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      06-29-2023, 01:26 PM   #1
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Carcinogen risk in Diet Coke

Some news in that the Aspartame sweetener used in Diet Coke is a possible carcinogen, WHO's cancer research agency shortly to address.
It is also used in Extra chewing gum.
@ Reuters
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      06-29-2023, 01:31 PM   #2
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The WHO has 0 credibility at this point. Who cares what they say
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Some news in that the Aspartame sweetener used in Diet Coke is a possible carcinogen, WHO's cancer research agency shortly to address.
It is also used in Extra chewing gum.
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Aspartame, used as ant killer cause cancer eh?
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Aspartame, used as ant killer cause cancer eh?
Icing sugar mixed with baking soda will also kill ants.
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I've been warning for years that drinking diet soda with artificial sweeteners causes anal cancer going back to the days of saccharin.....
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The WHO has 0 credibility at this point. Who cares what they say
Agree...

This is a debate that dates back to the early 80's.: *YAWN*

"Since 1981, JECFA has said aspartame is safe to consume within accepted daily limits. For example, an adult weighing 60 kg (132 pounds) would have to drink between 12 and 36 cans of diet soda — depending on the amount of aspartame in the beverage — every day to be at risk. Its view has been widely shared by national regulators, including in the United States and Europe."


If you feed lab rats enough of anything, they will develop problems. Just like humans. If you drink that many sodas, you definitely have a dietary problem. This is true for any abuse of a product.

Just my two cents.
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Agree...

This is a debate that dates back to the early 80's.: *YAWN*

"Since 1981, JECFA has said aspartame is safe to consume within accepted daily limits. For example, an adult weighing 60 kg (132 pounds) would have to drink between 12 and 36 cans of diet soda — depending on the amount of aspartame in the beverage — every day to be at risk. Its view has been widely shared by national regulators, including in the United States and Europe."


If you feed lab rats enough of anything, they will develop problems. Just like humans. If you drink that many sodas, you definitely have a dietary problem. This is true for any abuse of a product.

Just my two cents.
Before aspartame it was saccharine. I remember sitting through a lecture in biology a very long time ago and the question was raised about saccharine and cancer. Similar data from lab rats, 200 cans a day for 2 years was the equivalent to cause cancer as I recall.

Everything in moderation.......including moderation.
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Was saccharine the sweetener in Koolaid where you had to drink a bathtub of it daily to be at risk?
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Icing sugar mixed with baking soda will also kill ants.
Yes but sugar and baking soda been used oft in foods for awhile and don't cause you cancer. Jurys out on too much sugar.
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Yes but that don't cause you cancer.
Some researcher will probably feed rats several pounds a day to find out.
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I’m in California. Everything causes cancer here. It’s the law.

* sips a Coke Zero
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My mother in law drinks a LOT of Diet Coke. I won't mention this to her....
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My mother in law drinks a LOT of Diet Coke. I won't mention this to her....
Better than booze...

I drink a couple diet cokes a day. No plans of stopping
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Agree...

This is a debate that dates back to the early 80's.: *YAWN*

"Since 1981, JECFA has said aspartame is safe to consume within accepted daily limits. For example, an adult weighing 60 kg (132 pounds) would have to drink between 12 and 36 cans of diet soda — depending on the amount of aspartame in the beverage — every day to be at risk. Its view has been widely shared by national regulators, including in the United States and Europe."


If you feed lab rats enough of anything, they will develop problems. Just like humans. If you drink that many sodas, you definitely have a dietary problem. This is true for any abuse of a product.

Just my two cents.
Agreed.

I think part of the issue is people with a sugar addiction will instead drink excessive amounts of Diet Coke thinking it is better than regular coke. I had a boss at a college job who literally drank 3 diet Cokes a day.
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Better than booze...

I drink a couple diet cokes a day. No plans of stopping
What if you put dark rum in diet coke, do the two negatives make a positive? Asking for a friend.
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What if you put dark rum in diet coke, do the two negatives make a positive? Asking for a friend.
The sugar from the rum basically turns it into real coke deleting the fake sugar. You are good to go!
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There are two things that one needs to know about this topic:

1. The need to proclaim "new" evidence from researchers in wanting to get published and getting government grant money despite the fact that this horse has been flogged to death several times.

2. The turf war and lawsuits between artificial and natural sweeteners that pre-dates my birth; with claims of health on both sides.

BTW, I drink Diet Pepsi.™

PS: Can anyone find research on how many deaths by Aspartame since the introduction of the product.
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As I've read from another forum, this is just clickbait really.

"Current standards by actual food safety regulatory bodies establish safe consumption limits that would require you to drink between 12-36 aspartame sodas daily for you to exceed safety limits.

This WHO advisory isn't doing novel research, they're recategorizing based on discredited studies and a flawed categorization system that most governmental safety organizations have criticized."
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Was saccharine the sweetener in Koolaid where you had to drink a bathtub of it daily to be at risk?
IIRC, that was cyclamate. I think it was a bathtub daily (10 gallons?) for something like 10 years.
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If Diet Coke causes cancer I am screwed! I have 4 of them every day.
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If Diet Coke causes cancer I am screwed! I have 4 of them every day.
You need to add about 30 more to increase your chances!!
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Would have to see further research on this.

I will say i stopped drinking diet soda because I noticed it started making me crave foods I typically don’t eat like candies and other junk food.
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