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      06-24-2021, 02:31 PM   #947
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Yeah, the old soft touch turn signal stalks was so nice. Luckily, its possible to do the soft touch stalks retrofit for F-/G-series with mechanical stalks and auto dim mirror, but its annoying that BMW are trying to save some money on these things.
I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
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I'm really excited for the new 2er coupe!
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I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
Internet car reviewers love to trash this design, but it's because they're stupid and have to find something to complain about. I always loved the self-centering stalks, they look and feel premium. You get used to them within minutes, it's not that complicated. My Alfa has it, very refreshing. You can tell that Alfa really tried emulating the E90 in many ways.
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So will the G81 M3 be coming to US?

I did a quick search and all I see is a petition..

Has anyone confirmed if we will get it!?
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Try to buy that mirror. $450 ����*♂️
I know, but its totally worth it.

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I've heard they ditched the stalks because of Driving Assistant features. Not sure the exact reason.

I like the now-old self-centering function a lot. It's low key genius.
I did the touch stalks retrofit for an G20 with all Driving Assistant options. Everything works perfect. I think they did it because they wanted to save money or the "new FWD-BMW" owners complained about them.

I really miss the touch column stalks - BMW, please bring them back! At least as an option.

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      06-24-2021, 04:49 PM   #952
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I did the touch stalks retrofit for an G20 with all Driving Assistant options. Everything works perfect. I think they did it because they wanted to save money or the "new FWD-BMW" owners complained about them.

I really miss the touch column stalks - BMW, please bring them back! At least as an option.
Looks pro dude
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Internet car reviewers love to trash this design, but it's because they're stupid and have to find something to complain about. I always loved the self-centering stalks, they look and feel premium. You get used to them within minutes, it's not that complicated. My Alfa has it, very refreshing. You can tell that Alfa really tried emulating the E90 in many ways.
Exactly! Also, I just find that it allows me to use less force and less fingers - for the lack of better word - to operate stalk due to the shorter travel of the stalk itself.

It's those little things that make a big difference.
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Has BMW ever even considered the idea of a M4 Grand Coupe?
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So will the G81 M3 be coming to US?

I did a quick search and all I see is a petition..

Has anyone confirmed if we will get it!?
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Has BMW ever even considered the idea of a M4 Grand Coupe?
Hard no in both cases. Only a lot of baseless rumors.
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Every single car is going to get the new dash screens with deleted climate buttons. Going to be a dealbreaker for everything.
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I might be old school, but my German car "Made in Mexico" …seems… yeah, I'm not going to say it.
Let's hope they don't expand their factories to other weird places like the US or China...
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Let's hope they don't expand their factories to other weird places like the US or China...
Or India, Brazil, South Africa and Austria

They would never do this
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Has BMW ever even considered the idea of a M4 Grand Coupe?
We have the M4 Gran Coupe. Although It's the i4 M50. It looks seriously fast on a track.
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So will the G81 M3 be coming to US?

I did a quick search and all I see is a petition..

Has anyone confirmed if we will get it!?
No G81 in the North American market.
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We have the M4 Gran Coupe. Although It's the i4 M50. It looks seriously fast on a track.
Well it's an "M Performance" model and I'm not interested in EVs.
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This is super informative. Thank you!
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We have the M4 Gran Coupe. Although It's the i4 M50. It looks seriously fast on a track.
No we don't. We have the i4 M50, just like you said.
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No we don't. We have the i4 M50, just like you said.
Really makes you wonder what the internal discussions were on this.

So no M4 GC, instead they made the high performance electric in the gran coupe form. They went as far as putting a lot of M model specific things on it like the mirrors (never seen that on M performance model before), seats look damn close to the M seats...
But WHY not just make it the iM4??? give it that little extra power the IX M60 will have, full blown M hood, wider rear, full M interior. Charge $80,000 for it. OR maybe thats coming in 1-2 years
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Really makes you wonder what the internal discussions were on this.

So no M4 GC, instead they made the high performance electric in the gran coupe form. They went as far as putting a lot of M model specific things on it like the mirrors (never seen that on M performance model before),
The regular M440i Gran Coupe has the same M performance things, and its market release is earlier.

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But WHY not just make it the iM4??? give it that little extra power the IX M60 will have, full blown M hood, wider rear, full M interior. Charge $80,000 for it. OR maybe thats coming in 1-2 years
Who knows, maybe they'll do that. I guess it makes sense to not introduce the highest tier right away, the high-performance M models always come later.
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But WHY not just make it the iM4???
Because BMW is an internal mess right now trying to onboard a new CEO and get all the product lines aligned to his vision of the future?

I'm speculating, but when a new CEO replaces a guy who was barely there for 4 years it ain't to keep all the same projects & products.
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Because BMW is an internal mess right now trying to onboard a new CEO and get all the product lines aligned to his vision of the future?

I'm speculating, but when a new CEO replaces a guy who was barely there for 4 years it ain't to keep all the same projects & products.
I don't know - I understand y'all get worked up on the M mirrors, but this seems to be a decision probably made by somebody at M GmbH well below the BMW CEO.

Also, Zipse has been CEO for almost two years now, it's not like he showed up a few weeks ago and said "from now on we'll put M mirrors on every M performance model".
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Also, Zipse has been CEO for almost two years now, it's not like he showed up a few weeks ago and said "from now on we'll put M mirrors on every M performance model".
Almost 2 years? Dude, FYI, that's about 2 years short of the time it takes to restructure product lines at an industrial manufacturing business. You gotta replace / restructure / redirect the people - that'll typically be 6-9 months. Then the new/newly directed people have to come up with and get approvals on the new direction - that's another 6-9 months. Then you have to start making the changes - that could take 1-2 years or longer depending on the timelines, supply chains, existing product life & sales cycles.

So, yeah, 3-4 years minimum.

On my last tour of the Munich plant (2018) they showed us robots being re-programmed and told us it typically takes 9-12 months to set them up & complete all of the testing ... so there's the time before that when they're designing & getting approvals, the actual set up design, then the set up & testing, and then - assuming supply chains are aligned, which is a bigh assumption nowadays - production can start.

BMW product cycles are 7-8 years.
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