[2045]

Originally Posted by E92LNGCGY

Agreed. If the F31 had a 335 option with M Sport I would be at the dealer tomorrow.

i'm going though the pain. i would be at dealer now if the F31 335/340 is available.

can't believe i'm saying this but i'm even considering an E84 X1 35i over F31 328i simply because the engine choice.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by 2045

i'm going though the pain. i would be at dealer now if the F31 335/340 is available.

can't believe i'm saying this but i'm even considering an E84 X1 35i over F31 328i simply because the engine choice.

Then you should be taking the transmission into consideration as well, I'd rather have the ZF8HP/N20 over the ZF6HP/N55.

The best alternative would be the X3 since the F25 is cheaper then the F31 when comparably configured. A decently optioned F31 340i would be well into the 60s and an every option box checked F25 35i is $64k.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Then you should be taking the transmission into consideration as well, I'd rather have the ZF8HP/N20 over the ZF6HP/N55.

The best alternative would be the X3 since the F25 is cheaper then the F31 when comparably configured. A decently optioned F31 340i would be well into the 60s and an every option box checked F25 35i is $64k.

The 8S is nice for efficiency, but doesn't appear to help performance. E90 N55 cars with the 6s were as fast or faster than the marginally lighter F30 with the N55.

And an X3 is 300 pounds heavier than an E84 and 400 pounds heavier than the F31 with the N20. If only we got a rwd F31 with the N55/B58.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

The 8S is nice for efficiency, but doesn't appear to help performance. E90 N55 cars with the 6s were as fast or faster than the marginally lighter F30 with the N55.

Performance is part of what it brings to the table, including being faster. It's 2.5 kg lighter, shifts are only 200ms and it can shift non-sequentially.

http://www.zf.com/corporate/en_de/pr...enjoyment.html

Originally Posted by Red Bread

And an X3 is 300 pounds heavier than an E84 and 400 pounds heavier than the F31 with the N20. If only we got a rwd F31 with the N55/B58.

The N55 more then makes up for the 400 pound weight difference with the F31 328i and by BMWs own numbers, both the X3 35i and E84 X1 35i both do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, despite being 300 pounds heavier, could have something to do with that ZF8HP.

You do have to deal with a bit more bulk, but you also gain a lot of useable space as well. Just depends on what you want.

[Red Bread]

0-60 times are BMW's own numbers. Real world numbers say otherwise.

But both are suitably fast, it's not worth getting too excited about.

The X3 is much better finished out than the E84 and likely the F48 too. It's bigger than what we want, and certainly much heavier, but it is a nice car.

[ShinySteelRobot]

Today BMW posted some new X1 M Sport photos on their website at bmwusa.com. Enjoy!

Interestingly the first photo looks like a bad PhotoShop job, IMHO...

[GuyOh]

for crying out loud, I can't wait to see real life CLEAR pictures of Msport

[NealcpLA]

Great pics and info! These are the Euro specs...Those seats won't be coming to US and the stiffened and lowered suspension (M-Sport suspension) will be included in all X1's. Also, I am told, you can order your M-Sport in any of the X1 color combinations plus that special blue color...

[TonySCV]

Now I'm confused... so the US-spec standard X1 seats will have adjustable thigh bolsters? Or is that only for the sport seats in the M performance package?

I've seen these M-Sport seats (which according to the above are euro spec):



These seats which are X-line seats in Europe... I have no idea if they are standard in the US or not:



And these seats which appear to be the standard base model seats:



So which is/are the US getting?

[Mord Mckee]

Good looking... don't like the chrome in the "kidneys"

[Toybota]

Originally Posted by Mord Mckee

Good looking... don't like the chrome in the "kidneys"

They'll sell us "///M Performance" black kidneys for $300.

Would love to see what a Black Sapphire Metallic X1 M sport with black kidney grilles look like.

[JoeyO]

Tony SCV I think the only way to get sport seats is by getting the M-Sport package in the USA.

[mattssi]

Is that even an option? I don't see it in the configuration tool. I just ordered one too and had no option to do so.

[JoeyO]

Originally Posted by mattssi

Is that even an option? I don't see it in the configuration tool. I just ordered one too and had no option to do so.

What? The M-Sport package? It's not fully integrated into the USA configurator yet, but if you select either the 570M or 572M tires under options, it will give you the M-Sport features. Plus it adds the price of M-Sport into the total price.

[gymrat50]

Does anyone know when the arrival date for the X1 M Sport in the USA will happen? The original date was supposed to be 11/15/2015, but it looks like this date has been slipped. Also, the photos of a LHD M Sport show grey leather seats. Will this be available in the USA? Thanks in advance for your help.

[haynstyleM2]

Originally Posted by gymrat50

Does anyone know when the arrival date for the X1 M Sport in the USA will happen? The original date was supposed to be 11/15/2015, but it looks like this date has been slipped. Also, the photos of a LHD M Sport show grey leather seats. Will this be available in the USA? Thanks in advance for your help.

I heard early next year now but not 100% sure; have to follow up with my CA. I originally was going to get the M Sport X1 but I don't know what the heck they were thinking of when making that rear bumper; big negative on that!

[gymrat50]

Originally Posted by haynstylem4

I heard early next year now but not 100% sure; have to follow up with my CA. I originally was going to get the M Sport X1 but I don't know what the heck they were thinking of when making that rear bumper; big negative on that!

Thanks...I can live with the strange rear bumper setup, too many other goodies to pass up. I drove an xDrive last week, the standard seats are terrible. Otherwise, I was very impressed with the car....

[40oz.]

Originally Posted by gymrat50

Does anyone know when the arrival date for the X1 M Sport in the USA will happen? The original date was supposed to be 11/15/2015, but it looks like this date has been slipped. Also, the photos of a LHD M Sport show grey leather seats. Will this be available in the USA? Thanks in advance for your help.

My wife's X1 msport is being produced the first week of December. We won't be shipping it to the states til January but we know for sure that we'll get it in December.

[JoeyO]

I actually don't like the looks of the M-Sport. The colored panels near the ground make it look fat and like a bloated pig. It looks less like a SUV and more like a station wagon (estate). But I'll likely get it because it's the only way to get the sport seats (here in the USA).

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by 2045

i'm going though the pain. i would be at dealer now if the F31 335/340 is available.

can't believe i'm saying this but i'm even considering an E84 X1 35i over F31 328i simply because the engine choice.

Same here

[Ganxxta]

Originally Posted by JoeyO

I actually don't like the looks of the M-Sport. The colored panels near the ground make it look fat and like a bloated pig. It looks less like a SUV and more like a station wagon (estate). But I'll likely get it because it's the only way to get the sport seats (here in the USA).

Don't you get the Sport line in the US? Looks way better especially at the back compared to M-Sport.

[DeltaFX1942]

Originally Posted by Ganxxta

Don't you get the Sport line in the US? Looks way better especially at the back compared to M-Sport.

No - US is only xLine or M-Sport, and currently only the xLine is available. Without paddle shifters or sport seats. I would much prefer the Sport line as well.