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      07-07-2021, 04:17 PM   #353
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I'm not saying that's not true.

What i'm saying that's a market development that has nothing to do with how a new model looks.
Depends on how loyal the fan base is for a particular group of owners / enthusiasts. Like the "frog eyes" 996 or something similar.

Given that the 2er, and especially the M2, has become the "3er / M3 of old" and likely the last ICE-powered M car of this size, I am simply suggesting that this particular design might actually rise to that level.
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      07-07-2021, 04:25 PM   #354
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Per BMW, the F22 M240x is around 3,721lbs. The F22 M240x gained around 100lbs over the M235x largely due to the extra weight of the B58. The G42 M240x is about 150lbs heavier than the outgoing F22 M240x. I would assume the G42 M240i RWD automatic will be around 150lbs more than the F22 M240i RWD automatic (3,600lbs per BMW). Still WAY heavier than my slick top M235 6MT with a 1/2 tank of fuel at 3,370lbs!

I'm fairly good with this design, but I sure hope that M240 buyers in the US have the option to get body-colored side sills. If that weren't an option, I'd have them painted and would install the 230i rear bumper.

The punched out fenders are impressive. I have feeling that for the M2, the rear fenders will not be changed (save cost, the car is already quite wide) and that only the front fenders and bumper covers will be changed.

I'm certain this car will look better in person. I don't see it aging well though as it's not very organic. I do agree with many in this thread that the F22 could be pretty bland. There are only certain colors I like and the F22 needs a bit of help with the exterior. Once done though, it can be a timeless looker. The F23 convertible is terrible looking.
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I'm not saying that's not true.

What i'm saying that's a market development that has nothing to do with how a new model looks.
Depends on how loyal the fan base is to a particular group of owners / enthusiasts. Like the "frog eyes" 996 or something similar.

Given that the 2er, and especially the M2, has become the "3er / M3 of old" and likely the last ICE-powered M car of this size, I am simply suggesting that this particular design might actually rise to that level.
maybe… maybe not
time will tell and you might have a point there with the relation to the "oldschool Ms". But then again F80/F82 didn't and don't go up in value more than other cars in the current market even tho the new one's are "ugly" (i don't think they're too bad). Even tho there were 100s of "oh yeah thanks BMW my F8X will appreciate" posts.

my car is one of the last non-hybrid V8 of "it's kind" it seems like, but i'm not expecting my value to go up especially if i drive the sh*t out of it 🤷🏻
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Came here, saw the photo array, had a blah reaction. Interior looks great, but exterior...left me disinterested.

Just pulled up some YT vids showing it in motion and I think they're going to sell 10 million of them. It looks muscular in motion, the proportions are right, and it sounds great. Whatever I didn't see in photos, I definitely saw in the videos. And I even like the Thundernight Metallic color - looks amazing in both sunlight and shadows.

Two thumbs up from this F87 owner, and look at that interior! The factories won't be able to churn them out fast enough.

Edit - if its true that there’s no manual available at all that would be very disappointing.

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      07-07-2021, 04:49 PM   #357
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Came here, saw the photo array, had a blah reaction. Interior looks great, but exterior...left me disinterested.

Just pulled up some YT vids showing it in motion and I think they're going to sell 10 million of them. It looks muscular in motion, the proportions are right, and it sounds great. Whatever I didn't see in photos, I definitely saw in the videos. And I even like the Thundernight Metallic color - looks amazing in both sunlight and shadows.

Two thumbs up from this F87 owner, and look at that interior! The factories won't be able to churn them out fast enough.

Edit - if its true that there’s no manual available at all that would be very disappointing.
Agreed, the video got me excited for this car. The rear end looks much better in there.

And the manual will be available for the G87.
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I was bored, here's a modified version of the m240i.. Black accents, black wheels, tinted and lowered. Honestly I think this 2 series looks really good.
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      07-07-2021, 05:12 PM   #359
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hmm do you believe being that the 230 and the 240i xdrive are out first, the 240i coming out later... the 240i would have the idrive8 dash design directly.
The only person on the forum that might know that would be ynguldyn
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I was bored, here's a modified version of the m240i.. Black accents, black wheels, tinted and lowered. Honestly I think this 2 series looks really good.
I'm quite happy with how this looks!
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      07-07-2021, 05:18 PM   #361
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There are 4 19'' wheels, however once you pick the "M technic packet" which brings bigger calipers in front weels (amongst other cooling stuff i think), the available wheels is narrowed to just one.

Ironically seems that other of the 19'' wheels can work with those calipers, at least one. Since it's shown in the marketing material

All 4 wheels are 19'', is it probably a mistake in the configurator?

Saw it in german configurator and spanish one too.
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Yep

Can't wait to see them at Chapman BMW!

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Came here, saw the photo array, had a blah reaction. Interior looks great, but exterior...left me disinterested.

Just pulled up some YT vids showing it in motion and I think they're going to sell 10 million of them. It looks muscular in motion, the proportions are right, and it sounds great. Whatever I didn't see in photos, I definitely saw in the videos. And I even like the Thundernight Metallic color - looks amazing in both sunlight and shadows.

Two thumbs up from this F87 owner, and look at that interior! The factories won't be able to churn them out fast enough.

Edit - if its true that there’s no manual available at all that would be very disappointing.
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I was bored, here's a modified version of the m240i.. Black accents, black wheels, tinted and lowered. Honestly I think this 2 series looks really good.
Except you can't get it in mineral gray
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I passed on an opportunity to trade my 2018 M2 DCT for a 2021 M2C manual because I was going to get the new one when it came out, assuming there would be a stick.

Someone shoot me.
The new M2 should have a manual as an option. That's what I'm hoping at least!
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I was bored, here's a modified version of the m240i.. Black accents, black wheels, tinted and lowered. Honestly I think this 2 series looks really good.
Incredible.
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Personally I like the front of the car but the rear reminds me too of an economy car of the 2000's

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People need to remember that this dash design in the G42 is only for the 2022 model year.After that the G42 and G87 will both be getting the new idrive 8 dash design.Then people will forget about the exterior design and there will be 10 pages of another thread with people complaining about the dash.The G87 test mule pic shows the new flat screen.
I cannot in good conscience buy any car with a dash like that.
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The front resembles a BMW. The rear resembles any Japanese car. At least it has an ICE.
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I cannot in good conscience buy any car with a dash like that.
It’s definitely my biggest worry about the G87.I will reserve final judgment until i see it in person but i also don’t like the look of these stuck on the dash screens.
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I passed on an opportunity to trade my 2018 M2 DCT for a 2021 M2C manual because I was going to get the new one when it came out, assuming there would be a stick.

Someone shoot me.
The new M2 should have a manual as an option. That's what I'm hoping at least!
Already verified that it indeed will.
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I was bored, here's a modified version of the m240i.. Black accents, black wheels, tinted and lowered. Honestly I think this 2 series looks really good.
Awesome. Well done.
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Hey everyone are we really going to pretend that this isn't a step up…
How many of the base model F22s sold though? The majority of them sold down here were M-sport models. Most of the modern BMWs need the M-sport kit to look good, from bangle era onwards at least.
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Is that E36 Techno Violet?
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Well that's the only good thing really.
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I think it's a good continuation of the 2 series. And at the risk of being banned (like I was from G80 forums bc I was apparently "trolling" or whatever justification they used), I wish the G80 would have followed a bit closer to the older design and stayed closer to the traditional design as they did here. I'm pleased to see something closer to previous models. I guess I'm a Old fashion when it comes to Bmw

I'll have to wait for the M2 but as of right now it's pretty decent.


Censorship at it's finest

It's unfortunate that anybody got banned
It's okay, I'm not very interested in the G80. A few builds have come out pretty nice after mods.

I'd be willing to bet this forum got heat from someone in BMW. I've never seen anything like that before. But if fits in today's society.
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