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      05-25-2018, 07:51 PM   #67
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That's what GM says about BMW and now they're copying BMW.

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Sure sure sure....

But Mercedes drops BMW on it's head with their 45 variant !
And does BMW have a competitor for the gla45?
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But Mercedes drops BMW on it's head with their 45 variant !
And does BMW have a competitor for the gla45?
No and it's highly unlikely they will any time soon.
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No and it's highly unlikely they will any time soon.
I hope they never do, it would be as useless as the gla45. If you want a small fast SUV, you get a Stelvio Quadrifuglio.
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I hope they never do, it would be as useless as the gla45. If you want a small fast SUV, you get a Stelvio Quadrifuglio.
The Stelvio is in the same class as the X3, so that is not relevant here. Just like the standard Stelvio was not used as justification that BMW needn’t offer the X1 or X2, the performance model does not preclude a need for a X1 or X2 M.

I can assure you that product strategists inside BMW are not saying, “Meh, people who want a small fast SUV can just buy a Stelvio, so no need to worry”.
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No and it's highly unlikely they will any time soon.
I hope they never do, it would be as useless as the gla45. If you want a small fast SUV, you get a Stelvio Quadrifuglio.
That thing Is UGE and some people like a small awd car that moves like thunder when they need it to. The AMG 45 moves out like there is no tomorrow. It's a fast as a M2 in the rain.
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That thing Is UGE and some people like a small awd car that moves like thunder when they need it to. The AMG 45 moves out like there is no tomorrow. It's a fast as a M2 in the rain.
It should be a rocket with so much power. It's also very expensive. The problem with the GLA is that it's so cramped inside, particularly in the back. I'm not a particularly large person and my head is jammed into the corner of the side and roof. It's ridiculous. The X2 isn't a cavern inside like the X1, but it is much more comfortable in the back than the GLA.
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That thing Is UGE and some people like a small awd car that moves like thunder when they need it to. The AMG 45 moves out like there is no tomorrow. It's a fast as a M2 in the rain.
It should be a rocket with so much power. It's also very expensive. The problem with the GLA is that it's so cramped inside, particularly in the back. I'm not a particularly large person and my head is jammed into the corner of the side and roof. It's ridiculous. The X2 isn't a cavern inside like the X1, but it is much more comfortable in the back than the GLA.
I think all 3 are cramped.

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I think all 3 are cramped.

Point taken.
If by all 3, you are referring to the X1, X2 and GLA, of course, they are cramped relative to larger vehicles. They are "small" vehicles, after all. It all comes down to what you need and/or want. I don't need a rocket, because I have an M3, which I'm not planning to sell. I wanted a small economical AWD SUV, so I looked at all of the vehicles in this class. I drove X1, X2 and GLA. I picked the X2 because it was closest to what I wanted, in terms of overall size, interior size, etc. I didn't pick it because it's a rocket. It has enough power for sitting in traffic. The X1 has more interior room than I required. The GLA has less interior room than I require. The X2 is right in the middle. YMMV.
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I think all 3 are cramped.

Point taken.
GLA is definitely smaller interior wise than a X1. Also, the quadrifuglio is much faster. For 65k, it doesn’t matter how fast the 0-60 is, the engine is placed the wrong way and it is out of balance when you throw it into corners. Usual AMG problem just escalated with a worse setup.
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