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      07-06-2016, 10:37 PM   #67
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No the real clown(s) are the career politicians who couldn't deal with this loose cannon and were made fools of. The GOP has no one to blame but themselves (the establishment) for the situation they are in as a party going into the presidential election. I was beside myself when the size of one's hands was brought up as some legitimate talking point. Really?

For the record, I'm no fan of the Republicans or Democrats nor either candidate...talk about being forced to pick from the lesser of two evils.
Completely agree. As for the lesser of two evils, this is how I would normally go about approaching such a matter. However, this time around I am afraid that the two evils we have to choose from are both so bad that there is no clear cut choice. For the first time since I have been afforded the privilege of being allowed to exercise my right to vote, I may not vote at all. That is unless a viable third party alternative emerges in the next 4 months. I know there are those who will think that I might just be throwing away a vote, but as of right now I feel I would be doing the exact same thing by voting for either one of the two nominees that we currently have to pick from. I firmly believe that which ever one of these two manages to get elected, the end result of their presidency will effectively be the same. Sure, the route taken to get there might differentiate somewhat between the two, however, the ultimate destination will end up being the same, and I find that very troubling.
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Completely agree. As for the lesser of two evils, this is how I would normally go about approaching such a matter. However, this time around I am afraid that the two evils we have to choose from are both so bad that there is no clear cut choice. For the first time since I have been afforded the privilege of being allowed to exercise my right to vote, I may not vote at all. That is unless a viable third party alternative emerges in the next 4 months. I know there are those who will think that I might just be throwing away a vote, but as of right now I feel I would be doing the exact same thing by voting for either one of the two nominees that we currently have to pick from. I firmly believe that which ever one of these two manages to get elected, the end result of their presidency will effectively be the same. Sure, the route taken to get there might differentiate somewhat between the two, however, the ultimate destination will end up being the same, and I find that very troubling.
^^^THIS!!!!!^^^
Neither of these candidates deserves to be president. Never before has the term "lesser of two evils" been more appropriate, and yet it is still a complete coin toss as to who really is the lesser. I can only hope Johnson gets the 15% required (of course by the 2 controlling parties) to be part of the debates. Could be interesting to see and hear more from him. If there was ever an election cycle where a viable 3rd party candidate could pull it off, it's this one. We have truly been handed 2 bowl of shit, and we are expected to pick the smell we like more.
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Off topic....yes...man up and get it done. I didn't have the luxury of having a routine colonoscopy. Mine was ordered due to symptoms as I was way below the screening age of 50. I woke up from the anesthesia with my GI doctor telling me he found a 3CM mass in my descending colon. The next few days were filled with blood work (CEA test), CT scan, PET scan, liver specialist consult because of 2 3CM lesions found in my liver, and then surgery to take 7" of my colon out.

I was hoping that was it for my nightmare, but it wasn't. The pathology report from the tumor showed 1 lymph node out of 17 taken out had cancer in it which made me Stage 3B. This led me to endure 6 months of FOLFOX6 chemo. Believe me, you would do 100 colonoscopy preps compared to the world of hurt you'll experience dealing with chemo. Now I have to go through reliving the trauma of cancer every 6 months when I have to go back for follow ups to see if I have a recurrence.

So don't put yourself into a situation where you voluntarily cause yourself to have increased risk of cancer due to being scared of dealing with the prep and having a tube shoved up your butt. Sorry about being so blunt but I don't want to sit idly by and see someone who could have done something to prevent dealing with cancer.
Eye OPENER. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your post even though your test results weren't negative. Things could have been much worse may be the positive point I can tell you. My cousins ex husband felt an unusual pain and went in. Not colon but he had a cantaloupe size mass. He died five months later. Active and happy fella...gone like that.

Sorry politically curious people. Carry on.
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      07-07-2016, 06:29 AM   #70
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Eye OPENER. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your post even though your test results weren't negative. Things could have been much worse may be the positive point I can tell you. My cousins ex husband felt an unusual pain and went in. Not colon but he had a cantaloupe size mass. He died five months later. Active and happy fella...gone like that.

Sorry politically curious people. Carry on.
No problem. Just do it. If you don't like the crap the GI doctor is telling you to use to clear out your insides (most likely Moviprep or something similar), my GI doctor gave me a list of stuff to mix together made up of regular over the counter stuff which does the same thing. Just contact me via PM and I'll see if I can find the "ingredients" list.

In my case, I felt perfectly normal. Had no other symptoms other than having heavy bleeding (which I thought was just something I ate giving the crap that red color). Being a former first responder and having taken a few bio/medical classes going through school, I knew that wasn't normal. Thank goodness I recognized something was wrong and my medical team took the situation seriously. There are others who didn't have a medical team that took it seriously and sat on the symptoms as the tumor continued to grow and spread. I could have easily been one of them and I know had I been in those people's unfortunate situation, would be dealing with a stage 4 diagnosis.

A colonoscopy is the best procedure to catch things in your colon. The earlier you catch things (the best being if it's a polyp) the better your prognosis. Catch it as a polyp, you're pretty much 100% cured. Catch it at stage 1, you're looking at some where in the high 90% you're cured. Catch it at stage 2, you're looking at varying cure rates of about high 80% to the mid 90%. Catch it at stage 3, you're looking at any where from the 40% to the low 80% depending on the stats you look at. Catch it at stage 4 and you're looking at no chance of a cure to the low teens. You want to get it when it's still a polyp. No blood test or scan is going to be able to pick up a polyp or can remove it if one is found except for a colonoscopy.

Sorry again for the off topic but I feel this is important to post up since colonoscopy was brought up and how serious it is to get the test done if you're due or your doctor orders one for you.
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Completely agree. As for the lesser of two evils, this is how I would normally go about approaching such a matter. However, this time around I am afraid that the two evils we have to choose from are both so bad that there is no clear cut choice. For the first time since I have been afforded the privilege of being allowed to exercise my right to vote, I may not vote at all. That is unless a viable third party alternative emerges in the next 4 months. I know there are those who will think that I might just be throwing away a vote, but as of right now I feel I would be doing the exact same thing by voting for either one of the two nominees that we currently have to pick from. I firmly believe that which ever one of these two manages to get elected, the end result of their presidency will effectively be the same. Sure, the route taken to get there might differentiate somewhat between the two, however, the ultimate destination will end up being the same, and I find that very troubling.
My feeling is that not voting is the same as not caring enough to bother. In the end there will be 2-3 choices, they are not exactly the same and I feel like it is my job to pick the best candidate available regardless of how bad they are. Proving some point by not participating isn't for me.

As a Republican, Trump did prove me wrong. I said a long time ago there was no chance I would ever vote for Hillary.
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No problem. Just do it. If you don't like the crap the GI doctor is telling you to use to clear out your insides (most likely Moviprep or something similar), my GI doctor gave me a list of stuff to mix together made up of regular over the counter stuff which does the same thing. Just contact me via PM and I'll see if I can find the "ingredients" list.

In my case, I felt perfectly normal. Had no other symptoms other than having heavy bleeding (which I thought was just something I ate giving the crap that red color). Being a former first responder and having taken a few bio/medical classes going through school, I knew that wasn't normal. Thank goodness I recognized something was wrong and my medical team took the situation seriously. There are others who didn't have a medical team that took it seriously and sat on the symptoms as the tumor continued to grow and spread. I could have easily been one of them and I know had I been in those people's unfortunate situation, would be dealing with a stage 4 diagnosis.

A colonoscopy is the best procedure to catch things in your colon. The earlier you catch things (the best being if it's a polyp) the better your prognosis. Catch it as a polyp, you're pretty much 100% cured. Catch it at stage 1, you're looking at some where in the high 90% you're cured. Catch it at stage 2, you're looking at varying cure rates of about high 80% to the mid 90%. Catch it at stage 3, you're looking at any where from the 40% to the low 80% depending on the stats you look at. Catch it at stage 4 and you're looking at no chance of a cure to the low teens. You want to get it when it's still a polyp. No blood test or scan is going to be able to pick up a polyp or can remove it if one is found except for a colonoscopy.

Sorry again for the off topic but I feel this is important to post up since colonoscopy was brought up and how serious it is to get the test done if you're due or your doctor orders one for you.
Haven't stopped thinking about it since I read your initial post. My GI won't even do the stool only test which is what I tried to talk him into. He said what you did...going in is the only option.
I'll get it done before months end. I may take you up on the recipe bit.

Sorry again everyone. I'm done.

Some of you probably wish I would just keep talking about health and not how despicable hillary and obama are.


You know those cheesy magazines at the market check outs?
I saw The National Enquirer this morning.

CORRUPT blazed across the front with a big picture of hillary with her arms raised to mid torso palms up. A "what?" type pose.

The magazine next to it had a gorgeous brunette on the cover asking you to check out her diet and exercise routine.
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I'm glad someone sees things clearly
I do buddy, I served in the military with a Muslim on my team. He was an American, but of Pakistani descent. He was as patriotic an American as there ever was. So I know, it's not Muslims that hate us, ISIS can recruit because we are there and the people of the area don't want us there (rightfully so, they aren't stupid, they know Americans don't give a shit about their lives, we just want the oil)
Why would anyone think we want their oil?

1. We are producing a vast quantity of oil in the US (despite Obama), and the ME is trying to shut us down by producing at full capacity,

2. Despite the billions spent in the ME, we didn't make them pay us back with oil or oil money,

3. If we opened the ANWR to oil production, it would significantly improve our position,

4. We are soaked in natural gas, and could be energy independent in less than 20 years
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Why would anyone think we want their oil?

1. We are producing a vast quantity of oil in the US (despite Obama), and the ME is trying to shut us down by producing at full capacity,

2. Despite the billions spent in the ME, we didn't make them pay us back with oil or oil money,

3. If we opened the ANWR to oil production, it would significantly improve our position,

4. We are soaked in natural gas, and could be energy independent in less than 20 years
So ISIS can't have it.
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Why would anyone think we want their oil?

1. We are producing a vast quantity of oil in the US (despite Obama), and the ME is trying to shut us down by producing at full capacity,

2. Despite the billions spent in the ME, we didn't make them pay us back with oil or oil money,

3. If we opened the ANWR to oil production, it would significantly improve our position,

4. We are soaked in natural gas, and could be energy independent in less than 20 years
So ISIS can't have it.
This is all way prior to ISIS
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No Isis, no Al Queda, and no terrorists attacks of any kind under Saddams watch. Same thing can be said for the colonel back in Lybia. The Middle East is packed full of animals and we helped to remove two of the best zoo keepers.
Spot on

And I know my american friends don't give a fuck about what others think. But the general opinion in western europe is that the total disaster with Isis, islamic terrorism and the refugee crisis is due to uncle Sam together with that clown Blair destabilizing the region.
Problem is, the middle east borders the mediterranean so we get pretty much all the fallout from that fucked up mess . No refugee ship headed for the US atlantic coast.
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