02-02-2021, 06:39 PM | #23 |
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BMW to continue with current design direction despite criticism
Interesting article. Dukec doesn't seem to care what we think. We know a lot of people hate the car and have had brutal criticism for it, but we're pushing forward with it.
BMW design bosses aware of “brutal” criticism but will continue to make cars stand out https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...pite-criticism
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02-02-2021, 06:49 PM | #25 |
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Or, when they contest the design direction we're going, they're no real fans of BMW. And we're happy that we revealed their betrayal.
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Sadly, I have no other choice but to learn to like it and have one on order.
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02-02-2021, 06:58 PM | #27 |
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And here's a good one. Direct quote from Dukec:
“Not all our products get the same critics,” Dukec said. “You can see that on something as polarising like the kidneys on the 4 Series, 20 per cent of people are liking it. That fits to the type of customers we are targeting." Glad they are aiming high at 20%.
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But like many asked already here: how come that the board approved this all together? Is this the local retards club of Munich having an excursion day out at BMW headquarters and they mixed up the meeting minutes somehow? |
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“I never go to clinics because comments can be brutal and not enjoyable. I wait for the final global evaluation on feedback - and we do it with social media. We look and analyse the data, where does it come from? Is it loved? Which market did it come from? Social media is analysed as well, but we don't know if there are real customers behind those comments but we know they are real voices so we listen.” So they don't even do clinics. I wondered how it was possible that they have missed this in the process, it's just because they don't capture any criticism until it is revealed! What a bunch of idiots! The disaster becomes even more confronting now! And when it's revealed, they have somekind of personal bias in accepting feedback or not, since "nobody knows whether it's a real customer". No doubt they have been ignoring the criticism and putting it in the 'no real customer' group and ditched it all together. Last edited by KoenG; 02-02-2021 at 07:28 PM.. |
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The target market is Chinese mainland.
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Classic wanker that Dukec guy, we should all boycott, this guy needs to get canned.
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I put that in every survey BMW sends me. But they apparently know the surveys are "brutal" but don't really care.
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they can't be happy with this much criticism. they're just trying to roll with it like they intended it to be garbage.
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The goal is to design something that is going to be well received now, and will stand the test of time in the future. BMW's current design leadership are outright acknowledging that they didn't aim that high. In my view, the E46, E39, and E92 really hit that mark. All were departures from previous design but looked good at debut AND still look good today.
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The G8x series is going to be acknowledged for it's tech and that S58 engine, but it isn't going to be sitting at the dinner table with an E30, , E36, E46, or E92.
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