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Example: You targeted unions and painted with a broad brush. I presented information that directly disproved the information in the article. I tried to express that not all unions are created equal. Instead you kept pointing to the Texas article. You clearly were not interested in learning anything. |
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Your opinion does not compare to that of work published in respected, publicly reviewed places. Clan, if you have written a study or article or something on the subject, pls let us read it! I don't even see you quoting accurate figures, though. Murf |
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How many police, ex-cop, pols, etc were quoted in the articles? I wish Clan had his arguments & figures together better, but he don't. Any article worth its mettle is multi-sourced. My motto: If it isn't in the NYT yet, it isn't true (but I'm flexible). Saves me lots of grief. Other than that, we have no disagreement that I see. Last time this gratitude stuff was posted, I said that's how I now feel when I see someone in medical scrubs walk by. That is not a disagreement! But I didn't get a single "that's right Murf!'" from any of the fanboys. Murf |
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"For example, in 1961, there's this case called Monroe v. Pape, where this Black family, the Monroes, sue Chicago police officers. These police officers, in the wee hours of the morning, broke into these people's house, rounded them up, made them stand completely naked in the living room, searched every room. They were going through all their private stuff, ruining their furniture, ripping covers off of mattresses and going through their drawers. And then they arrest James Monroe, who was the father, detain him and question him for hours. "The family sues, and the Supreme Court said that yes, they get to sue the officers for what happened to them, because their rights very well may have been violated. The whole point of the existing law is that when an official abuses their position, there is some remedy outside of the criminal court to hold that official accountable." https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/87621...-immune-system I've been harping on the abuse of union power by a quasi-military force, & general un-accountability to the public they serve. |
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That would be a dream come true. That, or a day of us being able to say, "Handle your own problems. Don't call us.....for anything!"
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I will admit that I speed-read it, so.... Pretty interesting. But I hate to disappoint anyone: What I have posted disputes none of this article. I find my relation with cops to be similar to my relation with doctors: As people, I like them. Doctors are smart; most cops want to do good. It's when I am the subject of cops or doctors that I don't enjoy it. On pg 82 I said, "There is also the dynamic that says, "If they be looking at him now, they might be looking at me tomorrow". Some think less looking is the answer to this problem, rather than better looking." Nothing too radical, right? What happened next? Murf Shall we go forwards, or backwards? |
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The above is not indicative of exclusion, or ignoring, of other factors. I'm sorry my figures differed from yours, but such is life. I always include your rigorous theories when reaching my conclusions, as I also consider other sources. Murf Last edited by Littlebear; 04-06-2021 at 06:54 PM.. |
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Many of those same folks wish-for-better-politicians, too! (I wish my proctologist was better too) Murf PS: Some of us were "saving lives" at 15 yrs old. Literally. Last edited by Littlebear; 04-06-2021 at 06:53 PM.. |
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In all seriousness, empathy is something that makes us human. People lacking are classified as 'sociopaths', and then 'psychopaths'. My god father was under water, with not the slightest communication, for 6 months at a time. I understand the sacrifice, unfortunately. Murf PS: Do any of you really think I want to live here in Brklyn without lots of the fuzz?? Just one of the reasons we don't object too hard to high taxes.... Last edited by Littlebear; 04-06-2021 at 07:53 PM.. |
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