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      02-19-2018, 11:25 AM   #67
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Yes I think Trevor Noah is funny in which the daily show is about comedy. It brings politics in form of comedy attraction for viewers to enjoy except for the Trump fans.

You have a damn lack of reading comprehension. The OP was degrading the GenX, BB , and SG generations whom lived in the scumbag times that are currently in control and running our country. Millennials are merely the results of a transitioning culture ie your just the lubrication. Your dying off so damn fast you will have no relevance as a rival to the GenX. #WeCallBS is the GenZ in the OP who break the cycle of the scumbag times.
Jackass, I am a millennial, I'm 27 years old. Also I do Crossfit so I'll probably live forever.

"This generation which has no ties to a fucked up dark era of the early to mid 1900s will make a difference for the future of America"

Oh, they will make a difference alright. We'll probably end up with a socialist like that dementiated moron Bernie.
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Hannity not so much, but I've always had a lot of respect for Laura Ingraham - very smart, and well-researched.
I tried watching her last week. About 5 minutes in, I couldn't take the massive Trump propagandist and had to switch. Maybe she was off that night?
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It wasn't us who caused the 08 recession nor got mixed up in the afghan/iraqi quagmire.....

Point one finger at someone else and you have 4 more pointing back...
Because you were too...young?

It was this generation that dragged the recovery out for 8 years, and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq/Afghan.....
Define victory for us again please? Was it "they will cheer us in the streets and welcome tanks in with open arms" hah

Oh yea it was the millennials who got us in that mess right? The same mess that then lead to economic crash of 08 and our endless fight against IS
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Define victory for us again please? Was it "they will cheer us in the streets and welcome tanks in with open arms" hah

Oh yea it was the millennials who got us in that mess right? The same mess that then lead to economic crash of 08 and our endless fight against IS
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Define victory for us again please? Was it "they will cheer us in the streets and welcome tanks in with open arms" hah

Oh yea it was the millennials who got us in that mess right? The same mess that then lead to economic crash of 08 and our endless fight against IS
Sentence much?
Too much or too little? Hey I'm no millenial so don't blame them for me
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Haha good one. We will have 7 different gender bathrooms and snowflake slap fights in the streets.
Agreed!! This is a generation of overly emotional man\women who are still mentally children. Also doesn't help that a large percentage of them practically jack off to Marxism.
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Jackass, I am a millennial, I'm 27 years old. Also I do Crossfit so I'll probably live forever.

"This generation which has no ties to a fucked up dark era of the early to mid 1900s will make a difference for the future of America"

Oh, they will make a difference alright. We'll probably end up with a socialist like that dementiated moron Bernie.
We already have a “dementiated” moron in office. (Thats not a word btw)
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Then America is in serious trouble. A generation that has no ideology, can't think for itself, folds under the smallest pressure, has no respect for authority, etc. etc. is going to turn America into a Utopia? That sounds like the hippies of the 60s that were going to let free love and drugs rule the world. How did that work out?
America was already in serious trouble

The Hippy dream came into play, whatcha talkin bout ? Did you forget about the legalization of Cannabis ? When your high yes the state of consciousness is in Utopia

Former Ravers from the GenX were merely the off shoot of the hippy era that helped push for the legalization of cannabis, same sex marriage, and uni sex bathrooms etc all the shit Bible thumpers from the scumbag times had nightmares about. The shit was already in play, GenZ will just be the inheritors of a mess that will be left for them.
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Jackass, I am a millennial, I'm 27 years old. Also I do Crossfit so I'll probably live forever.

"This generation which has no ties to a fucked up dark era of the early to mid 1900s will make a difference for the future of America"

Oh, they will make a difference alright. We'll probably end up with a socialist like that dementiated moron Bernie.
I already knew you were a Millennial. Like I said Millennials are merely the results of a transitioning culture ie your the lubrication.

"This generation...." I was talking about GenZ which represents #WeCallBS , not Millennials. Next time breath before responding to a post.
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I already knew you were a Millennial. Like I said Millennials are merely the results of a transitioning culture ie your the lubrication.

"This generation...." I was talking about GenZ which represents #WeCallBS , not Millennials. Next time breath before responding to a post.
I found a glimpse into your future Gen Z paradise, minus all the non-PC portions of course:

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Haha good one. We will have 7 different gender bathrooms and snowflake slap fights in the streets.
It's completely out of control. Even for my liberal "do whatever makes you happy" ass.

Had a birthday dinner last night for my wife and got into a debate with my millennial brother's late 20-something girlfriend about how her college is trying to ban "he/she" gender references and replace them with some new "Ze" and "Zer" bullsh*t. The main take-away was that students wanted to be identified not by what gender they ARE, but by what gender (or lack there of) they FEEL. Apparently there was a brief period where you were supposed to use "They" instead of "him or her" because that accepted that someone could be one, the other, or both. But unfortunately, "They" is already taken by people with multiple personalities who feel they have more than one person living inside their single body.

It's f*cking exhausting. I actually feel bad for these kids. Who can keep this sh*t straight anymore? I'm just going to go about my life offending people from here on out. I've decided I'm too old to conform to this sh*t. if you look like a dude I'm going to treat you like a dude. if you look like a chick I'll treat you that way. If I cant honestly tell then I'm going to default to treating you like a girl and if it turns out you're a dude and you're offended by that then tough sh*t, you should be a man and stop looking like a girl.
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It's completely out of control. Even for my liberal "do whatever makes you happy" ass.

Had a birthday dinner last night for my wife and got into a debate with my millennial brother's late 20-something girlfriend about how her college is trying to ban "he/she" gender references and replace them with some new "Ze" and "Zer" bullsh*t. The main take-away was that students wanted to be identified not by what gender they ARE, but by what gender (or lack there of) they FEEL. Apparently there was a brief period where you were supposed to use "They" instead of "him or her" because that accepted that someone could be one, the other, or both. But unfortunately, "They" is already taken by people with multiple personalities who feel they have more than one person living inside their single body.

It's f*cking exhausting. I actually feel bad for these kids. Who can keep this sh*t straight anymore? I'm just going to go about my life offending people from here on out. I've decided I'm too old to conform to this sh*t. if you look like a dude I'm going to treat you like a dude. if you look like a chick I'll treat you that way. If I cant honestly tell then I'm going to default to treating you like a girl and if it turns out you're a dude and you're offended by that then tough sh*t, you should be a man and stop looking like a girl.
It really is out of control. I had a few dealings with that while I was a student. Many professors and staff started including what they identify as in their e-mail signatures, some even brought it up during their first class introductions. I fail to see why that is necessary in an educational and professional environment. Isn't the whole point of the movement to not be biased based on identification? Shoving it in someone's face will ultimately create a bias.

Similar to how the LGBT community presented themselves around campus. I have my own beliefs, but I do respect other people, and their business is none of mine. If they feel a certain way, good for them, it isn't my place to judge or tell them what to do. I did have issue with it being shoved in my face though. I'd go to class and at the entrance to the building there would be LGBT community members blocking the entrance telling me how much better and accepting of everything they were over everyone else. The first time it didn't really bother me, but after it happened quite a few times, the in-your-face nature of their encounters became quite rude and condescending. If you want others to join your cause, don't be abrasive because you will just be met with deflection.
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This thread is sad. Most of you are focused on ridiculing young people instead of listening to her message. The number of thoughtful and articulate MSD students whom have spoken out recently certainly should give hope that there is perhaps more to this generation than meet the eye. So critique this girl if you want for getting a minor fact or two wrong but you are getting bogged down and missing the message.

Unfortunately it took this awful incident in my home town to alter my views but if you cant see by now that easy access to assault rifles is a detriment to our society then I dont know what else to say. There isnt one valid argument you can make about why these guns should be available to the public. We all agree there is line somewhere which cant be crossed (I cant legally install machine gun turrets on my house right?) and assault rifles should clearly be over that line.

Of course there are many other factors which play into a tragedy like this such as overall school security and access to guns for people with prior history of violence - and those issues should be 100% dealt with as well. But an easy start is banning these weapons which are meant for the battle field and taking away the tool of choice for murderers in these situations.
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This thread is sad. Most of you are focused on ridiculing young people instead of listening to her message. The number of thoughtful and articulate MSD students whom have spoken out recently certainly should give hope that there is perhaps more to this generation than meet the eye. So critique this girl if you want for getting a minor fact or two wrong but you are getting bogged down and missing the message.

Unfortunately it took this awful incident in my home town to alter my views but if you cant see by now that easy access to assault rifles is a detriment to our society then I dont know what else to say. There isnt one valid argument you can make about why these guns should be available to the public. We all agree there is line somewhere which cant be crossed (I cant legally install machine gun turrets on my house right?) and assault rifles should clearly be over that line.

Of course there are many other factors which play into a tragedy like this such as overall school security and access to guns for people with prior history of violence - and those issues should be 100% dealt with as well. But an easy start is banning these weapons which are meant for the battle field and taking away the tool of choice for murderers in these situations.
I do not oppose restrictions on assault weapons or military application weaponry, but I still am having a hard time with the school security thing.

When I was growing up, I never attended a school that had any security - no pars, no guards, no lock down, etc. We had open schools with freedom to move around. There were also guns in society and nut jobs in society. However, we never had a mass school shooting even though there were cases of individuals being shot. What has changed that we now need to turn schools into Alcatraz?
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I do not oppose restrictions on assault weapons or military application weaponry, but I still am having a hard time with the school security thing.

When I was growing up, I never attended a school that had any security - no pars, no guards, no lock down, etc. We had open schools with freedom to move around. There were also guns in society and nut jobs in society. However, we never had a mass school shooting even though there were cases of individuals being shot. What has changed that we now need to turn schools into Alcatraz?
When I was growing up I never had to take my shoes and belt off and have every inch of my body scanned before getting on a plane but then 911 happened. Commercial planes existed for decades before that yet no one felt the need to turn airports into Alcatraz. What changed? 911!

And you ask what has changed to warrant schools needing stricter security - how about 17 dead students last week and the countless others before them? Why do our children not deserve the same level of security to keep them safe? I dont see how anyone could be against this.
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When I was growing up I never had to take my shoes and belt off and have every inch of my body scanned before getting on a plane but then 911 happened. Commercial planes existed for decades before that yet no one felt the need to turn airports into Alcatraz. What changed? 911!

And you ask what has changed to warrant schools needing stricter security - how about 17 dead students last week and the countless others before them? Why do our children not deserve the same level of security to keep them safe? I dont see how anyone could be against this.
I believe in taking reasonable measures, but the level of security that many people envision is unsupportable and unnecessary. There are over 200,000 schools in the US. How many of those have been involved in mass shootings? Mass shootings are deplorable and measures should be taken to prevent them, but the measures need to be reasonable. We could prevent traffic accidents by banning automobiles; we could prevent drunken driving by banning automobiles and alcohol. Those two things cause fa, far more deaths than school shootings.

Comparing security to get on a commercial airliner to security for schools is apples to oranges.
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This thread is sad. Most of you are focused on ridiculing young people instead of listening to her message. The number of thoughtful and articulate MSD students whom have spoken out recently certainly should give hope that there is perhaps more to this generation than meet the eye. So critique this girl if you want for getting a minor fact or two wrong but you are getting bogged down and missing the message.

Unfortunately it took this awful incident in my home town to alter my views but if you cant see by now that easy access to assault rifles is a detriment to our society then I dont know what else to say. There isnt one valid argument you can make about why these guns should be available to the public. We all agree there is line somewhere which cant be crossed (I cant legally install machine gun turrets on my house right?) and assault rifles should clearly be over that line.

Of course there are many other factors which play into a tragedy like this such as overall school security and access to guns for people with prior history of violence - and those issues should be 100% dealt with as well. But an easy start is banning these weapons which are meant for the battle field and taking away the tool of choice for murderers in these situations.
I'm sorry you feel that this is sad but the reality is that I can't operate my life based on feelings, run my business based on feelings, and I certainly can't give information based on feelings.

Quite a bit of this feels really good when you listen to it but if dissected amounts to a knee-jerk response which actually diminishes the possible positive nature of the argument and further polarizes the sides. We have to find a way to an actual conversation about the factors leading up to the tragedies rather than blame the tool used to perpetrate the offense. Until this occurs I'm at a loss on how we solve this. The statistics TELL US ACCURATELY that draconian gun control measures DON'T WORK in this country (Chicago). They simply do not. The question is now: What is the root cause of the violence?

As SakhirM4 and many of us more experienced board members recall, there was no security in our schools, no gun checks, and only the occasional fight. And guess what...no one went home to get a gun and shoot everyone. This means that it is a societal issue, not the issue of an instrument. What changed? Why do people ignore signs that someone may be boiling over?

If there was a push to add user-only safety features on guns, I'd fully support. If there was a push to add methods to track guns through multiple sales, I'd fully support.

They didn't ban cars from drunk driving deaths. They didn't ban cars when they were poorly designed and relatively unsafe...they made them better. Banning guns is not the solution. Improving the technology is a part of the solution but the major solution relies on changing the hearts of people. This isn't a technical problem, it is a human and societal problem.

The nanny state must go. The Participation Trophy must go. Kids need to be held accountable and society must change to imbue a sense of belief, purpose, and responsibility in everyone. In this, we are all failing.
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Have to wonder if any of those in that wecallbs crowd knew this guy. Maybe bullied this guy? Shunned this guy? Mocked this guy? Because he wasn't cool, in their eyes. 'He was weird, so we treated him accordingly.'
Would CNN air that interview?
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It's completely out of control. Even for my liberal "do whatever makes you happy" ass.

Had a birthday dinner last night for my wife and got into a debate with my millennial brother's late 20-something girlfriend about how her college is trying to ban "he/she" gender references and replace them with some new "Ze" and "Zer" bullsh*t. The main take-away was that students wanted to be identified not by what gender they ARE, but by what gender (or lack there of) they FEEL. Apparently there was a brief period where you were supposed to use "They" instead of "him or her" because that accepted that someone could be one, the other, or both. But unfortunately, "They" is already taken by people with multiple personalities who feel they have more than one person living inside their single body.

It's f*cking exhausting. I actually feel bad for these kids. Who can keep this sh*t straight anymore? I'm just going to go about my life offending people from here on out. I've decided I'm too old to conform to this sh*t. if you look like a dude I'm going to treat you like a dude. if you look like a chick I'll treat you that way. If I cant honestly tell then I'm going to default to treating you like a girl and if it turns out you're a dude and you're offended by that then tough sh*t, you should be a man and stop looking like a girl.
Here's the deal.

The people pushing for this shyt are all the bums who couldn't do engineering, IT, medicine, finance, and the lot. You know, fields where people actually produce a tangible product and/or service.

Their art and gender studies degrees don't pay well. So they end up resorting to turn normal shyt controversial in order to make a buck. Our rights end where their feelings begin. They've gotten control over academic institutions, the entertainment industry, the media, and lately sports too so the rest of us with normal objective brains can't escape it. They claim to be pro-science yet all this nonsense is the exact opposite of science.

And you're from Seattle too? The stuff I hear going down at the UW and SeattleU recently is depressing. Just a few yrs ago when I was at the UW this nonsense didn't exist. My brother goes to SeattleU and it's been overrun by these crazies. He gives campus tours and was forced by his zealot colleagues to introduce himself using his "pronoun" and ask the incoming students theirs'. After the first time it awkwarded everybody out and he stopped, the administration be damned.

Poor kid and his buddies got harassed for wearing sombreros on the way to a Cinco de Mayo party. Another time he was harassed and told he can't have an opinion because he got dropped off to school in a BMW, therefore making him "privileged." We are minorities btw.

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I believe in taking reasonable measures, but the level of security that many people envision is unsupportable and unnecessary. There are over 200,000 schools in the US. How many of those have been involved in mass shootings? Mass shootings are deplorable and measures should be taken to prevent them, but the measures need to be reasonable. We could prevent traffic accidents by banning automobiles; we could prevent drunken driving by banning automobiles and alcohol. Those two things cause fa, far more deaths than school shootings.

Comparing security to get on a commercial airliner to security for schools is apples to oranges.
You are lumping traffic accidents together with intentional acts of malice. Apples to oranges comparison.

I dont think things like metal detectors, additional security personnel, and tighter access to entry points is unreasonable. I actually think the airline analogy is quite a good one. How many flights take off and land each day thousands? And a few happened to be hijacked. Pretty small odds yet a large scale response. It took one horrific act to change airport security forever. How many more mass school shootings are acceptable until you feel additional security measures are needed? Its not like this is an isolated incident.
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Originally Posted by gatorfast View Post
You are lumping traffic accidents together with intentional acts of malice. Apples to oranges comparison.

I dont think things like metal detectors, additional security personnel, and tighter access to entry points is unreasonable. I actually think the airline analogy is quite a good one. How many flights take off and land each day thousands? And a few happened to be hijacked. Pretty small odds yet a large scale response. It took one horrific act to change airport security forever. How many more mass school shootings are acceptable until you feel additional security measures are needed? Its not like this is an isolated incident.
The very language around this is changing. There are no more auto accidents which implies a lack of fault. There are collisions in which fault is assigned. See how that works? People are held accountable for their activities in operating the vehicle.
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