[DeeKay]

So brand new LCI but no digital dash? Or is it me that's missing something? I know it's a LCI modem and not brand new but the interior doesn't look like it's the same new-gen as the new 3-Series

[Beagler]

Yesterday I saw on the configurator that the New facelift can be ordered. I went into dealer today and was told my car had moved today to in build. The dealer has allowed me to switch to the new facelift with a delivery of Sept instead of the pre-facelift due in July. I can now have a paler Storm grey and MSport brakes which I wanted at first. Happy Days.

[Jorix]

Originally Posted by Beagler

The dealer has allowed me to switch to the new facelift with a delivery of Sept instead of the pre-facelift due in July. )

At the same price?

[Jorix]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

i like the new changes. But unfortunately it still has the worst driving dynamics of any BMW currently made.

Does it? To be honest, I don't find the X1 (xDrive) in any way less fun to drive than the old 5-series or the old X3. Haven't tried the new models, but I guess you have.

[Beagler]

Originally Posted by Jorix

At the same price?

I’ll let you know Monday when we finalise everything. I know my Tiguan will be reduced a little due to xtra couple of months.
As we say here in Lancashire,

“ You dont get owt fer nowt”

[drrocky]

Originally Posted by Beagler

Yesterday I saw on the configurator that the New facelift can be ordered. I went into dealer today and was told my car had moved today to in build. The dealer has allowed me to switch to the new facelift with a delivery of Sept instead of the pre-facelift due in July. I can now have a paler Storm grey and MSport brakes which I wanted at first. Happy Days.

The German configurator has the 2020 X1 models. The American website is still only allowing you to build a 2019.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by Jorix

Does it? To be honest, I don't find the X1 (xDrive) in any way less fun to drive than the old 5-series or the old X3. Haven't tried the new models, but I guess you have.

I take it you're talking about the previous generation where it was either rear wheel drive or all wheel drive?

[Jorix]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

I take it you're talking about the previous generation where it was either rear wheel drive or all wheel drive?

Nope, I am talking about the current model all wheel drive.

[KSERGEI-BY]

Originally Posted by Jorix

Does it? To be honest, I don't find the X1 (xDrive) in any way less fun to drive than the old 5-series or the old X3. Haven't tried the new models, but I guess you have.

New x3 is very fun to drive and agile car. But I found myself starting comparing to x1 but not older bmws.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by Jorix

Nope, I am talking about the current model all wheel drive.

Got it. But yes, I've driven both drivetrains for the new model. The car feels nothing like a bmw. It feels like a Mini Cooper. And I drove a Mini for 3 years recently.

The car literally has the Cooper driving dynamics. Plus it's underpowered. But I will say this, the X2, although it's basically the same car, drives completely different and actually feels like a bmw. And that's because Bmw actually tweaked the X2 to feel like that.

[KSERGEI-BY]

I used to have a regual e36 sedan.
I dont seek for a same feel as e36 gives. Its just a fun car. It is underpowered comparing to m3 with its 300hp, but it is faster, roomier and more pratical then regular e36 320 sedan. And somewhat more fun to drive. *imho*

[Beagler]

Originally Posted by drrocky

The German configurator has the 2020 X1 models. The American website is still only allowing you to build a 2019.

Our configurator says 2019 but is it the same as 2020


https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/05/28/w...idney-grilles/


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...1-photos-info/

[Jorix]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

Got it. But yes, I've driven both drivetrains for the new model. The car feels nothing like a bmw. It feels like a Mini Cooper. And I drove a Mini for 3 years recently.

The car literally has the Cooper driving dynamics.

Well yeah, probably because it is a mini cooper with the skin of a BMW However, the notion of "drives like a BMW" is ambiguous to me, since BMW currently make 18+ models and the difference between how the 3 series and the 5 series drives is big, not to mention the other models. Some models aim at fun, other aim at comfort, third at practicality and so on.

[CliveL]

Originally Posted by Beagler

I’ll let you know Monday when we finalise everything. I know my Tiguan will be reduced a little due to xtra couple of months.
As we say here in Lancashire,

“ You dont get owt fer nowt”

They seem to be messing around with the different Option "packs" on the UK configurator at the moment, so it will be interesting to see what you get to choose from next week. For example, only yesterday you could choose the Reversing Camera, Electric Seats and Heated Steering Wheel as individually priced add-ons. Today they are only available in Technology Packs, and are in different Packs as well, so you have to take at least two Packs if you want a Reversing Camera and Electric Seats, for example. And you are forced to have Comfort Access as well, which personally I wouldn't want.

Good luck with the new spec next week. Let us know how it goes.

[Beagler]

Originally Posted by CliveL

They seem to be messing around with the different Option "packs" on the UK configurator at the moment, so it will be interesting to see what you get to choose from next week. For example, only yesterday you could choose the Reversing Camera, Electric Seats and Heated Steering Wheel as individually priced add-ons. Today they are only available in Technology Packs, and are in different Packs as well, so you have to take at least two Packs if you want a Reversing Camera and Electric Seats, for example. And you are forced to have Comfort Access as well, which personally I wouldn't want.

Good luck with the new spec next week. Let us know how it goes.

This is what Ive configured. The dealer referred to it as LC1,

[RobinLegin]

Beagler just remember to keep under £40k on road list price, otherwise you will be penalised with road fund excise duty paid at the higher rate for the 1st 5 years of the life of the car.
Mine was built Nov 2017 and I can’t see much difference. And unless BMW offer me a really good deal I plan to stick with it for now, being of the school that runs cars into the ground.

[Beagler]

Originally Posted by RobinLegin

Beagler just remember to keep under £40k on road list price, otherwise you will be penalised with road fund excise duty paid at the higher rate for the 1st 5 years of the life of the car.
Mine was built Nov 2017 and I can’t see much difference. And unless BMW offer me a really good deal I plan to stick with it for now, being of the school that runs cars into the ground.

Is that list price or actual price I pay?
How much difference in the higher rate?
Thanks for your help.

[Beagler]

I found this,

The premium tax levied on cars that cost more than £40,000 (and which is payable from years two to six) will also rise from £310 to £320 per year. The premium tax is based on the car’s quoted list price before discounts, plus any options you’ve added. The list price should include on-the-road costs such as delivery and numberplates but excludes the first year’s road tax and initial registration fee.

[bmwx3805]

Originally Posted by JSP

I was looking for that too. It's only 2020 after all...

I just blows my mind you can't blind spot monitoring in 2019 on the x1

[nelsonvaz]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

X3 has driving assistant, digital dash, not sure about the idrive...

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

X3 has driving assistant, digital dash, not sure about the idrive...

ID7 will fit as standard on X3 G01 production line starting next August.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by bmwx3805

I just blows my mind you can't blind spot monitoring in 2019 on the x1

Does it blow your mind more or less than the following ....?

Paying $3500 for Nav in the late 2000s.

Paying $500 for a USB connection on BMW in the early 2010s.

Paying $1495 for an Exec pack for a (federally mandated ) back up camera in the middle 2010s.


It is funny how BMW wants to tout all their electronic sophistication when a Toyota corolla has many features stock that the bmw doesn't.

[drrocky]

Anyone know if the Convenience or Premium Packages can be ordered with the Moonroof Delete option? I want all of the options included in the Premium, but I do not want the moonroof.