Should you get a air intake with a tune and downpipes?

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-24-2016, 05:55 AM

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I was wondering. if you get some downpipes and a tune like the burger stage 1, would you reccomend also doing a air intake mod?

chillindrdude · 03-24-2016, 06:32 AM

Stock intake flows pretty well. Stg 1 only adds about 4psi of boost max. I'd say the DPs were more effective. But if you got money to burn, I d get a cool carbon CAI for aesthetics.

Otherwise, that money is better spent on tires or a couple HPDEs

shahano · 03-24-2016, 06:45 AM

Does the intake add any HP?

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-24-2016, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chillindrdude

Stock intake flows pretty well. Stg 1 only adds about 4psi of boost max. I'd say the DPs were more effective. But if you got money to burn, I d get a cool carbon CAI for aesthetics.

Otherwise, that money is better spent on tires or a couple HPDEs

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Originally Posted by shahano

Does the intake add any HP?

Gains quoted on the website "gains of up to 10+ horsepower to the wheels at 25psi+ boost levels" .

My original goal was to improove the sound make the turbos spool up but after what I heard a downpipe can do alone, I don't think I will be needing to hear the turbos

chillindrdude · 03-24-2016, 07:11 AM

I think HP augmentation with CAIs are bogus unless you got more bolt-ons (think stg 2 or higher).

CanAutM3 · 03-24-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Gains quoted on the website "gains of up to 10+ horsepower to the wheels at 25psi+ boost levels" .

My original goal was to improove the sound make the turbos spool up but after what I heard a downpipe can do alone, I don't think I will be needing to hear the turbos

You can get the majority of those gains simply by going with drop in filters and removing the charcoal filters.

The PSI dyno thread is quite revealing. A simple K&N drop in provides about the same ~10hp gain as the BMS intake. The PSI intake apparently provides ~7 additional hp over the K&N. An intake is a lot of money for 0~7hp gain, but it does improve the sound.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-24-2016, 07:57 AM

Intakes don't really gain any power. They are more for sound.

They do make awesome sound but if performance is your goal just do a drop in filter and charcoal delete.

Mike

Curt2000 · 03-24-2016, 09:21 AM

CAIs can be beneficial if they include scoops to flood the filter area with outside air. Materials matter, CF tends to stave off heat soak better than metal. Also, it is advantageous to free up filter area to promote better flow.

Check out Eventuri's website, they have put a ton of research into their intake and it nets 15hp, which is enough to make a difference! Sounds great too!

Kr3st · 03-24-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Intakes don't really gain any power. They are more for sound.

They do make awesome sound but if performance is your goal just do a drop in filter and charcoal delete.

Mike

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1235425

mike@x-ph.com · 03-24-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I was wondering. if you get some downpipes and a tune like the burger stage 1, would you reccomend also doing a air intake mod?

Depends on what you are looking for

Intake will not add power on stage 1. Only time intake will add power is when car is FBO pushing max boost (even then power gains are only 5-10 whp)

It does sound awesome, i would get it either way

CanAutM3 · 03-24-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kr3st

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1235425

Yup, that's what I said: 0~7hp over drop in filters

.

shahano · 03-25-2016, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You can get the majority of those gains simply by going with drop in filters and removing the charcoal filters.

The PSI dyno thread is quite revealing. A simple K&N drop in provides about the same ~10hp gain as the BMS intake. The PSI intake apparently provides ~7 additional hp over the K&N. An intake is a lot of money for 0~7hp gain, but it does improve the sound.

Hi, Can you send me a link for drop in filters?

s0ul · 03-25-2016, 04:25 PM

If anything, get CP with tune and downpipes

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-25-2016, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by s0ul

If anything, get CP with tune and downpipes

+1

Mike

CanAutM3 · 03-25-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shahano

Hi, Can you send me a link for drop in filters?

Link to what

?

shahano · 03-26-2016, 04:14 AM

where to buy those K&N filters?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-26-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shahano

where to buy those K&N filters?

Check out the vendor section.. Most vendors sell them I think. If you can't find it shoot me a PM and I can help you out.

Mike

mike@x-ph.com · 03-26-2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shahano

where to buy those K&N filters?

As a vendor i am not allowed to send you any link, but if you go to the vendor section you will find it

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