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      10-15-2020, 09:10 PM   #45
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Diameter. Caliper is just too big. I'll just keep this and move the tires around if I get a front flat.
Filing under "R" for "Rationalization" - it's arguably safer to put the emergency spare on the rear, even if just driving to the nearest service point.

Just how much more is needed to clear? 1/2" (18" wheel)? 1" (19)?

Disappointing, because that wheel has a great hub profile. Very unlike others.
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      10-16-2020, 07:45 AM   #46
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You have the M model X2, right? Those have different brakes than the x and s drive
Yes but was told the spare would fit. Well, they were half right... :-/

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I agree, the scissor jack looks safer. Iíll look for one of those
I think yes but marginally. It's not substantially wider than the other jack and the problem is the side to side stability rather than front to back. Important thing is to jack on a solid level surface, engage hand brake, use wheel stops (or a rock) then jack up. Remember to loosen the bolts before jacking.
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      10-16-2020, 07:48 AM   #47
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Filing under "R" for "Rationalization" - it's arguably safer to put the emergency spare on the rear, even if just driving to the nearest service point.

Just how much more is needed to clear? 1/2" (18" wheel)? 1" (19)?

Disappointing, because that wheel has a great hub profile. Very unlike others.
I agree and maybe more so in our cars since they are FWD biased.

Can't say. Maybe 18" but 19" for sure.

Yeah disappointing, but I'll just keep and use it.
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      10-16-2020, 12:41 PM   #48
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Yes but was told the spare would fit. Well, they were half right... :-/
I believe the listed compatibility is based on the 5x112 and centerbore match. While many German cars are 5x112, the centerbores are all over the map.

Audi/VW wheels look ok until you realize their holes are 57.1mm, while the X2 requires 66.6.

OTOH, the 18" spare BMW wheels are spec'ed for the X5/E70 and have a 74.1 mm hole.

I guess we can hope BMW stops shipping runflats and makes a proper-clearance wheel available. Yeah, right.


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I think yes but marginally. {scissors jack is} not substantially wider than the other jack and the problem is the side to side stability rather than front to back. Important thing is to jack on a solid level surface, engage hand brake, use wheel stops (or a rock) then jack up. Remember to loosen the bolts before jacking.
So, many/most of the aftermarket scissors jacks have a lug on top which can rotate, unlike the articulated compact one. This allows the jack to be aligned on-axis to any lift angle or uneven ground, at least a little. In my opinion this significantly increases the safety factor, if the jack is otherwise sound. There are, um, many poor ones.

Safety first, always. Be sure to keep the jack screw, thrust bearing and pivot pins clean and properly lubricated.
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      10-24-2020, 06:59 PM   #49
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I put my winter set on today, so I took the opportunity to test the Mercedes spare wheel even tho that I am still waiting for the tire.

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It fits and it clears the caliper on the side.

It's not completed yet, I am still waiting for:
- washers to convert conical seat to ball seat
- longer bolts (oe is 28mm I think, I'll need either 43mm or 45mm)
- spare tire.

About the tire, the wheel width is 5.5". I planned to go with a tire 155/70R19. However, the cargo space is too tight. I don't think it will fit, unless I have to remove the mat under it. I hope that I won't have issues to put 135 tire on 5.5" wheel.

Same for the diameter, the space in the trunk is a bit less than 27". The 155/70 tire is 27.5". I'll go with 135/70R19. Its diameter is 26.4".
Fingers crossed.

I should of go with the Mercedes 19x4.5 to but with the offset of 35mm, I was not sure if it would fit.

I'll keep you posted when I'll have the tire. Special order takes 3 to 4 weeks.
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      10-24-2020, 08:21 PM   #50
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- washers to convert conical seat to ball seat
- longer bolts (oe is 28mm I think, I'll need either 43mm or 45mm)
Would Mercedes wheel bolts themselves, work to accomplish both these? Just an idea.
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      10-24-2020, 08:56 PM   #51
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Would Mercedes wheel bolts themselves, work to accomplish both these? Just an idea.
No. I did my homework
Mercedes and Audi bolts have 1.5 thread. BMW is 1.25.

I found a website that sell the M14x1.25 conical seat. But the max length they have is 39mm.
Based on my measurements, 43mm would be ok. But I want to wait for the washer to confirm the real thickness.
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      10-25-2020, 07:50 AM   #52
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No two German brands quite alike, eh? Grrr...
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did my spare tire retrofit and ordered all the parts. item8 would make it impossible to install the spare tire as trunk space is very tight
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Yeah, I don't get item 8. Is it a bracket to hold down the item 2 tool organizer, bolting to the left side of the well?
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Yeah, I don't get item 8. Is it a bracket to hold down the item 2 tool organizer, bolting to the left side of the well?
look closely at my pic 12'o clock of the wheel near the carpet, there is a cut out i made for item 8, its bolted between the 2 carpet hinges but it makes installing the spare wheel impossible. design flaw? two years on i still cant figure out how it will work, since the bolt is blacked out in the parts catalog, maybe #8 should just be inserted onto the slot but i ended up returning it to my dealer.
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Oh, that arrow on the diagram lower right is indicating the forward direction in the car. Weird bracket indeed!

So does the long wingnut bolt go through the center of the cover, and hold the whole assembly to the floor? The bracket seems completely unnecessary if so.
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Oh, that arrow on the diagram lower right is indicating the forward direction in the car. Weird bracket indeed!

So does the long wingnut bolt go through the center of the cover, and hold the whole assembly to the floor? The bracket seems completely unnecessary if so.
yes, there is a hole on the floor underneath the carpet (which you need to drill through). the spare tire is so snug, its hard to put in, you dont actually need the wingnut anymore, the spare wheel wont even likely to move if you roll over
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      11-03-2020, 05:32 PM   #58
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I have a question for those of you who have put the spare wheel in the trunk...

Did you have to remove the mat or kind of carpet in the bottom to make the wheel fit?

I did not want to force anything, so with this mat removed the wheel fit correctly. The tire I have is 135/70/19. It is the same tire width as the 17" spare wheel that I saw from other posts.
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I believe the mat is not there in cars with factory spares, so it is entirely possible that the fit will be tight. The diameter and profile of your 19" tire may put things over the edge?

Here's the 17-inch BMW wheel with 135-90/17 compact, it has about 1/2" of clearance front-to-back:
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I believe the mat is not there in cars with factory spares, so it is entirely possible that the fit will be tight. The diameter and profile of your 19" tire may put things over the edge?
Thanks for the picture. In other cars I had in the past, there was no mat under the spare wheel. So it's not a big deal. I was curious to compare. In my opinion, the mat is only needed when we use it as cargo space.

You are probably right about my 19" wheel profile, but not due to the diameter, but more to its thickness.

The 135/90/17 has a theorical diameter of 26.6". 135/70/19 is supposed to be 26.4". I think there are still a bit clearance in the depression area.

But it's the thickness of the tire that blocks the wheel to go further in that depression. I am just surprised because I thought the same 135 tire width should be the same. I guess it's the wheel width of 5.5" that changes the shape of the tire a bit.

Another question, does your spare tire have to be inflated at 60psi too? When I tried the tire alone, it went in no problem.

This could be another reason. I could deflate the tire a bit, but I don't want to have an air pump and the hassle to pump it when I need it.

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//TMT: that is the trunk of an X2M5? and that spare will fit over the brakes? Front or rear? This is a BMW wheel and would work on the M35. I am leasing but this maybe in my future soon. I always get a little nervous on longer drives. don't even need a jack if AAA will come and change the tire although a jack and lug wrench is a handy thing to have
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//TMT: that is the trunk of an X2M5? and that spare will fit over the brakes? Front or rear? This is a BMW wheel and would work on the M35. I am leasing but this maybe in my future soon. I always get a little nervous on longer drives. don't even need a jack if AAA will come and change the tire although a jack and lug wrench is a handy thing to have
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This is the trunk of my X2 M35i.
This Mercedes spare wheel fits over the front brakes. You can see the closer picture in my post #49 above (I tried it before I received the tire).

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So far, this is the list of what I needed for this spare wheel:

- Mercedes W164 spare wheel 19x5.5.
I bought it for $175 USD on Ebay without the tire.
Most of them has the tire with it, but it won't fit.
Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/07-11-Merce...AAAOSwDHNfA101
There are some 19x4.5 Mercedes wheel too. I think they are better suited for the 135 tire width than mine.

- Kumho tire 135/70/19
I am from Canada, so I ordered from here:
https://www.wheelwiz.ca/tires/kumho/...-spare/2158963
Probably ~$105 USD.

- 5x Wheel Lug Ball Seat Conversion Washers For Conical Bolts
~ $1 each.
I ordered from here: https://www.urotuning.com/products/w...=8385621426231

- 5x M14x1.25 Extended Length Wheel Bolts (45mm)
$2.59 each.
Example: https://www.bimmerworld.com/Extended...Bolts-M14.html
The bolts are in the mail, I am still waiting for it. Based on my measurement (to compensate for the thicker wheel and about 2mm for the washer), it should have the exact same depth in the car as the stock bolts.

I still have to buy the jack. For the wrech, I plan to put in the trunk the 24" breaker bar and the 17 mm socket that I use to swap my summer/winter wheels.

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//TMT: that is the trunk of an X2M5? and that spare will fit over the brakes? Front or rear? This is a BMW wheel and would work on the M35. I am leasing but this maybe in my future soon. I always get a little nervous on longer drives. don't even need a jack if AAA will come and change the tire although a jack and lug wrench is a handy thing to have
Thanks for this picture
This is a pic of my own car, yep. 2020 X2 M35i. It has (had!) 19" runflats, no spare, and the felt lining installed in the lower well, as can be seen.

The 17" BMW wheel mentioned earlier fits only on the rear axle. In the front, it does not clear the brakes. The centerbore is correct.

If I have a flat, and it's in front, I will remove the corresponding rear wheel, install the spare, and move the wheel to the front. Yes, it's extra work. No, I don't ever expect to have to do it.
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As an alternative to trnguyen 's possibly superior solution, here's what I ordered for mine:

17" BMW spare wheel
from ECS Tuning https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...l/36116851507/
$67 with free shipping

135-90/D17 Kumho compact spare
from Tire Rack https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...rtnum=39R7KHV2
$94 free shipping

Scissors jack from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Xinner-Univer.../dp/B07NVBDNXM
$23 (I like this one because it has a cast drive head not stamped, solid crank not stupid folding, and a rotating lift point to fit the frame pockets

I already had the lug wrench (17mm bolt heads). Had my tire guy supply the stem and mount the tire, whole project $185.
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Sorry. I thought the question was for me.

I would not say mine is a superior solution. It's more about my lazyness.
I just don't want to swap the wheels if I have a flat with the front wheel when it's like minus 10 Celsius outside.

I wish that I will not have to use it, but knowing the road conditions where I live, I want to be safe.
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