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I don't need a PhD to know that climate changes. Climate has been changing over time for as long as people cared to write it down and it doesn't care if people write it. The Nile river used to run right next to the pyramids and then turn eastward across the entire Sahara of North Africa and it used to be lush and tropical from fossil records and satellite imagery. Then it slowly shifted so wallah climate change demonstrated and there was no CO2 emissions from BMWs back then. All things change why should climate be any different?
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It's not so much the climate change, but the speed of the change that is troubling.
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If you look at Covid and how much general traffic and people movement stopped during that time to reduce emissions by what we saw during that timeframe, it becomes obvious that no adjustment in our everyday lives is possible to get to that level without completely altering everyone's lifestyle... and by that I mean including our capitalist consumption society. Went an easy fix... ban private jets, go hard on China and significantly find a way to slow general consumption... good luck w any of those. Oh and force all companies that can offer remote work to do so.
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The arrogance on both sides of the climate change argument is really annoying. To assume we know how a billions-years-old planet is going to react long-term is stupid. We are just a little dot in time.
However, I do agree that there are things that humans are doing that are causing changes and I am for people making changes to preserve what we have.
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Paper bags and plastic bags.. Please. I remember when paper bags were banned because they were bad for the environment and replaced with plastic. Now we have oceans full of plastic. Could this be foreshadowing of replacing ICE vehicles with EVs before fully understanding the impact? I wonder which is worse for the environment (I'll concur on plastic): paper bags or virtually everyone of little league age or older having a cell phone, gaming console, computer, and tablet that is manufactured and replaced cyclically every couple of years? Last edited by CarsAndGuitars; 09-29-2022 at 05:02 PM.. |
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Let me also add... you better get onto banning butcoin quick because that is cancer for the environment.
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It's awful for the central banking environment
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A buttcoin is always a buttcoin 😂... no one knows where the wallet is hidden.
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The problem with today's science is Dunning Kruger!!!
We THINK we know, when we don't! We THINK we have all the answers, when we don't! Trying to compare a few hundred years vs eons of mother nature is futile! Nixon declared WAR on Cancer in the early 70's when the ratio was like 1-10 to get cancer in your lifetime. What's it today... 4-10! So, things are better understood, better testing and diagnostics, better treatment, so more survivors, but more also being found and the cause unknown! Don't even try to venture down the genomic rabbit hole! Lol... So the environment, yeah, we know shyt! As George Carlin once said, the Earth will spit us out like a bad virus, and over a few million years go back to being what it is, with us, or without. Disclaimer: See "Dinosaurs" lmao! |
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We actually have scientific evidence of a culture that pretty much went extinct because of climate change. They are the Mayans and Aztecs.
We are starting to realize, through Lidar, that their civilizations spanned farther into the rain forest than we knew. One of the proposed reasons why these civilizations vanished is because they cut down large swaths of rain forest in order to build their cities. By doing this, they changed the environment that they relied upon. Without moisture the rain forests stopped producing rain and the lands dried up. They were not able to live off the land so they left. Now that they are gone, the rain forests were able to recover. There is also the people of Easter Island. The island had enough to support the people for so long and when they used up all their resources, they didn't survive. |
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Aztecs are documented to have died from Smallpox and other diseases from European explorers / invaders. A Mayan drought from excessive logging is a theory and a plausible one, but one of many, none of which have been demonstrably proven. Easter Island as you said exhausted their limited resources in an isolated area. That is not climate change. That is using up your resources.
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Is the climate changing due to man made activities? Sure. Are we seconds from midnight on the doomsday clock? I'm not so sure. |
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Scientists universally agree which way is north, that the earth is round and that water is wet. They don't universally agree on on climate, let alone much else.
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