[Bluezed]

I'm not sure Andy, in fact I'm now totally confused.
I could understand if it was entirely Sat Nav based and after some initial postings I thought (without any DA package) that's the way it worked.

On Monday, because of the time of day and bad weather, every other M25 gantry was changing the speed limit from anything between 20 and 60mph.
As soon as I went under the gantry, the HUD showed the new speed limit.
I think it's great that it does but can only mean the windscreen camera reads the signs. If it was Sat Nav based then it would have been showing 70mph all the way?

I rarely see any 'no overtaking' signs where I live so it would be good to drive past one to see if that shows up? I'm not sure what other signs the system is supposed to recognise.

[washy]

The sport loaner we used for a couple of months had the speed limit display, but no other driver assistance options and I know that used a camera as the kids at the local primary school painted a big sign that says 20 is plenty and the car recognised that as it displayed a 20 limit!

[KPD]

I'm willing to bet the descriptions and documents on BMW's horrendous UK website are outdated and that they are now offering this as standard. All models have the camera anyway as part of Active Guard. So this is perhaps just a simple software upgrade.

[The Beast]

Right I'm confused too now, I only ordered the driver assistance package for the speed limit recognition as others on here stated it was required for this to work...

If the car does this without the Driver Assistance Package I will drop it and order some other goodies instead

[jksgoh]

Does anyone know what the Australian spec cars display on the HUD?
unfortunately the person who took me on a test drive wasn't the most knowledgable...

[ttimbo]

I've asked this question, too...I'd love to know...mine is about 4 weeks away, so if you can wait.....!

[The Beast]

Any joy on this?

I have asked my SA and even he is unsure and he is very knowledgable... He is going to ask BMW directly

[ttimbo]

Originally Posted by The Beast

Any joy on this?

I have asked my SA and even he is unsure and he is very knowledgable... He is going to ask BMW directly

You should be ok in the UK, according to other owners...but in Australia :

[The Beast]

Here's what my SA came back with

5AS
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A range of camera-based driver assistance systems that enhance safety and reduce the risk of potential collisions, at both high and low speeds. Systems included in this option are:

Lane Departure Warning for detecting lane markings at speeds above approximately 45mph. If the car deviates from the lane of travel without the use of indicators, the steering wheel vibrates as an alert. If the indicators are used to signal, the system recognises this as an intentional lane change and the steering wheel will not vibrate.

High-beam assistance: at speeds of 50 km/h and higher, the high-beam headlights are turned on and off automatically, depending on approaching traffic; also detects sufficient exterior lighting, for example in built-up areas

Forward Collision Warning operates at speeds above 10 mph and monitors vehicles ahead and warns the driver by an optical and acoustic alert if their approach could escalate into a rear-end collision. At higher speeds over 30 mph an urgent warning also activates brake preconditioning for maximum force.
City Collision Mitigation proactively engages braking automatically for rapid reaction to potential vehicle collisions in driving situations up to 35 mph.

Preventive Pedestrian Protection proactively engages braking automatically for rapid reaction to potential collisions with humans and cyclists in urban driving situations up to 35 mph. The identification of pedestrians and cyclists is only active in daylight.

Speed-limit information (standard on all F48 X1's): Keeps the driver informed of the maximum permissible speed of the road and supplementary road signage e.g. no overtaking. A camera 'reads' relevant signs above and beside the road, and compares this information with the speed limits recorded in the navigation system. The speed limit is then displayed in the instrument cluster.

Operation by means of a button in the control unit for driver assistance systems.
The systems within Driving Assistant are not a substitute for the judgement of the driver. The driver should remain in control of the vehicle at all times and these systems are an aid but should not be solely relied upon.

Also includes 5.7" black panel display in instrument cluster with a 640 x 160 resolution.
Please note that Speed-limit information is standard on all F48 X1 models.
Not with 5AT Driving Assistant Plus.

I might remove the driving assistant package and add some other goodies instead...

I've now asked my SA to take out a couple of their demo vehicles and test this theory for me

[KPD]

Bloody hell. It says it's part of 5AS, then says it's standard, then says it's not part of 5AT. Do they ever proofread these things at all?

High Beam assist + Speed Limit Info/Assist were the main reasons I ordered 5AS. I was told without it, satnav is used for speed limit info, similar to almost every other car that has a satnav.

... But then @Bam-Bam said the Dutch models had Speed Limit Info as standard. And now it looks like it's standard in UK models too, despite the description on BMW's website/brochures.

So... Mayyybe... it's "Speed Limit ASSIST" that comes with 5AS and 5AT. Not "Speed Limit INFO".

Bluezed, can you confirm if you have this feature: http://f48.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1199420 Is yours the regular limiter or does it behave like the assisted version?

[Bluezed]

I'll try it out and let you know.

[The Beast]

Just got confirmation back from my SA that their demonstrator with out Driving Assistant does have speed camera display. TBH I'm not bothered about the other features within this package so am going to get rid of it and add adjustable lumbar support and a heated steering wheel instead...

[washy]

Originally Posted by The Beast

Just got confirmation back from my SA that their demonstrator with out Driving Assistant does have speed camera display. TBH I'm not bothered about the other features within this package so am going to get rid of it and add adjustable lumbar support and a heated steering wheel instead...

Probably a good decision tbh. Was going to cover this in my driving experiences with our car, but I found the anti collision too sensitve and the lane departure got on my nerves. I do like the auto high beam, but it isnt the clever systen that I have on the M235i.

The heated wheel is bliss I wish I had put that on my M4 spec now...

[The Beast]

Originally Posted by washy

Probably a good decision tbh. Was going to cover this in my driving experiences with our car, but I found the anti collision too sensitve and the lane departure got on my nerves. I do like the auto high beam, but it isnt the clever systen that I have on the M235i.

The heated wheel is bliss I wish I had put that on my M4 spec now...

Yes I was thinking that the steering vibrating every time i don't indicate would really annoy me. Anti collision, I will take your word for. High beam assist, although brilliant on my F10, I have only used once on a late night trip back from Heathrow. I live in a city and mainly use the car around town.

[Bluezed]

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Bluezed, can you confirm if you have this feature: http://f48.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1199420 Is yours the regular limiter or does it behave like the assisted version?[/QUOTE]

KPD - Have just tried this out and it looks like I do get active speed limit assist. If I set the limiter to 40 in a 40 zone and then enter a 30 zone, I get a green downward pointing arrow in the HUD.
Nothing happens automatically but if I press the rocker switch on the steering wheel downwards, the limiter goes straight to the new limit (i.e. not in 1mph or 5 mph stages).

[The Beast]

Originally Posted by Bluezed

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Bluezed, can you confirm if you have this feature: http://f48.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1199420 Is yours the regular limiter or does it behave like the assisted version?

KPD - Have just tried this out and it looks like I do get active speed limit assist. If I set the limiter to 40 in a 40 zone and then enter a 30 zone, I get a green downward pointing arrow in the HUD.
Nothing happens automatically but if I press the rocker switch on the steering wheel downwards, the limiter goes straight to the new limit (i.e. not in 1mph or 5 mph stages).[/QUOTE]

That's pretty cool, didn't realise it did that

[KPD]

So both "info" and "assist" are standard. Why they are listed as part of the Driver Assist pack is beyond me.

[jksgoh]

So found some info on whirlpool forums, not sure how reliable it is, but the logic seems reasonable... looks like the speed limit detection may be turned off for us.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2413595

posted 2015-Nov-17, 3:21 pm

Here's an explanation from the dealer:

"This used to be available on some of our older vehicle with Head Up Display but had to be stopped due to Australia’s variable speed limits i.e School zones etc. It is a camera based system but the issue is some on the signs are only applicable at certain times of the day. Also Trucks sometimes have speed limit signs on the back to warn drivers, the camera would also pick this up."

So yeah in Australia where multiple speed limits up the wazoo are the norm – it unfortunately causes the Speed Limit Info due to be unavailable – since they could change any time any where at the authorities whim – plus add things like School Zones etc etc.

[Andy203]

Originally Posted by The Beast

KPD - Have just tried this out and it looks like I do get active speed limit assist. If I set the limiter to 40 in a 40 zone and then enter a 30 zone, I get a green downward pointing arrow in the HUD.
Nothing happens automatically but if I press the rocker switch on the steering wheel downwards, the limiter goes straight to the new limit (i.e. not in 1mph or 5 mph stages).

That's pretty cool, didn't realise it did that[/QUOTE]
Tried this yesterday, set at 30 entered 20 limit got the red car with arrow down but the bit with rocker switch does not go straight to 20 for me!

Have just returned in the dark tonight had limit set to 60, entered 50 in excess no car or arrows continued into a 40 again over limit and still nothing. Therefore it must be camera based so can not read signs in the dark.

[ttimbo]

Originally Posted by jksgoh

So found some info on whirlpool forums, not sure how reliable it is, but the logic seems reasonable... looks like the speed limit detection may be turned off for us.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2413595

posted 2015-Nov-17, 3:21 pm

Here's an explanation from the dealer:

"This used to be available on some of our older vehicle with Head Up Display but had to be stopped due to Australia’s variable speed limits i.e School zones etc. It is a camera based system but the issue is some on the signs are only applicable at certain times of the day. Also Trucks sometimes have speed limit signs on the back to warn drivers, the camera would also pick this up."

So yeah in Australia where multiple speed limits up the wazoo are the norm – it unfortunately causes the Speed Limit Info due to be unavailable – since they could change any time any where at the authorities whim – plus add things like School Zones etc etc.

Thanks for this...but it really makes no sense, and I hope it is possible to have it recorded active. Why I say it's nonsense is because I've seen plenty of variable speed limits in Europe, especially on motorways (usually weather related) as well as speed signs on the back of trucks, and speed zones that vary by time of day. Of course, these may be confusing for the system, but if it at least draws your attention to something the system is confused about, as driver, you can make up your own mind.

[The Beast]

Originally Posted by ttimbo

Thanks for this...but it really makes no sense, and I hope it is possible to have it recorded active. Why I say it's nonsense is because I've seen plenty of variable speed limits in Europe, especially on motorways (usually weather related) as well as speed signs on the back of trucks, and speed zones that vary by time of day. Of course, these may be confusing for the system, but if it at least draws your attention to something the system is confused about, as driver, you can make up your own mind.

+1

[jksgoh]

Originally Posted by ttimbo

Thanks for this...but it really makes no sense, and I hope it is possible to have it recorded active. Why I say it's nonsense is because I've seen plenty of variable speed limits in Europe, especially on motorways (usually weather related) as well as speed signs on the back of trucks, and speed zones that vary by time of day. Of course, these may be confusing for the system, but if it at least draws your attention to something the system is confused about, as driver, you can make up your own mind.

Yeh i duno....
Anyone with a 25i in Aus able to clarify ???