[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

This is my feeling. If you didn’t feel right, follow that feeling. It could’ve been something or it could’ve been nothing, but I’m a big proponent of following your gut feeling(s).

Beverly Hills has seen an increase in crime thanks to the policies of L.A. County and the state of California in general. The insulated aren’t as protected anymore.

Absolutely.
I’m just being paranoid now thinking of if he can do anything with the photo of him with my car on his phone. I read somewhere about people using those photos to say that it was their car and they were robbed at gunpoint and then try and scam people out of their bank accounts when they call and try to help. Not sure this person could do anything to target me with just a photo of them with my car

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Absolutely.
I’m just being paranoid now thinking of if he can do anything with the photo of him with my car on his phone. I read somewhere about people using those photos to say that it was their car and they were robbed at gunpoint and then try and scam people out of their bank accounts when they call and try to help. Not sure this person could do anything to target me with just a photo of them with my car

There seems to be an endless list of scams out there; most so silly that I don’t know how people fall for them, but it happens.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Absolutely.
I’m just being paranoid now thinking of if he can do anything with the photo of him with my car on his phone.

While you are/were focusing on the photo aspect, remember that the key fob in your pocket started negotiating with your car if you have keyless convenience unlock. An accomplice nearby (or even the photo-taker himself) could have had a sniffer that recorded this handshake for replay in the future.....

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

While you are/were focusing on the photo aspect, remember that the key fob in your pocket started negotiating with your car if you have keyless convenience unlock. An accomplice nearby (or even the photo-taker himself) could have had a sniffer that recorded this handshake for replay in the future.....

That's also what I was thinking, especially when he asked if I could come a bit closer...

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

While you are/were focusing on the photo aspect, remember that the key fob in your pocket started negotiating with your car if you have keyless convenience unlock. An accomplice nearby (or even the photo-taker himself) could have had a sniffer that recorded this handshake for replay in the future.....

Any let’s just hope that me not getting any closer thwarted any attempt at that, if it was his true intention (again, just seemed like a sketchy dude…) better to be weary than gullible when it comes to these things even if you come off a bit standoffish

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Any let’s just hope that me not getting any closer thwarted any attempt at that, if it was his true intention (again, just seemed like a sketchy dude…) better to be weary than gullible when it comes to these things even if you come off a bit standoffish

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.

Totally agree!

Let's just hope if that was his intention it failed, as, at least, after I gave the dude his phone back I did leave the car parked a good 20 minutes, although I didn't stray far and actually was always in a place where i could keep an eye on the car, and nobody tried to open the door or take off with it... would assume that would be this guys only chance...

[Reborn_]

Something probably was up, but I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. You should be fine.

Taking things a step further, your story got me thinking about the "risks" of accepting to take a photo for a stranger. Perp 1 hands you a stolen phone to snap photos; perp 2 walks by and 'accidently' bumps into you, phone drops and gets damaged. Now Perp 1 is bugging you for some cash... it's pretty easy to go down the path of don't trust anybody

[Reborn_]

Interested to hear LEO's perspective about dispatch on this story.

Many years ago, we got a stranger who rang the doorbell at ~8pm (after dark) on a weeknight. This was unusual, and we didn't know the guy. We talked to him through the door and I don't recall exactly what we said, but do recall it was fairly non-sensical. We asked the guy to leave, he stuck around for 15+ minutes and we called the police. Got OCSD out and they talked to the guy, who was claiming he just bought the house and it's his. The police spoke with us, my wife produced a bill with her name on the address and that solved it. The police asked him to leave. He left for 30 seconds and came back. Police were PISSED and told us we could trespass him, which we did, and they took him to jail after he failed to leave once they trespassed him.

Dude shows up 2-3 nights later. Same MO. Once we recognized him through the peephole, we didn't even speak with him, just called 911. I explained the above paragraph to dispatch and asked she send OCSD right away. She started arguing with me. "Have you asked him why he's there? Have you asked him what he wants? etc." I started getting pretty snarky in my responses at which point my wife grabbed the phone and played the "i'm a terrified woman card" and ultimately the police came. I don't recall exactly, but this time I think he left without being arrested. He never came again, so that was the end of it.

My question is .... I know dispatch fields a ton of dumb calls, but what's your take on this? Was it right of her to challenge my request for police support? The whole time she kept suggesting I open the door and talk to this gentleman. I can see that ending in 3 ways - home invasion etc., I kill him, or (perhaps most likely) I slam the door back in his face. I just couldn't believe she thought it was a good idea.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Reborn_

Interested to hear LEO's perspective about dispatch on this story.

Many years ago, we got a stranger who rang the doorbell at ~8pm (after dark) on a weeknight. This was unusual, and we didn't know the guy. We talked to him through the door and I don't recall exactly what we said, but do recall it was fairly non-sensical. We asked the guy to leave, he stuck around for 15+ minutes and we called the police. Got OCSD out and they talked to the guy, who was claiming he just bought the house and it's his. The police spoke with us, my wife produced a bill with her name on the address and that solved it. The police asked him to leave. He left for 30 seconds and came back. Police were PISSED and told us we could trespass him, which we did, and they took him to jail after he failed to leave once they trespassed him.

Dude shows up 2-3 nights later. Same MO. Once we recognized him through the peephole, we didn't even speak with him, just called 911. I explained the above paragraph to dispatch and asked she send OCSD right away. She started arguing with me. "Have you asked him why he's there? Have you asked him what he wants? etc." I started getting pretty snarky in my responses at which point my wife grabbed the phone and played the "i'm a terrified woman card" and ultimately the police came. I don't recall exactly, but this time I think he left without being arrested. He never came again, so that was the end of it.

My question is .... I know dispatch fields a ton of dumb calls, but what's your take on this? Was it right of her to challenge my request for police support? The whole time she kept suggesting I open the door and talk to this gentleman. I can see that ending in 3 ways - home invasion etc., I kill him, or (perhaps most likely) I slam the door back in his face. I just couldn't believe she thought it was a good idea.

The dispatchers response seems odd if you told them that you had trespassed the guy the night before and it resulted in an arrest. Maybe a breakdown in communications on the part of the dispatcher or they didn't understand what you were telling them. The fact you called 911 for an intruder/trespasser should've moved this right up to dispatching at least one possibly 2 scout cars.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

right up to dispatching at least on possibly 2 scout cars.

Well, except that OCSD does have "scout" cars. They use real vehicles, eh

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Well, except that OCSD does have "scout" cars. They use real vehicles, eh

Sorry, my bad. How about patrol cars or cruisers or squads?

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Sorry, my bad. How about patrol cars or cruisers or squads?

No worries, just validates our contingency plan to send a troop of girl SCOUTS to take over the north. They will be totally comfortable taking over your "cars"

[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by Reborn_

Interested to hear LEO's perspective about dispatch on this story.

Many years ago, we got a stranger who rang the doorbell at ~8pm (after dark) on a weeknight. This was unusual, and we didn't know the guy. We talked to him through the door and I don't recall exactly what we said, but do recall it was fairly non-sensical. We asked the guy to leave, he stuck around for 15+ minutes and we called the police. Got OCSD out and they talked to the guy, who was claiming he just bought the house and it's his. The police spoke with us, my wife produced a bill with her name on the address and that solved it. The police asked him to leave. He left for 30 seconds and came back. Police were PISSED and told us we could trespass him, which we did, and they took him to jail after he failed to leave once they trespassed him.

Dude shows up 2-3 nights later. Same MO. Once we recognized him through the peephole, we didn't even speak with him, just called 911. I explained the above paragraph to dispatch and asked she send OCSD right away. She started arguing with me. "Have you asked him why he's there? Have you asked him what he wants? etc." I started getting pretty snarky in my responses at which point my wife grabbed the phone and played the "i'm a terrified woman card" and ultimately the police came. I don't recall exactly, but this time I think he left without being arrested. He never came again, so that was the end of it.

My question is .... I know dispatch fields a ton of dumb calls, but what's your take on this? Was it right of her to challenge my request for police support? [...]

Reading this kind of nonsense makes me appreciate Florida cops so much more.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

The dispatchers response seems odd if you told them that you had trespassed the guy the night before and it resulted in an arrest. Maybe a breakdown in communications on the part of the dispatcher or they didn't understand what you were telling them. The fact you called 911 for an intruder/trespasser should've moved this right up to dispatching at least on possibly 2 scout cars.

I agree! I work a lot of my overtime as a call taker, dispatcher or Watch Deputy. If somebody called and explained that story - and we had already been to your residence 2-3 days before - we/I would have a couple of cars roll to your residence without question.

[STATIC A$TRO]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Over on E46Fanatics, we would regularly have these "Ask a....." threads pop up in our Off Topic section from time to time, so I thought I would start one here to see how the member base takes to it. So ask me anything related to the profession (...Why certain things are done? Do we really eat donuts every day? Etc... ).

i have a fire arm but am really excited about showing it to you so i pull it out really quick, how should i go about that.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by STATIC A$TRO

i have a fire arm but am really excited about showing it to you so i pull it out really quick, how should i go about that.

That almost sounds like a euphemism. lol!

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by Reborn_

Something probably was up, but I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. You should be fine.

Taking things a step further, your story got me thinking about the "risks" of accepting to take a photo for a stranger. Perp 1 hands you a stolen phone to snap photos; perp 2 walks by and 'accidently' bumps into you, phone drops and gets damaged. Now Perp 1 is bugging you for some cash... it's pretty easy to go down the path of don't trust anybody

It really is these days (especially in Los Angeles/Beverly Hills, honestly) 😔

[Reborn_]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

The dispatchers response seems odd if you told them that you had trespassed the guy the night before and it resulted in an arrest. Maybe a breakdown in communications on the part of the dispatcher or they didn't understand what you were telling them. The fact you called 911 for an intruder/trespasser should've moved this right up to dispatching at least one possibly 2 scout cars.

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I agree! I work a lot of my overtime as a call taker, dispatcher or Watch Deputy. If somebody called and explained that story - and we had already been to your residence 2-3 days before - we/I would have a couple of cars roll to your residence without question.

Thanks guys. Obviously I agree, but just wanted the unbiased opinion. To be fair, I probably wasn't as crystal clear as I'm being here, but it wasn't too bad, and when my wife took over, I thought "damn, that is as clear as day" lol. I guess the dispatcher just got stuck on the "man at door - send cops!" vibe and didn't pay enough attention or believe the relevant details from the prior encounter.

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

It really is these days (especially in Los Angeles/Beverly Hills, honestly) 😔

OC is getting bad too - panhandlers and con artists approach me frequently as I'm walking to/from stores, and there's lots of theft. Still not as bad as LA of course, but I think we're bridging the gap!

[UncleWede]

Since you can't cite for not displaying current tags in Cali (W T F????) can you still pull someone over for that and then proceed to find drugs?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Since you can't cite for not displaying current tags in Cali (W T F????) can you still pull someone over for that and then proceed to find drugs?

We can still cite for it after it’s going into the second month of delinquency. It can no longer be the primary cause for a traffic stop during the first month of delinquency, but if the reason for the stop is some other traffic violation, you can be cited for it. If drugs are in plain view or we smell marijuana, it’s fair game to proceed with a drug possession investigation.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We can still cite for it after it’s going into the second month of delinquency. It can no longer be the primary cause for a traffic stop during the first month of delinquency, but if the reason for the stop is some other traffic violation, you can be cited for it. If drugs are in plain view or we smell marijuana, it’s fair game to proceed with a drug possession investigation.

Local CHP is telling me they can't cite for tags if they call it in and the registration is paid, even for some that are year + out.