02-29-2020, 10:35 AM | #1 |
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BMW X1 xDrive 25e Test Mule spotted completely undisguised
BMW X1 xDrive 25e Test Mule spotted (Hybrid Test Vehicle) completely undisguised.
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02-29-2020, 10:42 AM | #3 |
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Exactly what I thought... Why???
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02-29-2020, 10:46 AM | #4 |
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Given that the one item that kills me from having any interest many newer BMWs is the front grills that look like the ass end of a 200 liter drum (55 gallon drum for the metric impaired) I can say that while not totally pleasing they are not horrid compared to some of the others. The grills look better with all black trim. At that point it comes down the mechanical specs. There are much better videos out there:
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02-29-2020, 10:54 AM | #5 |
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So just generally I've never really liked the smaller BMW X's, they just seem a bit toy like I think is the best way I can describe them. I did take a long hard look at an X5M a few years ago and liked the size and over all package.
Then there's the grill, there has been a lot of comments about the new grills and I thought they looked bad in pictures. I was out for a walk yesterday and saw what I gather was a 2020 BMW something, I honestly was so shocked at the grill that I failed to notice much else about the car. I have to assume the BMW design and marketing got together and decided this was the way to go, and I know there is something for everyone (some guys like fat girls), but damn the thing just was shocking, it was like vomit, I couldn't look away. So, meh. |
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02-29-2020, 03:17 PM | #7 |
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Yes...it is a bugs bunny grill and not attractive but at least it is better than the one that is coming on the 3/4 series! Degree of hideousness.
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03-01-2020, 01:40 AM | #8 |
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Normally I hate the big grills but I really do like them on the X1. They somehow belong there for me. I actually waited to order my X1 in order to get the big grills.
About the 25e I find it a shame that there is absolutely no way to tell it is a hybrid. I would like to see a special color, speciel trim or something else that said "I am different".
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I'm unsure what is so special about this PHEV. Isn't it fundamentally the same as the MINI Countryman PHEV, which has been around for a couple of years?
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Its battery is a bit bigger but the rest is the same.
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But it's just another product line that appeals to s different market of buyers, you can't blame them. |
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I know it only has the B38 3-cyl under the hood, but I really wish it had the twin exhaust tips, even if one was fake.
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We will have to go electric or hydrogen. it's just hysteria |
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03-08-2020, 12:46 AM | #15 |
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By combining CO2 and hydrogen you can actually create CO2 neutral efuel that is chemical identical to normal fossil fuel. It is called e-fuel. Fx: https://nordicbluecrude.no/
With this technology every fossil fuel car existing on earth could drive carbon neutral today with no change to the existing technology.I would gladly pay extra for this kind of fuel in order to keep my fossil fuel car.
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But I think hybrid cars are stupid when it comes to longevity (due to complexity), performance, trunk space and weight so I am fully against the X1 25e as well. Either gas or full electric please, BMW....... just not with the fake insane nostril grills please =( |
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A powertrain is not complete without proper energy delivery. Electric cars just doesn't work without solving the battery issue. Fuel cell is a better solution but has no infrastructure support.
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But things are about to get a lot better thanks to graphene battery techs. Phones and power bank coming out this year have this tech, which already allows 30%+ more capacity for the same size, 2x charger speed, way safer than lithium and less heating up. As for fuel cell, hydrogen is even more expensive than the gasoline now, and that cost won’t go down to below gasoline even if it’s wide spread. Not to mention the weaker performance of hydrogen cars due to low energy density. I highly recommend the video “The truth about hydrogen” by real engineering (he made this video after doing a sponsored video for shell on promoting hydrogen) and “why hydrogen engines are a bad idea” by engineering explained. |
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When the weight and charge issue is solved I am all in.
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As for weight, yes electric cars are heavier now. But weight is actually a strength for electric cars as motors and batteries can be strategically placed to increase downforce and improve handling. This is only the beginning of electrification and we are already seeing electric cars like model S, taycan, ep9 setting amazing lap times in Nurburgring. Weight is not a problem for sure. |
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