a very long time.
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05-27-2022, 07:27 PM | #6017 |
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Who's more ammo rich? Probably everyone but I'm feeling secure on 9mm anyway
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The idea about a psych evaluation sounds good on the surface, but ask anybody who has every gone through a psych evaluation (…cough…every police officer….cough), their conclusions are rarely ever in line. It's a subjective conclusion rather than an objective one. It will not fix the issue. These mass shootings that occur aren't cookie cutter. Some have clinically documented mental issues while others claim to have issues because it's convenient and/or is designed as a sympathetic petition to those who may be tasked with judgment (…e.g…jurors, the judge, etc.). Some use illegally obtained firearms and some use legally owned and/or possessed firearms. Some have temporary mental breakdowns because of a trauma and others are just evil people. There's no real rhyme or reason. |
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05-27-2022, 07:52 PM | #6020 | |
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As far as the ramifications go, I think about it daily. Car jackings in NOLA are insane. Recently here a woman’s arm was severed in a car jacking attempt and she died on scene. Louisiana has a “shoot the car jacker” law, which protects the victim (as it should). Louisiana is a stand your ground state with no duty to retreat. I have USCCA insurance. I hope to never have to pull the trigger, but in the event I fear for my life, or my child’s, etc., I will pull it. Again, I don’t have all the answers. I just hope anyone who is able to purchase a gun is physically and mentally capable of being a responsible gun owner. Easier said than done, I just hope some changes are made Last edited by Sara; 05-27-2022 at 08:28 PM.. |
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Speaking of, I wish the DMV had annual testing renewals or something. I swear the people down here make me wonder who passed them on their driving tests I was actually rear ended in April this year. An suv slammed into me while I was at a stop on the expressway. Driver “dozed off” as they stated to the police. It was 08:30. To me, if you’ve got a medical condition where you “doze off” while driving, you shouldn’t be permitted to be behind the wheel!! I was injured and my vehicle was moderately damaged. Their vehicle was totaled. Thankfully, I have youth on my side and good health and I’m fine now, but imagine if they had hit someone else instead of me, and killed that person… guns aren’t for everyone and neither is driving. Not everyone’s going to agree, but that’s just what I think. Last edited by Sara; 05-27-2022 at 09:54 PM.. Reason: Can’t spell, too tired to care |
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So... You guys that want restrictions on the 2nd Amendment, do you also want them on the 5th?, 4th?, 3rd, 10th or any of the other BILL OF RIGHTS?
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Until and unless congress passes a constitutional amendment deleting the 2nd A I am not in favor of any more restrictions on ownership or purchasing of firearms. For me the constitution IS a living document but only via the specific methods defined within it and the "death of a 1000 cuts" that gun banners are implementing makes all our rights less secure. And to date none of the suggestions ever passed in any state have done anything to make us safer.
Having said that, I'd be OK with secure background checks including linking mental health databases with the current federal background check. And we could stand to improve our nations mental health services. I can't claim I know answers to all of societies issues but it sure seems to me that school shootings would be better resolved with seriously secure campus settings and an armed response within each school. |
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They probably do. It's the same people who are okay with freedom of speech as long as it coincides with their own belief system(s). Anything less and it's deemed hate speech, racist, misinformation, xenophobic, etc. They shift the pendulum to fit their own criteria. Rights are equal across the board.
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The issue with mental health services is this: the government does not care. It's all empty rhetoric. Very little is done to deal with the issue. Much like the approach to curtailing crime, homelessness, etc., most of the implementation(s) is/are the equivalent using a band-aid for a cut that requires sutures. |
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Anyone else on here reload? I have a few pounds of a few different powders for various cartridges. I know the powder needs to be kept in a cool/dry place as moisture can have adverse effects on it, but I've always felt a bit weird or uneasy keeping it in the house, more specifically the safe. Especially with a newborn about a month away. Anyone else experience this anxiety? Or am I overthinking it?
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