X1 Oil Change

aafarup · 04-25-2018, 06:19 PM

Hi Guys
My F48 X1 18d was recently in for its 1st service at 15000 Km. Brisbane BMW dealer told me they just did a maintenance check on the vehicle. They didn't do any Oil change. When i called them they told me, they will do it in the next service which is due at 27000 Km. Seems bit odd to me. Do I need to do a interim oil change? Dealer quoted me $280. should i do it or wait for the dealer to do it?
thanks

bimmerdriver2 · 04-25-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aafarup

Hi Guys
My F48 X1 18d was recently in for its 1st service at 15000 Km. Brisbane BMW dealer told me they just did a maintenance check on the vehicle. They didn't do any Oil change. When i called them they told me, they will do it in the next service which is due at 27000 Km. Seems bit odd to me. Do I need to do a interim oil change? Dealer quoted me $280. should i do it or wait for the dealer to do it?
thanks

That's crazy. You should change it ASAP and $280 to change oil is f*cking ridiculous, pardon my french.

ttimbo · 04-26-2018, 06:04 PM

It depends whether you have a service contract or not. BMW uses 'condition-based' maintenance; we had a service at around 15,000km and, like you, were told the oil wasn't changed. However, about 2,000km later ( a month or so), the service indicator came on, the car was booked in (did it all via iDrive) and the oil/filter was changed as part of that — no charge, included as part of our service contract, and about 45 minutes while-you-wait. Slightly inconvenient but I guess that's what condition-based maintenance is!

oakey46 · 04-27-2018, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerdriver2

That's crazy. You should change it ASAP and $280 to change oil is f*cking ridiculous, pardon my french.

That (AUS$280) would be around US$212 or GBP£152, which seems (based on UK dealer rates) to be about the expected cost to change the engine oil and filter.

bimmerdriver2 · 04-27-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oakey46

That (AUS$280) would be around US$212 or GBP£152, which seems (based on UK dealer rates) to be about the expected cost to change the engine oil and filter.

Castrol TWS Oil Change Kit / Inspection I for my E46 M3. USD85.95.

oakey46 · 04-27-2018, 02:20 PM

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Castrol TWS Oil Change Kit / Inspection I for my E46 M3. USD85.95.

That’s great value. I’ve searched for U.K. availability, but couldn’t see a similar kit available here for my 1.5 litre petrol engine, although I’m sure someone will find one somewhere. Fortunately though, my dealer included a 3 year service inclusive pack in my purchase at no additional cost.

bimmerdriver2 · 04-27-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oakey46

That’s great value. I’ve searched for U.K. availability, but couldn’t see a similar kit available here for my 1.5 litre petrol engine, although I’m sure someone will find one somewhere. Fortunately though, my dealer included a 3 year service inclusive pack in my purchase at no additional cost.

My X2 that's on order will include 4 years of service, but I will be doubling up on oil changes and also changing the "lifetime" fluids.

ChrispyjBMW · 04-28-2018, 07:40 PM

anyone know how and where the cabin air filter is to change it?

spitpilot · 04-28-2018, 08:15 PM

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anyone know how and where the cabin air filter is to change it?

Here ya go...

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ter/1VnY8sJcwB

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ter/1VnYxi817G

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ter/1VnYDCQNdp

When you're done...you can come change mine..all those cabin filters are way up under the dash...fun to prowl around there when I was a "youngin" not so much now!

aafarup · 04-28-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ttimbo

It depends whether you have a service contract or not. BMW uses 'condition-based' maintenance; we had a service at around 15,000km and, like you, were told the oil wasn't changed. However, about 2,000km later ( a month or so), the service indicator came on, the car was booked in (did it all via iDrive) and the oil/filter was changed as part of that — no charge, included as part of our service contract, and about 45 minutes while-you-wait. Slightly inconvenient but I guess that's what condition-based maintenance is!

Hey Mate
So you are saying though its showing the next service is due in 12000Km the oil change may come in couple of thousand km ?

ttimbo · 04-30-2018, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aafarup

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Originally Posted by ttimbo

It depends whether you have a service contract or not. BMW uses 'condition-based' maintenance; we had a service at around 15,000km and, like you, were told the oil wasn't changed. However, about 2,000km later ( a month or so), the service indicator came on, the car was booked in (did it all via iDrive) and the oil/filter was changed as part of that — no charge, included as part of our service contract, and about 45 minutes while-you-wait. Slightly inconvenient but I guess that's what condition-based maintenance is!

Hey Mate
So you are saying though its showing the next service is due in 12000Km the oil change may come in couple of thousand km ?

So it seems — that's what happened to me (and it's also happened with my F20 M135i)

spitpilot · 04-30-2018, 10:36 AM

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So it seems — that's what happened to me (and it's also happened with my F20 M135i)

BMW has several "service indicators"...brake fluid, oil change, brake pads etc...they are not interrelated...and I guess the dealers aren't allowed to look at them all and do the smart thing...you bring it in for a brake fluid flush and they say "your oil change is due 500 miles" so we might as well do that too and save you a trip back here shortly."

aaccon · 05-09-2018, 05:06 AM

Mate,

My wife also has F48, 25i X1, purchased from Brisbane BMW.

Oil change interval is 2 years (BMW), but also based on mileage (condition based)

I replace oil at 12 months, 2 years is too long especially with Direct Injection Diesel engines, I replace 12 month also for petrol.
Also depends on how long you intend to keep the vehicle.

There are lots of differing opinions on this topic, but
12 months replacement cost is a small price to pay for extended engine reliability.

If your `handy` replace yourself for cost of oil & filter. If you ask the SA's at Brisbane BMW they will tell you the grade of oil and brand; you don't have to buy BMW branded oil, its either Castrol or Shell LL04 (For Diesel) and purchase filter from spares.

SA Matthew Hayden is very helpful and approachable at BBMW - mention my name, inmail me if you like.

Cheers..

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Originally Posted by aafarup

Hi Guys
My F48 X1 18d was recently in for its 1st service at 15000 Km. Brisbane BMW dealer told me they just did a maintenance check on the vehicle. They didn't do any Oil change. When i called them they told me, they will do it in the next service which is due at 27000 Km. Seems bit odd to me. Do I need to do a interim oil change? Dealer quoted me $280. should i do it or wait for the dealer to do it?
thanks

aafarup · 05-09-2018, 06:22 AM

Hey Mate
Thanks for the info. My SA is Rakesh. I went to him and he did the oil change for an extra $270. But they used Castrol EDGe Pro 0EX 5W-30. Any way i am planning to do it for 10k afterwards. Thinking about learning it or go to a local mechanic. I do agree 15k is bit too much if u want ur engine to run longer
Cheers

spitpilot · 05-09-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by aafarup

Hey Mate
Thanks for the info. My SA is Rakesh. I went to him and he did the oil change for an extra $270. But they used Castrol EDGe Pro 0EX 5W-30. Any way i am planning to do it for 10k afterwards. Thinking about learning it or go to a local mechanic. I do agree 15k is bit too much if u want ur engine to run longer
Cheers

If you take it to an "indy" shop...be darn sure that they know the correct oil fill quantity and that their techs are focused on their work to prevent oil overfill! Previous generations of BMW's took 7+ quarts of oil per fill...the X1 takes only 5.2 quarts....why do I raise this issue?....
BMW warns of damage to engine/cat converter if oil is overfilled...here's the warning given in the ISTA Oil Change procedure:

Attention!
Carry out engine oil service only when the engine is at operating temperature.

It is essential to adhere to the exact capacities specified.

Overfilling the engine with engine oil will result in engine damage.

NOTE

"Too much engine oil can damage the engine or the catalytic converter. There is a risk of property damage. Do not add too much engine oil. When too much engine oil is added, have oil level corrected at the dealers service center or other qualified service center or repair shop."

That's great advice, but how are you to know if "too much oil is added" since the "electronic oil level sensor"...has NO ability to warn of too much oil in the engine!

gnx · 05-16-2018, 03:42 AM

The x25d has a dipstick as well.

spitpilot · 05-16-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gnx

The x25d has a dipstick as well.

How expensive could that be?....On a $40K+ vehicle...It's just Bmw's current US position...probably brought abou by the large % of "3 years and out" leases and the fact that a very high % of dealer profits come from their service department...BMW now thinks all owners' involvement with the their BMW's should go no further than "gas it up, make the payment and drop the car off at your dealer if anything else is needed".

Wasn't always the case...I had an '89 535i and the owners' manual gave a good deal of maintenance info..implying some involvement with the vehicle beyond driving on the owners' part.

Mushy007 · 05-30-2018, 07:39 AM

My first dealer service(18.5k mile) cost £245.00, a bit steep for what they do really.

I serviced the car in between(9.5k miles) and it cost £70 for BMW oil filter and Castrol Edge 0-30 LL04 oil, I will continue to do this and also do the same on our Cooper F55.

As a note BMW oil is now shell, when I used Castrol I noticed the engine is nosier, this was apparent on the Mini also, weirdly!

I've always believed in yearly services, having seen the inside of the brother inlaws E93 330i, its in a shocking state!!!

squirell · 10-28-2018, 06:19 PM

ttimbo · 10-29-2018, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by squirell

Unfortunately, that's the guide for the previous model X1.

Instructive as a general guide but not specific to the F48

Beagler · 05-18-2019, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mushy007

My first dealer service(18.5k mile) cost £245.00, a bit steep for what they do really.

I serviced the car in between(9.5k miles) and it cost £70 for BMW oil filter and Castrol Edge 0-30 LL04 oil, I will continue to do this and also do the same on our Cooper F55.

As a note BMW oil is now shell, when I used Castrol I noticed the engine is nosier, this was apparent on the Mini also, weirdly!

I've always believed in yearly services, having seen the inside of the brother inlaws E93 330i, its in a shocking state!!!

Just had my BMW R1200RT bike dealer serviced. It was going to be £200 but as I bought of them I got a £21 discount. Always worth asking.
All they did was engine oil and filter and brake fluid.

Wadadli Cooler · 10-08-2021, 01:16 AM

I used to work for a lab services company called Intertek which did oil condition monitoring. The experts there reconned 10,000 miles between oil changes is a good rule of thumb. After that oil begins to degrade, adversely effecting ware and performance. Oil change is a very easy job for a DIY mechanic, and for around £70 it's worth the investment if like me you plan to keep your car a while.

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ttimbo Major 282 Rep 1,491 Posts Drives: F48 X1 25i AW; F20 M135i AW Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	It depends whether you have a service contract or not. BMW uses 'condition-based' maintenance; we had a service at around 15,000km and, like you, were told the oil wasn't changed. However, about 2,000km later ( a month or so), the service indicator came on, the car was booked in (did it all via iDrive) and the oil/filter was changed as part of that — no charge, included as part of our service contract, and about 45 minutes while-you-wait. Slightly inconvenient but I guess that's what condition-based maintenance is! __________________ BMW F22 M240i; F48 X1 25i, BMW F20 M135i Peugeot T9 308 GTi 270 Renaultsport Megane 3 Trophy-R, Renault Clio Sport 182.
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aafarup New Member 5 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW X1 F48 sDrive 18d Join Date: May 2017 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	Hey Mate Thanks for the info. My SA is Rakesh. I went to him and he did the oil change for an extra $270. But they used Castrol EDGe Pro 0EX 5W-30. Any way i am planning to do it for 10k afterwards. Thinking about learning it or go to a local mechanic. I do agree 15k is bit too much if u want ur engine to run longer Cheers Last edited by aafarup; 05-09-2018 at 06:25 AM.. Reason: long post
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Mushy007 Private First Class 56 Rep 191 Posts Drives: X3 2D MH M Sport 2021 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Liverpool iTrader: (0)	My first dealer service(18.5k mile) cost £245.00, a bit steep for what they do really. I serviced the car in between(9.5k miles) and it cost £70 for BMW oil filter and Castrol Edge 0-30 LL04 oil, I will continue to do this and also do the same on our Cooper F55. As a note BMW oil is now shell, when I used Castrol I noticed the engine is nosier, this was apparent on the Mini also, weirdly! I've always believed in yearly services, having seen the inside of the brother inlaws E93 330i, its in a shocking state!!!
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squirell Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: bmw x1 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	you can do it yourself, I did it after watching this video
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Wadadli Cooler Enlisted Member 9 Rep 41 Posts Drives: BMW X1 xdrive25d Msport F48 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0)	I used to work for a lab services company called Intertek which did oil condition monitoring. The experts there reconned 10,000 miles between oil changes is a good rule of thumb. After that oil begins to degrade, adversely effecting ware and performance. Oil change is a very easy job for a DIY mechanic, and for around £70 it's worth the investment if like me you plan to keep your car a while.
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