Autocar speculates that F30 3-Series will use the oft rumored 150HP 3-Cylinder engine

bluespeed117 · 01-08-2011, 01:30 AM

hoping the car looks like that render.

ChPh · 01-08-2011, 03:18 AM

It's terrible.

3 cylinder? What is it? Skoda Fabia 1.2?

OK I know downsizing... brrr

2M · 01-08-2011, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crackberry

agreed.

but 150 hp? my camry has the same hp. lil underwhelming if you ask me.

yeah but your camry wouldn't get 50+ mpg would it? while being a bimmer at that....I would def be in the market for this - its like driving around for free in a new body 3 series...fu*k speedin

B33M3R · 01-08-2011, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

50mpg.. and $5/gallon gas/diesel

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Originally Posted by fifa

what's with the tiny engines in the f30's?

Uk comparable roughly $7.60 per gallon at the moment.

roundle · 01-08-2011, 03:40 AM

Keep in mind that this is a Diesel (and likely only for the European market).

Some perspective: The current 318D puts out 143HP. From what I see, 70% of the 3-series in Europe are low-output 4 cyl gas and diesel engines. Gas is $7.5 per gallon here!

Current 318d Details:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...calSpec&isPGA=

Review of current 318D:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...-318d-ES-auto/

My thoughts:

BMW should use this new 3CYL D in a in a "Green" Mini. Americans would consider such an option as a second car or for commuting (60+ MPG, anyone?).

Touring · 01-08-2011, 03:57 AM

I will prefer 150 hp from a 3-cylinder than a 4 cylinder. Less weight, better milage and the sound of a 3 cylinder is awesome compared to lame sound of a 4-cylinder.

ChPh · 01-08-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Touring

I will prefer 150 hp from a 3-cylinder than a 4 cylinder. Less weight, better milage and the sound of a 3 cylinder is awesome compared to lame sound of a 4-cylinder.

Are you sitting in 3cylinder's car?

Ok, maybe it's not an 1.4pdtdi VW's engine...

But you will shake like ->

Tallest · 01-08-2011, 06:10 AM

dont understand why the even the 4 cyl is not good enough for USA in BMW but good enough in an Audi...

stressdoc · 01-08-2011, 06:44 AM

IMO breadth of market and innovative technologies are key to BMW's future success in the USA market.

A 3-series with >50mpg would be an excellent marketing point.

The Volt & Leaf attract interest that sells the other models.

Touring · 01-08-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChPh

Are you sitting in 3cylinder's car?

Ok, maybe it's not an 1.4pdtdi VW's engine...

But you will shake like ->

Actually I did :-) The vibrations didnt bother me, but loved the sound of the engine, sound like a real machine!

Traded in my Skoda Roomster for my F11. The car was very practical city-car. Incredibly enough the milage of the 520d is better than this 3 cylinder Tdi. Imagine how the 1-and 3 series will be with a BMW 3-cylinder engine.

JoshM813 · 01-08-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

IMO breadth of market and innovative technologies are key to BMW's future success in the USA market.

A 3-series with >50mpg would be an excellent marketing point.

The Volt & Leaf attract interest that sells the other models.

Well I remeber a group of guys taking the 320d about 1028 miles on one tank of diesel...which is about 72mpg

diehard · 01-08-2011, 08:20 AM

hummmm....interesting?

bavarian19 · 01-08-2011, 09:48 AM

If it is sold in the US, it should be sold at a significant discount over the current 328. BMW's pricing has gotten a little ridiculous as of recently.

The fact that you could spec up about a 70k non-M 3er is just staggering.

Imola.ZHP · 01-08-2011, 09:53 AM

Some American's crack me up, they often forget that e90's and e46's had 4-cylinder power in other countries this whole time. e36's had 4cyl's in the US...

Just because this UK mag suspects the F30 will get the 3cyl, doesn't mean it will make it to the US. But what if it does? If its efficient and powerful, I say go for it! I won't buy one, but those "buyers" that are only buying the roundel (leasing) will probably gobble them right up...

MassBimmer · 01-08-2011, 11:16 AM

Best looking render yet, I love it
US base engine will def be a turbo 4...3 cylinder turbo putting out 150 isn't enough to compete with the C-Class

masamune · 01-08-2011, 11:33 AM

Who wants to pay $40k for a 150hp car...

Marioalex24 · 01-08-2011, 01:08 PM

Looks good. But thats not enough power to move that heavy car.

ChPh · 01-08-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touring

Actually I did :-) The vibrations didnt bother me, but loved the sound of the engine, sound like a real machine!

Traded in my Skoda Roomster for my F11. The car was very practical city-car. Incredibly enough the milage of the 520d is better than this 3 cylinder Tdi. Imagine how the 1-and 3 series will be with a BMW 3-cylinder engine.

Sound like real machine

LoL

The real machine is a tractor?

okay, you are lucky, but I like the engine sounds too, if the engine is inline 6 petrol engine

noro · 01-08-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by masamune

Who wants to pay $40k for a 150hp car...

You do realize that it's only one engine option right? I don't think BMW is about to give up on 300+ HP 3ers.

DimSum · 01-08-2011, 02:27 PM

3cylinder twin-turbo!!!!!!!!!!!! RARWRRRARAWRRR LOL

BMWDAD · 01-08-2011, 03:15 PM

Weight and size might move me to a redesigned 1, or similar class car.

Wolf · 01-08-2011, 04:06 PM

i dont think it will get a 3 cylinder engine on a heavy 3er, maybe the FWD yeah but definitely not on the 3er, too much vibrations from the engine plus its a heavy car lol. just imagine yourself in a traffic jam and then feel the vibrationsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. turboed 4 i guess

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