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      06-12-2020, 03:01 PM   #23
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You are suffering from the "Placebo effect" and with the greatest respect, you do not understand "Engine Control Units". If you are happy to believe it, then all well and good. Enjoy your fantasy!
The procedure you are countenancing was banded around recently to cure sluggish automatic gearbox issues.
As stated previously it IS an old wives tale and also recently appeared on some other manufacturers forums as a cure for turbo lag.
With regards to the fuel issue, as stated all UK diesel fuel HAS to conform to the standard I posted in my previous thread. Some fuel suppliers put in additives, but that is another topic for discussion.
Well I’m sure you don’t feel any difference, doesn’t mean I don’t though. Your ECU is constantly adjusting the timing depending on the quality of the fuel and many other sensor data. For example, when it hears a knock, it retards the timing. It will continue to advance the timing to a certain degree until it hears the knock again. When you do a ECU reset, it will do a wipe of the timing and many other settings. It’s absolutely not a placebo effect. To me, the differences is night and day. It affects how the turbo spools up, how the engine sound, how much boost are being thrown in. Go ahead and try it yourself.

And I don’t ever rely on the automatic shifting as I only drive with the pedals. So i don’t know if ECU reset would affect the automatic shifting.
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Well I’m sure you don’t feel any difference, doesn’t mean I don’t though. Your ECU is constantly adjusting the timing depending on the quality of the fuel and many other sensor data. For example, when it hears a knock, it retards the timing. It will continue to advance the timing to a certain degree until it hears the knock again. When you do a ECU reset, it will do a wipe of the timing and many other settings. It’s absolutely not a placebo effect. To me, the differences is night and day. It affects how the turbo spools up, how the engine sound, how much boost are being thrown in. Go ahead and try it yourself.

And I don’t ever rely on the automatic shifting as I only drive with the pedals. So i don’t know if ECU reset would affect the automatic shifting.
Please enlighten us all on what you are on about above? What you are saying is totally irrelevant because the vibration felt is from a DIESEL ENGINE AND NOT A GASOLINE ENGINE. Below is what the Original Poster said..., so that is what I am talking about when I talk about Placebo effect and the fuel standard in the UK for the Original Poster's problem because we only have one grade of diesel coming out of the refineries. It is to BS EN 590:2009 standard.

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Hi all,
I got 2016 x1 2.5d when accelerating especially in 1st gear i get this vibration around 1500rpm not sure what this is. I feel like its gear box related but not sure..
Car still under warranty but wanted to see if anyone has experience this issue. Also this engine seem very loud compared to the old 2.5d sound like a tractor
Any help be much appreciated. Thanks
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@lonegun Knock from a diesel engine is what it is supposed to do. It is called detonation and how diesel engines work using compression ignition once the engine has started with the assistance of glow plugs.
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Please enlighten us all on what you are on about above? What you are saying is totally irrelevant because the vibration felt is from a DIESEL ENGINE AND NOT A GASOLINE ENGINE. This is what the Original Poster said..., so that is what I am talking about when I talk about Placebo effect and the fuel standard in the UK for the Original Poster's problem because we only have one grade of diesel coming out of the refineries. It is to BS EN 590:2009 standard.
Read it again. I wasn't even replying to the original poster, I was replying to hqdevelopers, who didn't specify if he was using a diesel engine or not. Since you said he is, I thought you know him from another post or something. Obviously we are talking about different people and different things.

Regardless, an ECU reset WILL make you car handle differently and that's the point I am trying to get across.
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Regardless, an ECU reset WILL make you car handle differently and that's the point I am trying to get across.
You as a driver cannot reset the ECU in the way you describe.

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I was replying to hqdevelopers,
Read hqdevelopers signature. He has a 2.0D!

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I wasn't even replying to the original poster
Then you should be! You are not following forum convention and keeping on topic and answering the original question.
Do us all a favour and with respect please do.
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You as a driver cannot reset the ECU in the way you describe.
Again, you are wrong on that. ECU CAN be reset to adapt to new variables as they are designed to do so. I've been forced to reset mine as my ECU adapt to my boost controller's higher boost data. I don't know where you get your information from but go ahead, show me your information. I've given my side of the story, show us your side instead of just "ohhhh it's placebo!!"

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Read hqdevelopers signature. He has a 2.0D!
Yep, and that's why I said I was sorry that I made that mistake. But my original statement stands. Always use the highest quality of fuel. In Germany, that means Shell V Power Diesel and stay away from Aral brand diesel.

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Then you should be! You are not following forum convention and keeping on topic and answering the original question.
Do us all a favour and with respect please do.
So you are saying no one can reply to any post that's not from the original poster in a forum?? Because it makes people who don't read carefully assume it's responding to the original poster?

I was merely trying to help a fellow forum member with the solution that had helped me as I experienced rough idling before. You came out of no where and start being toxic and escalating the situation.

How about you do US all a favour and stop being so toxic?

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      06-13-2020, 01:48 AM   #28
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Always use the highest quality of fuel. In Germany, that means Shell V Power Diesel and stay away from Aral brand diesel.
The Original Poster is in the UK. That is who we are trying to help isn't it?
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So you are saying no one can reply to any post that's not from the original poster in a forum?? Because it makes people who don't read carefully assume it's responding to the original poster?
Ehhh????? Just stay on topic in the thread to help the Original Poster.
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How about you do US all a favour and stop being so toxic?
Where? I have always been polite.

You are arguing for the sake of it, and are coming up with very immature answers.
Let us finally put this to bed and please post in this thread on what page in the operating manual the Diesel Engined ECU can be reset in the exact manner you claim and state in your quote below:
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Also you can try to reset the engine's ECU by pressing on the gas pedal for 10 second with the power ON engine OFF, then leave the car off for 15 mins.
By the way, the BMW Genius in the UK have no knowledge of this and laugh at your response.
Your Diatribe is over.
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@lonegun

The Original Poster is in the UK. That is who we are trying to help isn't it?
I've already said that I wasn't replying to him and it is ridiculous to assume every post in a thread is directed toward ONLY the original poster. But even in UK, there are different quality of Diesel fuel.

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Ehhh????? Just stay on topic in the thread to help the Original Poster.
I can help whoever I want to help in a thread.

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Where? I have always been polite.
Sure, I'm just gonna say the same thing are you saying. Everything you are saying is nothing but "old wives tales" and nothing but placebo effects in your head. I don't need any support, because it's true.

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You are arguing for the sake of it, and are coming up with very immature answers.
Let us finally put this to bed and please post in this thread on what page in the operating manual the Diesel Engined ECU can be reset in the exact manner you claim and state in your quote below:
It's funny because I am actually offering solution based on my experiences and information from other forum members. Everything you are arguing is literally arguing for the sake of arguing.

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By the way, the BMW Genius in the UK have no knowledge of this and laugh at your response.
Your Diatribe is over.
Thanks
I'm not surprised because obviously you don't ask the right question. Go back and ask "How do you do a throttle body adaptation reset?" See how easy I make it for you while offering actual usable information?
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Haaaa Haaaa Haaa lonegun:readthethread you are still completely:
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Haaaa Haaaa Haaa lonegun:readthethread you are still completely:
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@lonegun. Still waiting for your reply...

Very simple really, let us finally put this to bed and please post in this thread on what page in the operating manual the Diesel Engined ECU on a X1 can be reset in the exact manner you claim?
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Always use the highest grade of fuel, any grade lower than the suggested grade can cause vibration. Check to see if you need to replace air filter. Also you can try to reset the engine's ECU by pressing on the gas pedal for 10 second with the power ON engine OFF, then leave the car off for 15 mins.
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going to take car to BMW specialist they going to take a look at the issue. hopefully i get some better news and maybe get this looked into properly
@ NM7
Crawley? Is this the garage?

https://www.vinesofgatwickbmw.co.uk/

Any progress on this front now that they are now open for business? Did you get it resolved?
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Peter_R that is the garage i been taking it too however i been going to see some guys in crawley that are BMW specialist they seem to be doing amazing job. i got appointment on the 26th so i let you know what the outcome is. BMR Performance is the company i been taking it to

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Peter_R that is the garage i been taking it too however i been going to see some guys in crawley that are BMW specialist they seem to be doing amazing job. i got appointment on the 26th so i let you know what the outcome is. BMR Performance is the company i been taking it to
This garage!
http://www.bmrperformance.co.uk/
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yep thats the one peter these guys are really good. Ross and Barry the owners top chaps very knowledgeable and reasonably priced. Use all genuiene BMW parts as well so get warranty on parts labour etc
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