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992 GT3 Touring Revealed; Manual GT3's Banned from Sale in California

The 2022 Porsche 911 GT3 with Touring Package
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The new Porsche 911 GT3 with Touring Package – a subtler choice that retains every ounce of the excitement, the feel and the performance you expect.

The seventh edition of the 911 GT3 can now be ordered with the no-cost equipment package that was first introduced with its predecessor. The 911 GT3 with Touring Package is delivered with a seven-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) transmission as standard for the U.S. market, and a six-speed GT Sport manual transmission as a no-cost option in selected states.1 This marks the first time, the Touring Package is available with the seven-speed PDK dual-clutch transmission. Like on the predecessor, engine, transmission, suspension, wheels and tires on vehicles with the Touring Package are adopted from the regular 911 GT3.

The most obvious difference is the omission of the fixed rear wing of the 911 GT3. Instead, an automatically extending rear spoiler generates downforce at high speeds while maintaining an understated appearance. A bespoke grille unique to the package compliments the understated appearance. Silver trim strips made of high-gloss anodized aluminum on the side windows are another distinguishing feature. The front fascia is painted completely in the exterior color as compared to the black lower section of the standard GT3. The interior, which is unique to the GT3 with Touring Package, includes extended leather upholstery in black is particularly elegant. The front of the dashboard and the upper side sections of the door trim panels have special surface embossing.

The name “Touring Package” goes back to an equipment variant of the 911 Carrera RS from model year 1973. From the onset, the focus with this package was on pure 911 design and elements of a classic interior. Porsche revived the idea again in 2017, and for the first time again offered a Touring Package for the previous generation of the 911 GT3, the Type 991. Since then, this variant has appealed above all to lovers of top-class sports cars with a pronounced passion for understatement and classic driving pleasure.

Performance without the show: the exterior and interior details
Continuing the subtle theme, a subtle logo “GT3 touring” is located on the rear grille while trim strips of the side windows and the tailpipes of the sport exhaust system are colored in silver. These elements can also be finished in Satin Black in the optional exterior Touring Package. The lower front light modules are also dark-tinted with this selection.

The 911 GT3 with Touring Package also offers the atmosphere of a classic sports car on the inside. The steering wheel rim, gear/selector lever, center console lid, door panel armrests, and door handles are upholstered in black leather. Meanwhile, the seat centers are upholstered with fabric seat center panels, below head restraints bear embossed Porsche Crests. The door sill guards and trim elements on the dashboard and center console are made of brushed black aluminum. In addition, the 911 GT3 with Touring Package is now open for a significantly expanded degree of personalization. Options include several available colored leather upholsteries for the lower half of the interior in contrast to the upper dashboard. There, the leather surface is embossed to create an appearance specific to the Touring Package.

Porsche also offers almost all the optional equipment for the 911 GT3 in combination with the Touring Package. This includes all exterior and wheel colors, LED headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System and Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus, various driver’s assistance systems, Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB), a Smart Front Axle Lift system, the same seat types that are available on the standard 911 GT3, the Chrono package and an optional BOSEģ Surround Sound System

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Porsche Design also offers a very special chronograph for customers of the 911 GT3 with Touring Package. The timepiece features a movement with a flyback function. The winding rotor evokes the vehicle’s wheel design and is available in six different versions corresponding to the vehicle configuration. The dial bezel in Agate Grey Metallic is based on the vehicle’s paint finish. The dial itself has a matte black finish, while the luminous yellow chronograph hands match the color of the tachometer. The chronograph 911 GT3 with Touring Package is worn with a strap made of Porsche vehicle leather with “GT3” embossing. The black decorative stitching with Porsche vehicle thread gives the strap an additional finishing touch. The chronograph is produced by the company’s own Swiss watchmaking factory and is exclusively reserved for owners of the vehicle.

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*The seven-speed PDK gearbox will be the only transmission offered in California with the 911 GT3. For those who prefer three pedals and are located outside of California, a six-speed manual gearbox will continue to be available at no extra cost. The 2022 Porsche 911 GT3 with Touring Package is expected to begin arriving in early 2022 with a starting MSRP of $161,100 excluding $1,350 for delivery, processing, and handling.

1 Six-speed GT Sport manual transmission will not be available for sale in CA until further notice.
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We strive to offer as much choice as possible to meet and, we hope, exceed the expectations of our customers – and this extends to even our most focused model, the 911 GT3, which offers a greater range of personalization options than ever before. At the same time we have to fully accept and respect national and local guidelines in every market – not just in the U.S. but around the world.

Unfortunately, this precludes a manual gearbox option on the 911 GT3 in the state of California because of a sound regulation that is in the process of being updated. We had anticipated an updated regulation at time of launch, but this process is not yet complete. The seven-speed PDK option has received full certification. The manual gearbox will continue to be offered in every state outside of California.









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And yet another reason to leave that state....

Not a fan of chrome on a (high) performance sports car.

I understand the subdued nature and why people like it but if you're going to drive a GT3, let everyone know it's a GT3. The extroverted body, including the wing, is what makes it so cool to look at and drool over.
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Sound regulation...pretty soon a loud fart will get you fined.
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Sound regulation...pretty soon a loud fart will get you fined.
That settles it. Getting an xpipe on the e92 and doing donuts in front of the governors house
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Stein, is Porsche actually posting here on BP? I havenít found anything else.
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That settles it. Getting an xpipe on the e92 and doing donuts in front of the governors house
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And yet another reason to leave that state....

Not a fan of chrome on a (high) performance sports car.

I understand the subdued nature and why people like it but if you're going to drive a GT3, let everyone know it's a GT3. The extroverted body, including the wing, is what makes it so cool to look at and drool over.
Letís just hope those leaving donít forget why theyíre leaving.
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Does a manual GT3 have a different exhaust which is louder than the PDK version ? Or maybe it has to do with the unburned fuel causing pops and bangs ? I understand this process is harder to control with the manual. I think Porsche would have overcome this problem eventually, but given how poorly the manual version sells in California, they probably couldn't be bothered. But on the other hand Porsche could have increased how many manuals they sell by charging extra for the PDK, because "no extra charge for the manual" feels like a ripoff, which it is.
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Does a manual GT3 have a different exhaust which is louder than the PDK version ? Or maybe it has to do with the unburned fuel causing pops and bangs ? I understand this process is harder to control with the manual. I think Porsche would have overcome this problem eventually, but given how poorly the manual version sells in California, they probably couldn't be bothered. But on the other hand Porsche could have increased how many manuals they sell by charging extra for the PDK, because "no extra charge for the manual" feels like a ripoff, which it is.
I'm not certain but possibly cruising noise due to different gearing.
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Around the 41-minute mark Jason Cammisa explains a "Drive by Noise Regulation" that causes weird gearing in the GT4/Spyder, possibly could be the reason for this ban of the GT3 Manual. Obviously with the PDK being an Auto versus a Manual and having an extra gear, the PDK benefits more and passes this regulation easier.

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That settles it. Getting an xpipe on the e92 and doing donuts in front of the governors house
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Does a manual GT3 have a different exhaust which is louder than the PDK version ? Or maybe it has to do with the unburned fuel causing pops and bangs ? I understand this process is harder to control with the manual. I think Porsche would have overcome this problem eventually, but given how poorly the manual version sells in California, they probably couldn't be bothered. But on the other hand Porsche could have increased how many manuals they sell by charging extra for the PDK, because "no extra charge for the manual" feels like a ripoff, which it is.
they sold more manual GT3s than PDK for the 991.2 generation. I think like 60 some percent were manual. If you spec the touring option you only get a manual. In addition the manuals also sell for more than the autos on the used market like any other sports car.

i dont think charging extra for pdk would would up the manual take rate. people spending this kinda money don't care... they want what they want. 99% of buyers dont' need $8k ceramic brakes yet over 50% of people ordered them.

as for the sound. its probably due to the cruising noise on the highway. having a 7th gear brings the rpms down a bit more.
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Let’s just hope those leaving don’t forget why they’re leaving.
They won't, they never do.

Does this preclude somebody from just buying out of state and titling in CA? If not, can't imagine it's that big of a deal for somebody who wants one.
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Here's the reason; https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...9HRaTimxkjDW8g

Waiting for CHP to update to the new test standards that came out in May 2020....

Still confused on how it is just now affecting any cars when it didn't before?
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They won't, they never do.

Does this preclude somebody from just buying out of state and titling in CA? If not, can't imagine it's that big of a deal for somebody who wants one.
according to what i'm reading on the porsche forums you cannot even register a manual trans 992 gt3 in california currently.

edit: technically i think the montana plate / LLC thing would still work. Although that may more of a used market route. Porsche has told dealers not to sell to anyone buying a car with a california address.
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Sound regulation...pretty soon a loud fart will get you fined.
Not just for sound, but an additional fine will be given for contributing to climate change.
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Soon in CA you will be getting fined for driving manually like in iRobot (using the steering wheel and gas pedal, and not autopilot)

On a real note, love the GT3 whether it is touring or not. Both incredible. I love the paint matched front end better on the touring and for a swan neck delete, the active spoiler on the touring is gorgeous. Only gripe is the chrome trim, as I didn't see an option for gloss black on the configurator.
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they sold more manual GT3s than PDK for the 991.2 generation. I think like 60 some percent were manual. If you spec the touring option you only get a manual. In addition the manuals also sell for more than the autos on the used market like any other sports car.

i dont think charging extra for pdk would would up the manual take rate. people spending this kinda money don't care... they want what they want. 99% of buyers dont' need $8k ceramic brakes yet over 50% of people ordered them.

as for the sound. its probably due to the cruising noise on the highway. having a 7th gear brings the rpms down a bit more.
Forget ceramics, 100% of buyers don't need a Porsche, especially a Porsche 911 GT3. They want what they want. First world problem.
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I have no idea why but ...meh. Is it just me or do all the 992 models look the same? Debadged i can barely tell a base Carrera from a wingless GT3.

Mark my words, in 25 years the 992 will not be....how do you say..... i dunno..... I think 997.2 and 991.2 will be the high water mark.
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