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View Poll Results: Is the Biden Family corrupt and selling/benefiting from government influence?
Corrupt without question and benefitting from government influence. 64 81.01%
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      01-26-2020, 06:14 PM   #133
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In that case, every rich/powerful family in this country is corrupt - to include career politicians.

This simply isn't true. I know may honest politicians on the local and state level. People of conscience who believe in the rule of law and serving their constituents. Unfortunately, they are few and far between.

Except for the part about career politicians. Politics shouldn't be a career. It should be a temporary service to one's community. Honest Career Politician is one of the biggest oxymorons in our lexicon.
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They shouldn't make crap up like Biden Family Corruption.
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Hope you don't mind a little turnabout as fair play...
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      01-26-2020, 09:06 PM   #138
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Good one MK!!!
Hope you don't mind a little turnabout as fair play...
I expect nothing less. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
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This simply isn't true. I know may honest politicians on the local and state level. People of conscience who believe in the rule of law and serving their constituents. Unfortunately, they are few and far between.

Except for the part about career politicians. Politics shouldn't be a career. It should be a temporary service to one's community. Honest Career Politician is one of the biggest oxymorons in our lexicon.
Every rich and powerful family uses their money, power and influence to the benefit of their family members. That seems to be what your definition of "corruption" is, so.........

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Every rich and powerful family uses their money, power and influence to the benefit of their family members. That seems to be what your definition of "corruption" is, so.........

The next time I take a trip on Air Force One or a VC-20 or some such, please count me in that group. I put very strict parameters around this. I'm talking about leveraging a familial relationship with, arguably, the 2nd most powerful elected leader in the world. What you posted above MAY fall into that group but for the other 99.9999999% of us who don't have that relationship, it doesn't.
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The next time I take a trip on Air Force One or a VC-20 or some such, please count me in that group. I put very strict parameters around this. I'm talking about leveraging a familial relationship with, arguably, the 2nd most powerful elected leader in the world. What you posted above MAY fall into that group but for the other 99.9999999% of us who don't have that relationship, it doesn't.
You're better than this, MK.

Or I thought you were, at least.

I made no mention of you, so whether you rode on AF2 is irrelevant. No, you put absolutely no parameters around this prior to the above post.

I said "Are his direct family members profiting from the name and Joe's past/possible future positions? Without question."

To which you replied "And while it may not break the law, it is certainly corrupt."

Every rich and powerful family profits from a prestigious name, familial connections and gambles about future family importance. Full stop.

You can feel free to argue about at which level that behavior becomes unacceptable, I'll pass on the subject moral argument, thanks.
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      01-27-2020, 10:55 AM   #142
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You're better than this, MK.

Or I thought you were, at least.

I made no mention of you, so whether you rode on AF2 is irrelevant. No, you put absolutely no parameters around this prior to the above post.

I said "Are his direct family members profiting from the name and Joe's past/possible future positions? Without question."

To which you replied "And while it may not break the law, it is certainly corrupt."

Every rich and powerful family profits from a prestigious name, familial connections and gambles about future family importance. Full stop.

You can feel free to argue about at which level that behavior becomes unacceptable, I'll pass on the subject moral argument, thanks.
You are incorrect on the emboldened. I've placed it in other posts.

I'm using myself and my family as examples and I know plenty of others who have a similar record of not resorting to corruption.

Biden and his family are corrupt. The record of their behavior speaks for itself. I think you know this or should. If not...I'm truly disappointed.

And with regard to your statement on morality, where do laws descend from...our agreed upon societal mores or morality.
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You are incorrect on the emboldened. I've placed it in other posts.
In our discussion here? I missed it - can you point it out?



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I'm using myself and my family as examples and I know plenty of others who have a similar record of not resorting to corruption.
If you say so.


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Biden and his family are corrupt. The record of their behavior speaks for itself. I think you know this or should. If not...I'm truly disappointed.

And with regard to your statement on morality, where do laws descend from...our agreed upon societal mores or morality.
Get back to me when any of the Bidens break a law, in that case.

I'm not losing sleep over Ivanka's Chinese patents, Trump doubling the membership fees at Mar a Lago, the sweetheart bailout that Jared got for his 666 Fifth disaster, Nikki Haley's position on the Boeing board, etc, I certainly won't lose any sleep about Hunter's now-ended Board position.
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In our discussion here? I missed it - can you point it out?

If you say so.

Get back to me when any of the Bidens break a law, in that case.

I'm not losing sleep over Ivanka's Chinese patents, Trump doubling the membership fees at Mar a Lago, the sweetheart bailout that Jared got for his 666 Fifth disaster, Nikki Haley's position on the Boeing board, etc, I certainly won't lose any sleep about Hunter's now-ended Board position.
Not in our discussion here but in previous posts about corruption in our elected leaders. Will find after lunch. Taking meds to an ill friend. Be back later.
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I'm not losing sleep over Ivanka's Chinese patents, Trump doubling the membership fees at Mar a Lago, the sweetheart bailout that Jared got for his 666 Fifth disaster, Nikki Haley's position on the Boeing board, etc, I certainly won't lose any sleep about Hunter's now-ended Board position.
This is the crux of the "but the Bidens are criminally corrupt!" argument that I find the funniest. Those that are certain of the Bidens corruptness fail to focus in on the family who is actually in power right now.
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Not in our discussion here but in previous posts about corruption in our elected leaders. Will find after lunch. Taking meds to an ill friend. Be back later.
If it's not in this thread/our discussion I probably missed it and don't really think it's a reasonable assumption I would be aware of it. No need to dig it up.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to your friend. Sorry to hear it.
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Taking meds to an ill friend. Be back later.
Coronas and LIME?
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If it's not in this thread/our discussion I probably missed it and don't really think it's a reasonable assumption I would be aware of it. No need to dig it up.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to your friend. Sorry to hear it.
Fair enough on the first point. Thanks on the second.

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Fair enough on the first point. Thanks on the second...


If recent events teach us nothing else, it's that no one is promised tomorrow. Spend time with the folks that matter now.

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Well said!
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Still waiting this evidence of corruption.
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Still waiting this evidence of corruption.
I thought Rudy was going to release it over the weekend?
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