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      09-08-2018, 10:36 AM   #133
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BMW should take the B46/48 and up the bore/stroke/both to a 2.5L, 400hp version (think 718 to 718 S) and throw that in a proper M2 CSL with a weight of 3000 lbs. There's a recipe for success and fun!
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302 hp and 332 lb-ft. BMW's most powerful 2.0L TwinPower Turbo Engine.
xDrive with BMW's first front axle M Sport limited slip differential and launch control.
0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds.
Start of production: November 2018 for U.S. Market.

September 6, 2018... Munich. Sportiness coupled with a polarising appearance – based on this formula, the new BMW X2 has inspired above all a young and modern target group following its premiere in March 2018. With its extroverted design, the BMW X2 interprets the character of a premium SAC (Sports Activity Coupes) in an entirely new way within the compact segment.

The top-of-the-range version of the BMW X2 is the M Performance automobile.

BMW is now presenting the new top model of the X2 series. The wide BMW double kidney grille of new BMW X2 M35i (combined fuel consumption 8.4-8.1 l/100 km; combined CO2 emissions: 191-185 g/km)*, features a surround in Cerium Grey for visual differentiation at first glance. Likewise, the surrounds of the air cooling inlets and the exterior mirror caps are finished in Cerium Grey. The rear of the X2 M35i is characterised by the standard M rear spoiler and two specially designed exhaust tailpipes, which also come in Cerium Grey.

BMW's most powerful 2-litre TwinPower Turbo engine.

The new BMW X2 M35i featuring a 225 kW (306 hp) 4-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine definitely sets new benchmarks above the previous versions. As the letter M in the type designation clearly signalises, the new X2 M35i possesses the impressive dynamic handling qualities of an M Performance automobile. Behind this is yet again the BMW M GmbH, whose racing know-how flows into the development of all components. The 2-litre TwinPower Turbo engine concealed under an M Performance cover is the very first M Performance four-cylinder engine and at the same time BMW's most powerful version. It delivers a fascinating maximum power output of 225 kW (306 hp). Maximum torque is an extremely powerful 450 Newton metres. To ensure that this sheer power is securely transferred to the tarmac, the X2 M35i comes as standard with intelligent four-wheel drive technology xDrive in conjunction with the 8-speed Steptronic transmission including Launch Control. The automatic transmission features specific M Performance tuning. Equipped in this way, the BMW X2 M35i is able to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in just 4.9 seconds*. The necessary thermal stability of the engine is now ensured by a redesigned cooling system.

Outstanding driving dynamics thanks to M-specific tuning.

Being a typical M Performance automobile, the BMW X2 M35i features, in addition to a powerful engine, also a M Sport suspension system that has been specifically tuned and adapted to match the car's sporty character. A adaptive suspension offering two different manually adjustable modes and combining maximised sportiness and driving comfort is also optionally available. A particularly special technical highlight – and also a premiere for an M Performance automobile – is the M Sport Differential installed in the front axle gear. During highly dynamic driving manoeuvres, this locking differential most effectively reduces possible traction losses on the front wheels. In addition, the braking system has been upgraded for use on the X2 M35i. The M Sport braking system with fixed callipers in Dark Blue metallic and 18-inch steel discs at the front (17-inch at the rear) guarantees consistently short braking distances even under the highest loads. With that, however, the M know-how is still far from being exhausted. Steering and suspension have also both been adapted to match the performance of the drive system. For instance, thanks to a special setup, the M sports steering conveys to the driver an impressively direct and precise steering feel. Furthermore, the X2 M35i comes as standard with the M Sport suspension with a stiffer spring and damper setting as well as vehicle lowering. The rear axle construction has been redesigned. A suspension with an adaptive spring and damper combination offering two different manually adjustable modes is also optionally available.

Upgraded exterior design thanks to M Performance typical elements in Cerium Crey.

The sporty aspiration of the X2 M35i, which is the result of its inner qualities, is reflected in an exciting exterior design with numerous typical M Performance Automobile elements finished in Cerium Grey and based on the X2 M Sport Package. This begins at the front with full HD technology for the main headlights and fog lights and continues with the double kidney grille in Cerium Grey and the newly designed side air intakes of the same colour at the front for best possible cooling of brakes and engine. The exterior mirrors have been upgraded by special caps, likewise in Cerium Grey. At the rear, the X2 M35i boasts a distinctive M rear spoiler and demonstrates its fascinating sovereignty with an M Sport exhaust system with two tailpipes (each 100 mm in diameter). Thanks to the adapted silencer system, the exhaust system produces a particularly sporty sound spectrum. 19-inch M Sport light alloy wheels in 715M styling (optional: 20-inch M Sport light alloy wheels in 721M styling and in Cerium Grey bicolour) impressively round off the exterior design features.

For the first time Exclusive M sports seats ensure perfect seating comfort and lateral support.

An exceptionally sporty look also dominates the interior. As with the exterior design, the basis is again the M Sport Package. Moreover, the X2 M35i features as standard an M Sport leather steering wheel with shift paddles and door entry trims at the front bearing the lettering "M35i". The optional M sports seats at the front are a novelty. They offer not only perfect lateral support for both driver and front passenger in sharp bends, but also the highest level of comfort and safety through integrated headrests. The M sports seats are available in the following three different designs: FabricTrigon/Alcantara combination in black with blue accents, Leather Dakota Magmared, perforated with black accents and Leather Dakota black perforated. Matching seatbelts in an M design are also on offer.

Trend-setting digital competence for state-of-the-art technologies.

In addition to the uncompromisingly sporty orientation of both drive system and design, the BMW X2 M35i also demonstrates BMW's trend-setting digital competence in the areas of operation and networking. For instance, the full-colour BMW Head-Up Display is among the optionally available features. It offers a display range that is unprecedented in this vehicle segment. If desired, the latest generation of BMW ConnectedDrive and the new BMW Connected App can be fitted. Optional functions such as the wireless use of Apple CarPlay set further highlights. Driver assistant systems include, for example, camera-based technologies such as the traffic jam assistant for less tiring driving in dense stop-and-go traffic or the optional parking assistant.

Start of production is November 2018, for European markets not until March 2019.



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Don't see where you mentioned M2 at all.

I've owned 'real' M cars. The M Performance models I've owned/driven are not 'real' M cars, but they're certainly closer to Ms than the 'base' models of yesteryear.
Donít get worked up about his dumb opinion sounds like heís 18. Talking about his ďdads M2Ē. He is absolutely clueless, seen reviews where the M240 were as fast as the M2.
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This was my sentiment when I had one. I doubt I'd ever remotely consider one, but relative to the X1 it is night and day better. The magazine tests seemed to bear this out. With the big engine, it should be a fun little thing.

As for people not understanding why these crossover/suv coupe/lifted hatchback things are popular...well they hold more stuff than a car and unlike a car you don't have to get down into them. That makes life a lot easier when you're 20-50 pounds overweight as most Americans (and, these days, international consumers) are!
I had a 2015 M3, now have a 2017 Alfa Quadrifoglio, but on weekends when my girlfriend visits, I think we take her 2016 X3 M-Sport Pkg like 85% of the time. I hate the look of most swoopy crossovers, but the reality is that for day to day living, they are more universally convenient. Thought the loaner X2 with M-Sport Pkg was actually pretty good, but the X3 M35i version ought to be a real hoot for a daily driver. I live in Boston, so often use a 2017 X1 during inclement weather. My father leased one that leaves in the 4th garage bay at my house strictly to take my dog to the dog park every lunchtime when he visits, instead of loading my pooch into his Aston or Maserati. From my experience with the X1, the X2 is MUCH better, and not a hell of a lot smaller inside. Was actually a lot bigger than I expected, and I’m going to try to convince him to lease one of those next time.
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this is so disappointing to me. I wanted to get an X1 with the 3.0l n55 but they only offered that car with the 6 speed auto, I wanted the 8 speed zf, my hope was the x2 35i would have the 3.0l with a zf8 and they downsized it to a 2.0l
They stopped selling X1's with the N55 in 2015, so I don't get the disappointment - you've had three years to make peace with the M35i being a 2.0L. It hasn't been a secret, we've known for years this is what it was going to be. It does get the 8-speed you wanted, though it's an Aisin unit, not ZF.
The 3.0l i6 has always been BMWs goldilocks engine, it's arguably the best engine BMWs produced, and to this day they always market the big brother of a series as the X35i/X40i with the 3.0l. Including the new X3 M40i comes with it. Why would I be wrong to assume the 3.0l would be in order for this car aswell.
The new models (7er, 6er, 5er, X3/X4/X5) are all built off the RWD GKL platform. That's how they can keep the straight 6. The X1/X2 are entry level BMW's competing with Audi and MBZ for the price point. And the market is showing hot SUV's are blowing up.
I see where your coming from, maybe I just hate to see the i6 go away. I hear M Performance, and my head rings with i6. I hope to see this succeed but I can't stomach it up, I have a feeling a lot of BMW performance following fellas won't be able to either.
agree 100%

they are following Audi and Benz with these pointless vehicles just to make a buck. Drove x1 loaner the other day and wow what a pos. The throttle was like Chevy rental with a terrible delay and response. I couldn't believe BMW can ever produce such garbage. I guess it's an appliance company now.

Why would anybody buy this??? fwd, no trunk, can't turn, tiny windows, fugly ... I mean might as well buy Hyundai or Kia what's the diff?
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4 cylinder engines rock. 4 cylinder haters better get used to it. This is the way forward. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds faster than a lot of 6 cylinder BMW engines, cleaner and better for the world

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Don't see where you mentioned M2 at all.

I've owned 'real' M cars. The M Performance models I've owned/driven are not 'real' M cars, but they're certainly closer to Ms than the 'base' models of yesteryear.
Don't get worked up about his dumb opinion sounds like he's 18. Talking about his "dads M2". He is absolutely clueless, seen reviews where the M240 were as fast as the M2.
Fool, he bought his dad that m2.

And he was talking about the way a car drives, not hp. The m240 is as fast it faster than the m2 if it doesn't have to turn.
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It's funny to me how BMW justifies switching to transversal FWD platforms to make the cars more practical and roomier inside, and then this comes out. Honestly, if it's going to have the option of AWD, it will need a transmission tunnel just like if it were RWD, so passenger room in the back seat will be the same. The X2, specifically, with its "coupe" profile, takes away practicality even further.

There's simply not even one thing that the X2 does better than the previous gen X1. It may look better (and looks are subjective) but that's it.

This whole move to FWD did not benefit the customers at all, it just made the cars cheaper to produce, but at the same time, this "M performance" crap warrants an even higher price tag.
Still the difference of a longitudinal engine vs transverse and the transmission not having to intrude on the tunnel too.

I liked the driving dynamics of our N55 E84, but to say that the new X1 doesn't have a sizable improvement on interior space either means you haven't been in both or just want to talk smack.

Now add the compromised X2 packaging and you do have a valid point. I'd much prefer the E84 dynamics to the X2, but we'll both take a big Mini or nothing at all, it appears.
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I had a 2015 M3, now have a 2017 Alfa Quadrifoglio, but on weekends when my girlfriend visits, I think we take her 2016 X3 M-Sport Pkg like 85% of the time. I hate the look of most swoopy crossovers, but the reality is that for day to day living, they are more universally convenient. Thought the loaner X2 with M-Sport Pkg was actually pretty good, but the X3 M35i version ought to be a real hoot for a daily driver. I live in Boston, so often use a 2017 X1 during inclement weather. My father leased one that leaves in the 4th garage bay at my house strictly to take my dog to the dog park every lunchtime when he visits, instead of loading my pooch into his Aston or Maserati. From my experience with the X1, the X2 is MUCH better, and not a hell of a lot smaller inside. Was actually a lot bigger than I expected, and Iím going to try to convince him to lease one of those next time.
How do you like your Alfa...I wanted one of those but they don't lease like the M3/4 do!
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How do you like your Alfa...I wanted one of those but they don't lease like the M3/4 do!
The Quadrifoglio is a fantastic car, but a better purchase than lease. However, the regular Giulias lease out decently for what you get versus a 330i. They are pretty exotic for the segment and set a new standard in driving dynamics.

Personally, Iíve owned 4 AMGs, various Porsches, and most recently an M3. The Alfa is the most fun and satisfying to drive than any of them. The effusive reviews are right about the icredible driving dynamics, and the overly negative comments about check engine lights are very misleading. Most of those issues occurred due to writer beating the car, and left foot braking it in race mode...something that it is programmed not to allow. It says it right in the ownerís manual, but further perpetuating the anti-Alfa message makes for interesting copy, despite being mis-leading.

Iíve had mine for 19 months (15k miles) and have only needed one oil change...in essence, no unscheduled service visits. Itís actually been the most reliable car Iíve had. A bunch of guys, like myself, have defected from an M3 to the Quadrifoglio, and have not had any issues whatsoever...so in a nutshell, donít believe any of the negativity surrounding the brand. The new Alfa Giulias and Stelvios are nothing like the cars that were here 30 years ago.
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The Quadrifoglio is a fantastic car, but a better purchase than lease. However, the regular Giulias lease out decently for what you get versus a 330i. They are pretty exotic for the segment and set a new standard in driving dynamics.

Personally, Iíve owned 4 AMGs, various Porsches, and most recently an M3. The Alfa is the most fun and satisfying to drive than any of them. The effusive reviews are right about the icredible driving dynamics, and the overly negative comments about check engine lights are very misleading. Most of those issues occurred due to writer beating the car, and left foot braking it in race mode...something that it is programmed not to allow. It says it right in the ownerís manual, but further perpetuating the anti-Alfa message makes for interesting copy, despite being mis-leading.

Iíve had mine for 19 months (15k miles) and have only needed one oil change...in essence, no unscheduled service visits. Itís actually been the most reliable car Iíve had. A bunch of guys, like myself, have defected from an M3 to the Quadrifoglio, and have not had any issues whatsoever...so in a nutshell, donít believe any of the negativity surrounding the brand. The new Alfa Giulias and Stelvios are nothing like the cars that were here 30 years ago.
Wow, that's really good to hear. I have heard the horror stories, but mostly about the standard, 4-pot car. Coworker's girlfriend even had hers bought back. I'm not one to bash because I think they are awesome in every way, aside from the fact I can't walk into a dealer and put down drive offs and leave at $850/mo including tax for 15k miles! Really excited to see what Alfa does going forward. The Giulia coupe is super exciting.
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^^^ Very interesting post about the Alfa. I owned a '57 Guilia Sprint coupe and loved it, despite the Marelli electrics and Lucas mechanical points electric fuel pump. Always carried a points file so that I could clean the oxidation off when the pump stopped working. Why do you say the QF is a better purchase than lease? These can be leased in Houston area for $800 range and I'd like to get one. I' did not go for it a year ago because of the perceptions generated by the mag reviewers. You are the firsr real owner to comment re: reliability. Thanks for your insights.
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this is so disappointing to me. I wanted to get an X1 with the 3.0l n55 but they only offered that car with the 6 speed auto, I wanted the 8 speed zf, my hope was the x2 35i would have the 3.0l with a zf8 and they downsized it to a 2.0l
They stopped selling X1's with the N55 in 2015, so I don't get the disappointment - you've had three years to make peace with the M35i being a 2.0L. It hasn't been a secret, we've known for years this is what it was going to be. It does get the 8-speed you wanted, though it's an Aisin unit, not ZF.
The 3.0l i6 has always been BMWs goldilocks engine, it's arguably the best engine BMWs produced, and to this day they always market the big brother of a series as the X35i/X40i with the 3.0l. Including the new X3 M40i comes with it. Why would I be wrong to assume the 3.0l would be in order for this car aswell.
The new models (7er, 6er, 5er, X3/X4/X5) are all built off the RWD GKL platform. That's how they can keep the straight 6. The X1/X2 are entry level BMW's competing with Audi and MBZ for the price point. And the market is showing hot SUV's are blowing up.
I see where your coming from, maybe I just hate to see the i6 go away. I hear M Performance, and my head rings with i6. I hope to see this succeed but I can't stomach it up, I have a feeling a lot of BMW performance following fellas won't be able to either.
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[BMW is] following Audi and Benz with these pointless vehicles just to make a buck.
Not pointless. BMW is making these vehicles... Actually ALL THEIR VEHICLES... just to make a buck. That's kinda the point! BMW, like every single other car company in the US exists specifically to make a profit. It's shocking to hear people act surprised by this completely obvious reality.
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this is so disappointing to me. I wanted to get an X1 with the 3.0l n55 but they only offered that car with the 6 speed auto, I wanted the 8 speed zf, my hope was the x2 35i would have the 3.0l with a zf8 and they downsized it to a 2.0l
They stopped selling X1's with the N55 in 2015, so I don't get the disappointment - you've had three years to make peace with the M35i being a 2.0L. It hasn't been a secret, we've known for years this is what it was going to be. It does get the 8-speed you wanted, though it's an Aisin unit, not ZF.
The 3.0l i6 has always been BMWs goldilocks engine, it's arguably the best engine BMWs produced, and to this day they always market the big brother of a series as the X35i/X40i with the 3.0l. Including the new X3 M40i comes with it. Why would I be wrong to assume the 3.0l would be in order for this car aswell.
The new models (7er, 6er, 5er, X3/X4/X5) are all built off the RWD GKL platform. That's how they can keep the straight 6. The X1/X2 are entry level BMW's competing with Audi and MBZ for the price point. And the market is showing hot SUV's are blowing up.
I see where your coming from, maybe I just hate to see the i6 go away. I hear M Performance, and my head rings with i6. I hope to see this succeed but I can't stomach it up, I have a feeling a lot of BMW performance following fellas won't be able to either.
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[BMW is] following Audi and Benz with these pointless vehicles just to make a buck.
Not pointless. BMW is making these vehicles... Actually ALL THEIR VEHICLES... just to make a buck. That's kinda the point! BMW, like every single other car company in the US exists specifically to make a profit. It's shocking to hear people act surprised by this completely obvious reality.
But that is not reality except for marketing dept. In the real world not every product line is going to meet b/e, margin and cf targets. Some may be way up or down.
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This could well end up extremely close in price to the 4 cylinder Macan!! Anyone who would take this over the Porsche would need their head looking at!!
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It's not necessarily cleaner. I don't hate the 4 cylinder, I have one in my 530i and it's perfectly fine. But it's not saving the planet.

The mileage isn't all that much better compared to a 540i in real world driving because you've to put your foot into it much more than the 540i. In a lighter and smaller car like a 3 series, the 4 cylinder is the right engine. Unless the 5 gets the more powerful engine from this X2 M35, I wouldn't buy a car the size of a 5 series with a 4 cylinder engine again.
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4 cylinder engines rock. 4 cylinder haters better get used to it. This is the way forward. 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds faster than a lot of 6 cylinder BMW engines, cleaner and better for the world
It's not necessarily cleaner. I don't hate the 4 cylinder, I have one in my 530i and it's perfectly fine. But it's not saving the planet.

The mileage isn't all that much better compared to a 540i in real world driving because you've to put your foot into it much more than the 540i. In a lighter and smaller car like a 3 series, the 4 cylinder is the right engine. Unless the 5 gets the more powerful engine from this X2 M35, I wouldn't buy a car the size of a 5 series with a 4 cylinder engine again.
BMW is deliberately detuning their 4 cylinder engines in G30 in order to sell 6 cylinder engines. The glove is off, other manufacturers are making powerful 4 cylinders with high HPs and low CO2 emissions and BMW is beginning to join them.

G30 is so big that current BMW 6 cylinder engines are not going to make it feel fast, but only make it nose heavy. It needs current 4 litre or V8 engines to feel fast as in M5 and m550i. However BMW can decide tomorrow to make 4 cylinder engines that would be more powerful than current 6 cylinder engines to power G30 if they so wish

Thus we now have 4 cylinder 7 series that is more expensive than 6 cylinder G30. So it is not a matter of 4 cylinder cars being cheap.


Porsche 2.5 litre engined cars have been beating M2 in both straight line and track comparisons and majority of reviewers would pick the Porsche over the M2. So the chassis plays a very significant role as well. Some macans are also 2 litres.
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This could well end up extremely close in price to the 4 cylinder Macan!! Anyone who would take this over the Porsche would need their head looking at!!
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It's not necessarily cleaner. I don't hate the 4 cylinder, I have one in my 530i and it's perfectly fine. But it's not saving the planet.

The mileage isn't all that much better compared to a 540i in real world driving because you've to put your foot into it much more than the 540i. In a lighter and smaller car like a 3 series, the 4 cylinder is the right engine. Unless the 5 gets the more powerful engine from this X2 M35, I wouldn't buy a car the size of a 5 series with a 4 cylinder engine again.
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BMW is deliberately detuning their 4 cylinder engines in G30 in order to sell 6 cylinder engines. The glove is off, other manufacturers are making powerful 4 cylinders with high HPs and low CO2 emissions and BMW is beginning to join them.

G30 is so big that current BMW 6 cylinder engines are not going to make it feel fast, but only make it nose heavy. It needs current 4 litre or V8 engines to feel fast as in M5 and m550i. However BMW can decide tomorrow to make 4 cylinder engines that would be more powerful than current 6 cylinder engines to power G30 if they so wish

Thus we now have 4 cylinder 7 series that is more expensive than 6 cylinder G30. So it is not a matter of 4 cylinder cars being cheap.


Porsche 2.5 litre engined cars have been beating M2 in both straight line and track comparisons and majority of reviewers would pick the Porsche over the M2. So the chassis plays a very significant role as well. Some macans are also 2 litres.
I love the turbo 4s as well, and can't wait to see some 2 liters putting out 400 hp in street cars...but you do have to floor it to get them to move the cars and get out of lame transmission mode. I've never gotten the advertised MPG in the turbo 4s except when driving downhill (7000 feet to sea level) on the highway from Mammoth to LA. I always got the advertised fuel economy in the N54 turbos. We'll see how the S55 does in this regard.
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