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      08-30-2019, 11:38 AM   #23
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It's funny because when you see one you think that there can't be a lower SUV and then you pull up next to one in an X2.
my E84 X1 ...
That has to be one of the shortest "SUVs" ever, every time I park next to one I always forget how small the E84 X1 was.

Reminds me when C/D compared the specs/dimensions to a 3er Wagon and found them to be very similar!
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And the X2 is 4" shorter than the old X1. I know FWD architecture is blasphemy in the traditional BMW world, but I really think it suits the new X1/2 because of how proportional they look now.
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And the X2 is 4" shorter than the old X1. I know FWD architecture is blasphemy in the traditional BMW world, but I really think it suits the new X1/2 because of how proportional they look now.
I'm actually quite a fan of the X2. I've tested in both 28 and M35 trims and found it to drive really well, and feel quite peppy, almost like a tall hot hatch, and really like the looks, even with it having a "disgraced" MINI FWD platform.

Despite this though, its too pricey, so if you want a hot hatch buy a GTI, if you want an SUV, buy the X1, thats where the problem is with the X2.

I've seen more loaner badged X2's as well as CarMax/used X2's than actual X2's that have owners. I can definitely see why its on BMW's list of cars that may end production after this generation.
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I thought about getting a golf R but I really liked the m35i since I heard about it. Youíre right though, not many in the wild. I think the engine will end up as a mid tier option in anything with a 4 cylinder, basically making the stock b46 the 20i then the 35i engine with an msport i6 being the upper non full m version.

Weíre probably just guinea pigs for reliability studies.

Iím all for it though, it will bring parts faster when more platforms have it.
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I'm actually quite a fan of the X2. I've tested in both 28 and M35 trims and found it to drive really well, and feel quite peppy, almost like a tall hot hatch, and really like the looks, even with it having a "disgraced" MINI FWD platform.

Despite this though, its too pricey, so if you want a hot hatch buy a GTI, if you want an SUV, buy the X1, thats where the problem is with the X2.

I've seen more loaner badged X2's as well as CarMax/used X2's than actual X2's that have owners. I can definitely see why its on BMW's list of cars that may end production after this generation.
I agree! The X2 should only be sold in the M35i trim and marketed as the sportier version of the X1. I never considered the base X2 and in fact it was cross-shopped against the G20 330i Xdrive.

Why do you think it's pricey?
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I'm actually quite a fan of the X2. I've tested in both 28 and M35 trims and found it to drive really well, and feel quite peppy, almost like a tall hot hatch, and really like the looks, even with it having a "disgraced" MINI FWD platform.

Despite this though, its too pricey, so if you want a hot hatch buy a GTI, if you want an SUV, buy the X1, thats where the problem is with the X2.

I've seen more loaner badged X2's as well as CarMax/used X2's than actual X2's that have owners. I can definitely see why its on BMW's list of cars that may end production after this generation.
I agree! The X2 should only be sold in the M35i trim and marketed as the sportier version of the X1. I never considered the base X2 and in fact it was cross-shopped against the G20 330i Xdrive.

Why do you think it's pricey?
Because its at least $50k or more to get a reasonably optioned X2 M35i. The 28i trim is fair price wise in its class, but I'd have a hard time justifying purchasing an X2 M35i, when its small, cramped, less practical and has less visibility than say a normal SUV, while still not being as fun as a hot hatch.

I just think for the money, a GTI/Golf R could provide more thrills with similar practicality for less, or a regular SUV would provide better utility for the same price, hell even a 4GC could be equipped for a similar price but provide RWD and still decent utility.

The X2 is just one of those cars where its the answer to a question no one asked.
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You can get a much better price if you work for it. Mine was 4K less than sticker even after taxes.
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I got almost $4K off sticker plus will get the USAA discount. Too bad you canít also add the BMWCCA rebate.
I donít consider the X2 cramped, it feels very much like the M2 inside, snug. Just right for spirited driving.
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I got $7k off sticker price. BMW loyalty helped with that!
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Because its at least $50k or more to get a reasonably optioned X2 M35i. The 28i trim is fair price wise in its class, but I'd have a hard time justifying purchasing an X2 M35i, when its small, cramped, less practical and has less visibility than say a normal SUV, while still not being as fun as a hot hatch.

I just think for the money, a GTI/Golf R could provide more thrills with similar practicality for less, or a regular SUV would provide better utility for the same price, hell even a 4GC could be equipped for a similar price but provide RWD and still decent utility.

The X2 is just one of those cars where its the answer to a question no one asked.
Did you compare the VW Arteon when you bought/leased your CLS?
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Because its at least $50k or more to get a reasonably optioned X2 M35i. The 28i trim is fair price wise in its class, but I'd have a hard time justifying purchasing an X2 M35i, when its small, cramped, less practical and has less visibility than say a normal SUV, while still not being as fun as a hot hatch.

I just think for the money, a GTI/Golf R could provide more thrills with similar practicality for less, or a regular SUV would provide better utility for the same price, hell even a 4GC could be equipped for a similar price but provide RWD and still decent utility.

The X2 is just one of those cars where its the answer to a question no one asked.
Did you compare the VW Arteon when you bought/leased your CLS?
I understand you think its weird that I'm comparing a VW to the x2 its just that when I think of the X2, I think of it just as a tall hot hatch than really an SUV, so I just think, if you want performance and handling, and you're giving up the cargo space of a real SUV for something small and almost hatch-like, a GTI/R could be offer a similar experience for less.
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I got $7k off sticker price. BMW loyalty helped with that!
Yeah price is not really an issue if you get a great deal. I ended up $4400 off sticker plus $3250 apr credit, $1000 loyalty and should get $500 from bmwcca.. all told over 9 grand off.. I think itís an awesome car
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Because its at least $50k or more to get a reasonably optioned X2 M35i. The 28i trim is fair price wise in its class, but I'd have a hard time justifying purchasing an X2 M35i, when its small, cramped, less practical and has less visibility than say a normal SUV, while still not being as fun as a hot hatch.

I just think for the money, a GTI/Golf R could provide more thrills with similar practicality for less, or a regular SUV would provide better utility for the same price, hell even a 4GC could be equipped for a similar price but provide RWD and still decent utility.

The X2 is just one of those cars where its the answer to a question no one asked.
Dude, you sound like a close-minded auto journalist who can't think outside the box.

For me, I simply set a price range and made a short list of what I absolutely wanted/needed.
1. premium brand
2. top safety rating
3. 0-60 less than 6 sec
4. sporty handling
5. design
6. compact exterior size (urban driving)
7. sufficient interior space (no kids, no large dog)

My decision was made after test driving the 430GC, 330xi, XC40, A4, A3, C300, previous Q3 and GLA.
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Because its at least $50k or more to get a reasonably optioned X2 M35i. The 28i trim is fair price wise in its class, but I'd have a hard time justifying purchasing an X2 M35i, when its small, cramped, less practical and has less visibility than say a normal SUV, while still not being as fun as a hot hatch.

I just think for the money, a GTI/Golf R could provide more thrills with similar practicality for less, or a regular SUV would provide better utility for the same price, hell even a 4GC could be equipped for a similar price but provide RWD and still decent utility.

The X2 is just one of those cars where its the answer to a question no one asked.
Dude, you sound like a close-minded auto journalist who can't think outside the box.

For me, I simply set a price range and made a short list of what I absolutely wanted/needed.
1. premium brand
2. top safety rating
3. 0-60 less than 6 sec
4. sporty handling
5. design
6. compact exterior size (urban driving)
7. sufficient interior space (no kids, no large dog)

My decision was made after test driving the 430GC, 330xi, XC40, A4, A3, C300, previous Q3 and GLA.
Again I said I like plenty of things about the X2, and it is a good vehicle, I just wouldn't ever buy one because I don't think it offers anything that a similar vehicle could offer for less or similar pricing.
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