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      04-28-2021, 12:07 AM   #89
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It's looking pretty promising in the ugly department so far.
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Wife can't drive stick, and DSG/PDK/DCT has always been the compromise for us. Torque converter / ZF8 is a non-starter.

The things BMW has been doing the last couple years are just pushing us more and more to Porsche. Even the interiors of the new cars are garbage and are filled with cheap shiny plastics. The switches on the center panels feel like crap in the new cars and have no travel.

The list goes on and on. It's very sad.
BMW would be thinking wrong if they think ZF8 brings more customers to the M2 platform than DCT, they already lost 3 from my side. Then again, one ZF8 sold probably makes more profit than 3 DCTs sold.
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      04-28-2021, 12:53 AM   #91
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Optimistic! I'm expecting 6-speed, CF roof, adaptive suspension, S58, better interior (including HUD), and improved steering, ride, grip & handling, based on what BMW accomplished with G80. This will be my F80 replacement.
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Where are the spy photos of this new M2... ?

I keep looking for them & can't seem to find them.
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      04-28-2021, 04:30 AM   #93
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ok the right car with a manual gerabox to buy to put in the garage "before it's too late" as electric cars are coming....
That car is the F87. More raw dynamics, less restricted (last S55 are locked), less digital (instruments), more carbon (instead of metal engine strut brace or faux luxe interior of the G8x), smaller and lighter (particulate filters mandatory).
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Adaptive suspension would be nice.
Why? Some F87 CS owners are throwing that away. Added weight and complexity with future legacy dramas (hence why many of these cars are converted to good old hydraulic systems).
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      04-28-2021, 05:33 AM   #95
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Whatever happened to analog displays? Why do we need such big screens?
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BMW is axing the Z4 and 2er convertible, your best hope is for a M4 Vert (not sure if its been confirmed for a manual), otherwise pretty much only Porsche, Mazda, Ford, and Chevy will have alternatives.
Damn, okay thanks
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20" rear wheels... why? This is supposed to be a small and fun car
???
Is the Porsche 911 a large or small car. I think a G87 M2 might even be a bit bigger.
What's the wheel size of the 992 911? Back 21", front 20".
So, why do you think, that 20/19 is too large?
It's all about driving dynamics.
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Green over tan 6 speed, c'mon BMW... Don't mess this up.
God yes!

A piece of me wants to "cash in" my F87 now while prices are high to prepare for G87. Another piece wants to have both. Would hate to move it along and then be disappointed in G87.
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Where are the spy photos of this new M2... ?

I keep looking for them & can't seem to find them.
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1776584
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Optimistic! I'm expecting 6-speed, CF roof, adaptive suspension, S58, better interior (including HUD), and improved steering, ride, grip & handling, based on what BMW accomplished with G80. This will be my F80 replacement.
Agreed, this recipe is so enticing. And if it's ~$65k, you can more or less count me in. Would be a great way to say farewell to the 6MT if this is the end.
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Is anyone still under the belief that the DCT is not gone? Time to move on to reality.
Gone at BMW...
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I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.
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My predictions:
- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4
The G87 M2 fenders look rather un-"traditional", though.







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I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.
It sounds like there will be a lot of options such as carbon roof that will add to a base price for those that want the more expensive version. It will be interesting to see base starting price and all the doodads that can be added.
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      04-28-2021, 09:03 AM   #106
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I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.
It sounds like there will be a lot of options such as carbon roof that will add to a base price for those that want the more expensive version. It will be interesting to see base starting price and all the doodads that can be added.
Indeed

Though the big draw of the OG M2 to me was the lack of doodads!

Car drove and sounded great, what else do you need?!!?

As long as it has 6MT, A/C, heat, and a stereo, I'm good to go!
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Let's hope they change their mind on the carbon bucket seats.

Pumped for this car!
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If the new M2 G87 has options like the M3/M4 then I believe the configured price will be higher than what people are expecting.
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Why? Some F87 CS owners are throwing that away. Added weight and complexity with future legacy dramas (hence why many of these cars are converted to good old hydraulic systems).
The stock M2 suspension was hard on my back but I loved everything else about the car.
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