Airbag

J_MENIS · 04-03-2017, 10:05 PM

Is there any recalls on air bags or TSB ? If so can someone link me? I was hit by a drunk driver and car is totaled. And airbags never deployed.

The frame is even bent. So I would expect the bags to deploy

Worst part, driver was uninsured and undocumented...

MuffinMan910 · 04-03-2017, 10:20 PM

Wow looks terrible OP. Hope you're okay.

Don't know anything about an airbag recall

J_MENIS · 04-03-2017, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuffinMan910

Wow looks terrible OP. Hope you're okay.

Don't know anything about an airbag recall

In your opinion, do you think the bags should have deployed? I got hit at 55mph according to the police report.
Trying to see if I can get a case with BMW going since the guy was uninsured

Katin · 04-03-2017, 11:00 PM

Hard to believe there was an undocumented person in California.
Was he at least detained by INS for the day and sent packing?
Sorry for your situation... Very frustrating!

J_MENIS · 04-03-2017, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katin

Hard to believe there was an undocumented person in California.
Was he at least detained by INS for the day and sent packing?
Sorry for your situation... Very frustrating!

He was arrested, but not sure what happened from there. Cops did say he was charged with a felony count.

And you'd be surprised there's an entire community of undocumented people here. Nothing wrong with that though

And yes it's extremely frustrating, especially given the scenario.

Was sitting at a res light and bam. Cops said he was going 55 MPH and that the dude said he took "12 behind the wheel"

paul e · 04-04-2017, 11:01 AM

What's that mean? "12 behind the wheel"? Asleep?

Also, I thought airbags only deployed in front and side collisions?

J_MENIS · 04-04-2017, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul e

What's that mean? "12 behind the wheel"? Asleep?

Also, I thought airbags only deployed in front and side collisions?

Guessing 12 shots? And honestly I'm not sure, I would expect my bags to deploy since I my frame is bent, my back end is crushed. Quarter panel is warped and front was smashed also.

Beek · 04-04-2017, 12:53 PM

With all the people getting hurt or killed by their Airbags you should be happy they didn't go off ... as long as they were not needed that is. Best of Luck going forward and now at least you have a good excuse to get a 440!

edit: Or looking at your signature maybe its time for an M?

uncleruckus · 04-04-2017, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul e

What's that mean? "12 behind the wheel"? Asleep?

Also, I thought airbags only deployed in front and side collisions?

Maybe as in they looked age 12 (i.e. young) ?

From my understanding airbags deploy based on "impact" sensors in the front/side of the vehicle. I guess the question is: were those sensors triggered and airbags didn't "fire".... or were the sensors simply not triggered at all ?

donkey · 04-04-2017, 01:42 PM

Did you get some severe injury that could have been prevented with airbags and that your insurance won't cover?

The car would have been wrecked airbags or not

Billfitz · 04-04-2017, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

In your opinion, do you think the bags should have deployed? I got hit at 55mph according to the police report.

No way, unless you were doing 35 in the same direction. It looks bad, but if you were stationary and got hit by someone doing 55 the damage would have extended to the back seat.
The Takata airbag recall isn't because they don't work, it's because when they do the inflators can end up as lethal shrapnel.
In your case being hit from the rear is less likely to cause the airbags to inflate, because they don't offer much protection from rear impact. The impact sensors are most sensitive to head on or side collisions, where the airbags offer the most protection and the threat of injury from low speed collisions is highest.

badbread · 04-04-2017, 01:53 PM

Ugh, sorry, glad you're OK. Where was this in the Bay?

J_MENIS · 04-04-2017, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfitz

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

In your opinion, do you think the bags should have deployed? I got hit at 55mph according to the police report.

No way, unless you were doing 35 in the same direction. It looks bad, but if you were stationary and got hit by someone doing 55 the damage would have extended to the back seat.
The Takata airbag recall isn't because they don't work, it's because when they do the inflators can end up as lethal shrapnel.
In your case being hit from the rear is less likely to cause the airbags to inflate, because they don't offer much protection from rear impact. The impact sensors are most sensitive to head on or side collisions, where the airbags offer the most protection and the threat of injury from low speed collisions is highest.

The rear passenger seat on the driver side was pushed out a little bit. It's pretty bad, adjuster said the frame is twisted.

J_MENIS · 04-04-2017, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badbread

Ugh, sorry, glad you're OK. Where was this in the Bay?

Thank you, I was heading back from San Jose

J_MENIS · 04-04-2017, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drive335

Did you get some severe injury that could have been prevented with airbags and that your insurance won't cover?

The car would have been wrecked airbags or not

No severe Injuries in my car, but none of the medical is covered since the guy had no insurance.

Only the car will be covered.

Wires · 04-04-2017, 07:40 PM

It looks more like a 35 collision than a 55 though. Car is meant to absorb the impact (including damage to the frame). Airbags should only deploy on a front/side collision. They would do nothing for a car being rear-ended.

Does suck though OP....

J_MENIS · 04-04-2017, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wires

It looks more like a 35 collision than a 55 though. Car is meant to absorb the impact (including damage to the frame). Airbags should only deploy on a front/side collision. They would do nothing for a car being rear-ended.

Does suck though OP....

Well my car was pushed forward a good full car length which is why i hit the car infront of me.

I agree I feel like 55 should have left more damage. However it's worst in person, the inner trunk and rear seat were trashed too lol

bimmer456 · 04-05-2017, 01:24 AM

Sorry this happened to you OP, but insurance will cover most of the cost for a replacement. At least you and your passengers were okay as the car absorbed most of the impact. The only recall on airbags I'm aware of are for shrapnel from the Takata air bags that were used as replacements in some accident vehicles that were repaired. It looks like your car was rear ended and then rear ended another vehicle or was crushed so the rate of deceleration might not have been enough to fire the air bags. I believe the accelerarometers are on the front and side so a rear end collision won't fire the air bags, would need to do an investigation if they were defective. On another note, the adjuster may have totaled the vehicle even though it is repairable so they can take ownership of it and sell those sweet rims on eBay to make a profit on your loss. If you can't fix it and sell as salvage you could part it out and come out ahead. That's probably the reason insurance companies would rather declare a car a total loss as it is more profitable for them.

etinifni · 04-05-2017, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

Quote:

Originally Posted by drive335

Did you get some severe injury that could have been prevented with airbags and that your insurance won't cover?

The car would have been wrecked airbags or not

No severe Injuries in my car, but none of the medical is covered since the guy had no insurance.

Only the car will be covered.

I'm assuming you carry uninsured coverage but do you not carry medical on your policy?

Polo08816 · 04-05-2017, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

Is there any recalls on air bags or TSB ? If so can someone link me? I was hit by a drunk driver and car is totaled. And airbags never deployed.

The frame is even bent. So I would expect the bags to deploy

Worst part, driver was uninsured and undocumented...

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_MENIS

In your opinion, do you think the bags should have deployed? I got hit at 55mph according to the police report.
Trying to see if I can get a case with BMW going since the guy was uninsured

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katin

Hard to believe there was an undocumented person in California.
Was he at least detained by INS for the day and sent packing?
Sorry for your situation... Very frustrating!

I'm glad ICE is finally being authorized to do what they were created to do.

Billfitz · 04-05-2017, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo08816

I'm glad ICE is finally being authorized to do what they were created to do.

+1. Legals never cause accidents and are always insured.

MYF30ROCKS · 04-05-2017, 08:39 AM

Front and side airbags deploy during front impact and side impact. Usually it's programed to deploy based on 1-speed(35m/h or greater), 2-weight of the person, position of the seat. During the impact seat belt pretension deploy first and within couple of m/s it sends the signal to Airbags to deploy.
1,2 must require for deployment, if this event happens and airbags did not deploy then you know it's ....

During rear impact airbags will not deploy.

04-03-2017, 10:05 PM	#1
J_MENIS Lieutenant 115 Rep 462 Posts Drives: 435i Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Is there any recalls on air bags or TSB ? If so can someone link me? I was hit by a drunk driver and car is totaled. And airbags never deployed. The frame is even bent. So I would expect the bags to deploy Worst part, driver was uninsured and undocumented... Attached Images __________________ @Menis_F32 2015 435I Msport EWG - Muffler Delete, JB4, E30/40, VRSF Catless DP, Resonator Delete, BMS Intake, H&R Super Sport Springs, VRSF CP, Phoneix FMIC, BM3 STG2 OTS 91 - JB4 BEF
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

04-03-2017, 10:20 PM	#2
MuffinMan910 Lieutenant 135 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2013 f30 335i xDrive mSport Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (0)	Wow looks terrible OP. Hope you're okay. Don't know anything about an airbag recall
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-03-2017, 11:00 PM	#4
Katin Second Lieutenant 134 Rep 291 Posts Drives: 2015 328i XDrive Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Nowhere good iTrader: (0)	Hard to believe there was an undocumented person in California. Was he at least detained by INS for the day and sent packing? Sorry for your situation... Very frustrating!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-04-2017, 11:01 AM	#6
paul e Captain 421 Rep 843 Posts Drives: 340i xDrive 6MT Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: South Carolina iTrader: (0)	What's that mean? "12 behind the wheel"? Asleep? Also, I thought airbags only deployed in front and side collisions?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-04-2017, 12:53 PM	#8
Beek Major 707 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: Most folks crazy. Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Twin Cities iTrader: (0)	With all the people getting hurt or killed by their Airbags you should be happy they didn't go off ... as long as they were not needed that is. Best of Luck going forward and now at least you have a good excuse to get a 440! edit: Or looking at your signature maybe its time for an M? __________________ '16 340xi Mineral Grey/Black Leather, MPSS on 18" 398 Orbit Grey wheels, ZF 8HP50, MPPSK+CF Tips, ZTR, ZMP, ZTP, ZCW, ZDA, ZDB, Black Kidney Grilles. '09 Outback for a beater and grocery getter.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-04-2017, 01:42 PM	#10
donkey Captain 470 Rep 720 Posts Drives: 6MT M2 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Flavortown iTrader: (0)	Did you get some severe injury that could have been prevented with airbags and that your insurance won't cover? The car would have been wrecked airbags or not
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-04-2017, 01:53 PM	#12
badbread not good, but bad 333 Rep 361 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (3)	Ugh, sorry, glad you're OK. Where was this in the Bay? __________________ They are spelled BRAKES not breaks!!!! Oh FFS, not another spark plug thread! BreadsBMW on Youtube
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-04-2017, 07:40 PM	#16
Wires Brigadier General 1662 Rep 4,906 Posts Drives: 2016 340i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	It looks more like a 35 collision than a 55 though. Car is meant to absorb the impact (including damage to the frame). Airbags should only deploy on a front/side collision. They would do nothing for a car being rear-ended. Does suck though OP....
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-05-2017, 01:24 AM	#18
bimmer456 Major General 2994 Rep 6,045 Posts Drives: 340i Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Pasadena, CA iTrader: (0)	Sorry this happened to you OP, but insurance will cover most of the cost for a replacement. At least you and your passengers were okay as the car absorbed most of the impact. The only recall on airbags I'm aware of are for shrapnel from the Takata air bags that were used as replacements in some accident vehicles that were repaired. It looks like your car was rear ended and then rear ended another vehicle or was crushed so the rate of deceleration might not have been enough to fire the air bags. I believe the accelerarometers are on the front and side so a rear end collision won't fire the air bags, would need to do an investigation if they were defective. On another note, the adjuster may have totaled the vehicle even though it is repairable so they can take ownership of it and sell those sweet rims on eBay to make a profit on your loss. If you can't fix it and sell as salvage you could part it out and come out ahead. That's probably the reason insurance companies would rather declare a car a total loss as it is more profitable for them.
	Appreciate 1 J_MENIS114.50 Quote

04-05-2017, 08:39 AM	#22
MYF30ROCKS Life is short make it smart 66 Rep 126 Posts Drives: F30 335IX M-Sport,HK,MPE,MPPK Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Detroit MI iTrader: (0)	Front and side airbags deploy during front impact and side impact. Usually it's programed to deploy based on 1-speed(35m/h or greater), 2-weight of the person, position of the seat. During the impact seat belt pretension deploy first and within couple of m/s it sends the signal to Airbags to deploy. 1,2 must require for deployment, if this event happens and airbags did not deploy then you know it's .... During rear impact airbags will not deploy. __________________ F30 335I X-Drive, EBII, M-Sport, M-Suspension, MPE, MPPK,HK,CA. 11 M3, Jerez Black, EDC, ZCP (Retired) 10 328I X-Drive, Monaco Blue, M-Sport Coupe (Retired) 03 M3 Black (Retired)
	Appreciate 0 Quote