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View Poll Results: Your Super Tuesday Choice?
Bernie 9 14.52%
Biden 11 17.74%
Warren 2 3.23%
Bloomberg 6 9.68%
Buttigieg 7 11.29%
Klobashar 1 1.61%
other (please explain) 8 12.90%
Fozzy the Bear 18 29.03%
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      03-03-2020, 07:57 AM   #67
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I was going to suggest Vermin Supreme. He's a perennial favorite.
If I found myself unable to support either candidate in a general I could see going with Vermin Supreme. The man has a style about him to say the least.
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If I found myself unable to support either candidate in a general I could see going with Vermin Supreme. The man has a style about him to say the least.
He is highly underrated and should be given a hard look.
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I voted for Biden. On a sidenote, I didn't have to do anything special to vote on the Democratic primary. I didn't have to learn how to be gay, or promise to never shoot a gun again.

It was strange to see every original democratic contender still on the ballot. Biden was on the second page. I wonder if the order is different for every voter?
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I voted for Biden. On a sidenote, I didn't have to do anything special to vote on the Democratic primary. I didn't have to learn how to be gay, or promise to never shoot a gun again.

It was strange to see every original democratic contender still on the ballot. Biden was on the second page. I wonder if the order is different for every voter?
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I voted for Biden. On a sidenote, I didn't have to do anything special to vote on the Democratic primary. I didn't have to learn how to be gay, or promise to never shoot a gun again.

It was strange to see every original democratic contender still on the ballot. Biden was on the second page. I wonder if the order is different for every voter?
I wondered about that. All these folks seem to be dropping out for the "good of the party" but do it so close to super Tuesday that they are still on the ballet. How many will still vote for them? That will be interesting and you'll never know who those votes would have went to had they not bee there.

#theplotthickens
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I wondered about that. All these folks seem to be dropping out for the "good of the party" but do it so close to super Tuesday that they are still on the ballet. How many will still vote for them? That will be interesting and you'll never know who those votes would have went to had they not bee there.

#theplotthickens
Because they can't change the ballot, in part with all the vote-by-mail. People here is Cali who mail-voted for someone who dropped out have been calling registrar trying to change their vote, but so far voter fraud is being avoided.

This is why Yang is top of my list. . .
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Because they can't change the ballot, in part with all the vote-by-mail. People here is Cali who mail-voted for someone who dropped out have been calling registrar trying to change their vote, but so far voter fraud is being avoided.

This is why SHE is top of my list. . .
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^...using 2016 election polling data...does that help or hurt when trying to make a point?
but Andre Maginot would have approved of RD's logic
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Anyone starting to feel that the current Democrat primary is like the beginning of a bar joke?

A communist, a billionaire, and a man suffering early stages of dementia walk into a polling place......


Seriously? The party of 'inclusiveness' and 'tolerance' - the party of women, young folks and minorities, the party of the working class and the poor - yet who are the 3 leading candidates?

3 old white men who will all celebrate their 80th birthday in the white house if elected and who all are worth either millions or billions of dollars.


Bunch of raging hypocrites.

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Are you being serious?

Realistically - it is probably going to be Biden. It was always going to be Biden.
Contested convention and HRC is picked.
contested convention, Biden nominated on the second vote, two weeks later Biden hangs himself from his bunk, HRC swoops in to save the day, 99% of Bernie supporters end up voting for Trump in order to give the DNC the finger, Trump wins.
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Anyone starting to feel that the current Democrat primary is like the beginning of a bar joke?

A communist, a billionaire, and a man suffering early stages of dementia walk into a polling place......


Seriously? The party of 'inclusiveness' and 'tolerance' - the party of women, young folks and minorities, the party of the working class and the poor - yet who are the 3 leading candidates?

3 old white men who will all celebrate their 80th birthday in the white house if elected and who all are worth either millions or billions of dollars.


Bunch of raging hypocrites.

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contested convention, Biden nominated on the second vote, two weeks later Biden hangs himself from his bunk, HRC swoops in to save the day, 99% of Bernie supporters end up voting for Trump in order to give the DNC the finger, Trump wins.
Ah yes. The Dangle and Swoop. Well played, sir. Well played.
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but Andre Maginot would have approved of RD's logic
Build that line, build that line. Oh, wait....
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The basic operational premise of the DNC is flawed. They aren't a political party. They are a collective masquerading as a political party. They are made up of factions with an, "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude focused, now, on Donald Trump. We can clearly see that when they are left to their own devices, as we have now, they are the most spiteful and back-stabbing group of people on the planet.

Witness:

Black and Brown won't support Buttiege because he is gay but run to one of the two oldest guys there. One promising free stuff and the other because of his affiliation to Mr. Obama. WTF?!?!!

Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, MeToo, etc: Won't support the women in the group but run to a man who said Women Like Rape and the other responsible for some of the most cringeworthy interactions with young girls and women in the history of the internet. Really?!?!!

The DNC, itself: Rigged primaries. Super Delegates. Questions sent to favorited candidates. Arrayed against Bernie, RIGHT NOW!!

The Media: Yes. The Media. Objectivity left long ago. Does anyone think this hasn't been noticed by the electorate?!?!!

These may be seen as oversimplifications by some but they are endemic of the problem the DNC has. The inmates are in charge of the asylum. Nothing good can come of this and if they don't get it under control, it will signify the end of the DNC in it's current form.

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As a fairly neutral guy, none of these turkeys will beat the big orange turkey Trump. But from these lot, i'd go with Bloomberg. He ran NY city, and he doesn't seem like the loon that Bernard Sanders is.
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My choices, in order are:

Megatron. This requires no explanation.
Vermin Supreme. Everyone should have a pony.

None of the current DNC panel, culled though it may be, is electable.

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The basic operational premise of the DNC is flawed. They aren't a political party. They are a collective masquerading as a political party. They are made up of factions with an, "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude focused, now, on Donald Trump. We can clearly see that when they are left to their own devices, as we have now, they are the most spiteful and back-stabbing group of people on the planet.

Witness:

Black and Brown won't support Buttiege because he is gay but run to one of the two oldest guys there. One promising free stuff and the other because of his affiliation to Mr. Obama. WTF?!?!!

Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, MeToo, etc: Won't support the women in the group but run to a man who said Women Like Rape and the other responsible for some of the most cringeworthy interactions with young girls and women in the history of the internet. Really?!?!!

The DNC, itself: Rigged primaries. Super Delegates. Questions sent to favorited candidates. Arrayed against Bernie, RIGHT NOW!!

The Media: Yes. The Media. Objectivity left long ago. Does anyone think this hasn't been noticed by the electorate?!?!!

These may be seen as oversimplifications by some but they are endemic of the problem the DNC has. The inmates are in charge of the asylum. Nothing good can come of this and if they don't get it under control, it will signify the end of the DNC in it's current form.

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All good points.

The DNC is the political equivalent of a bunch of scumbag tort lawyers. Their "vision" is: Find a bunch of people who think they've been fucked-over. Better yet, convince a bunch of people that they've been fucked-over. Convince them that you're their only hope for being made whole. Then confiscate a bunch of money from one or more groups of "other," "bad" people. And give 10% of the money to the people who were allegedly fucked-over.

And this is vision? This is leadership? No. That's a Complaint Department. A "suggestion box" mounted over an outhouse.
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Black and Brown won't support Buttiege because he is gay...
Check out this piece on that topic. Note the author's ironic last name, too.
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All good points.

The DNC is the political equivalent of a bunch of scumbag tort lawyers. Their "vision" is: Find a bunch of people who think they've been fucked-over. Better yet, convince a bunch of people that they've been fucked-over. Convince them that you're their only hope for being made whole. Then confiscate a bunch of money from one or more groups of "other," "bad" people. And give 10% of the money to the people who were allegedly fucked-over.

And this is vision? This is leadership? No. That's a Complaint Department. A "suggestion box" mounted over an outhouse with a giant airplane propeller underneath to make sure it gets splattered everywhere.
You left out the most important part!!

Very succinct summation of the state of the DNC!
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The basic operational premise of the DNC is flawed. They aren't a political party. They are a collective masquerading as a political party. They are made up of factions with an, "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude focused, now, on Donald Trump. We can clearly see that when they are left to their own devices, as we have now, they are the most spiteful and back-stabbing group of people on the planet.

Witness:

Black and Brown won't support Buttiege because he is gay but run to one of the two oldest guys there. One promising free stuff and the other because of his affiliation to Mr. Obama. WTF?!?!!

Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, MeToo, etc: Won't support the women in the group but run to a man who said Women Like Rape and the other responsible for some of the most cringeworthy interactions with young girls and women in the history of the internet. Really?!?!!

The DNC, itself: Rigged primaries. Super Delegates. Questions sent to favorited candidates. Arrayed against Bernie, RIGHT NOW!!

The Media: Yes. The Media. Objectivity left long ago. Does anyone think this hasn't been noticed by the electorate?!?!!

These may be seen as oversimplifications by some but they are endemic of the problem the DNC has. The inmates are in charge of the asylum. Nothing good can come of this and if they don't get it under control, it will signify the end of the DNC in it's current form.

Cheers-mk

Lets contrast and compare:

Republicans
Historically (at least since Ron Reagan):
- you have to be ferverntly against abortion to be electable. No wiggle room. And no way for 100% of women to get the birth control they need.

- you have to be ferverently pro-NRA or you are a complete no go and probably a wanna be dictator.

and now:
You must support Trump. You must want a wall. You think CNN and the rest of the real media are fake news. Ukraines govt is out to get the US. Russia is an ally. Trade alliances are bad, only bilateral trade agreements are good. NATO is bad. China is paying the tariffs. Mexico is paying for the wall. Trumps lies are bad but his policies are ok, or Trump is a genius. People were bussed in from elsewhere to vote for HRC. Coronavirus will go away when things warm up. etc, etc, etc.

Dems look ok after reading what the GOP and Trump are all about.
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Check out this piece on that topic. Note the author's ironic last name, too.
Interesting piece. I think he is understating the problem in a massive fashion. As in most polling, the targets wish to appear more sophisticated while responding but in secrecy, would definitely answer something different. The situation of gayness in the, "black community" (a term I hate but will use in this case) is one of discordance in the very least and outright hostility at it's highest forms of expression.

The number of black men on what is called, "The Down-Low"...men with families who have secret homosexual tendencies is shocking and almost taboo to speak of.

While this is only an N=1 situation, I was speaking to a young lady in Dallas recently who messaged me on a dating app and she only had 3 questions: Are you really single? Are you employed? Are you 100% straight. That the last question would pop up for her (as well as for her friends) was a complete shock to me but apparently not one that could always engender a true response. She now has to add another question to her system: Are you a Trump supporter? LOL!! Back to the thesis...

Further, the fact that these gay males aren't available to form a traditional nuclear family in the black community isn't looked upon favorably, as well. It is literally a lose-lose situation.

For Mr. Blow to say that it isn't an issue is both naive and inaccurate. I have several black friends who are as Blue as a democrat could possibly be and categorically refused to even consider Mayor Pete for this very reason. I won't repeat what was said in this forum for fear of being banned.

It's an issue in the black community and it isn't going away.

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Lets contrast and compare:

Republicans
Historically (at least since Ron Reagan):
- you have to be ferverntly against abortion to be electable. No wiggle room. And no way for 100% of women to get the birth control they need.

- you have to be ferverently pro-NRA or you are a complete no go and probably a wanna be dictator.

and now:
You must support Trump. You must want a wall. You think CNN and the rest of the real media are fake news. Ukraines govt is out to get the US. Russia is an ally. Trade alliances are bad, only bilateral trade agreements are good. NATO is bad. China is paying the tariffs. Mexico is paying for the wall. Trumps lies are bad but his policies are ok, or Trump is a genius. People were bussed in from elsewhere to vote for HRC. Coronavirus will go away when things warm up. etc, etc, etc.

Dems look ok after reading what the GOP and Trump are all about.
But, but, but...what about WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
For a Republican you certainly seem to defend the DNC quite fervently.

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