Am I getting a line of BS from my sales person?

LWL · 08-06-2005, 11:44 AM

Well, let me tell you what I know. There does have extra cost for the dealer besides the car alone. If you negotiate from MSRP and down, they already included the so called MACO and Training Fees in your total price. So if from MSRP down, it would be: MSRP - $XXX discount negotiated= your total price before tax and license.

If you negotiate from invoice and up, they usually do this: invocie car price + MACO + Training Fees = Your total price before tax and license. Invoice up means how much the dealer profit is plus their extra fees besides your car cost.

UNLESS you clearly communicate with your CA about these fees been included, usually they just add it on afterwards. So for your case, it means $1000 dealer profit plus $800 for MACO and Training Fee. Many people don't know about this, so it surprises the buyers when they see their bill. This is what my CA told me. By the way, MACO is the marketing expenses thing for the dealer.

If you do some search on bimmerfest, there's a lot of topic about.

CALIF65GM · 08-06-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BellasBmw

I swear i saw some people post in the "how much are you paying" thread, the same amount for my car but in a 330.

You're probably right, but maybe they were doing 6-speed which saves $1200+ and also because you had to pay for the power seats and it's a standard on the 330.

34Three · 08-07-2005, 11:15 AM

Chicago tax is insane. Weird is that if you buy a used car from pvt party for under $15k you don't pay tax in IL just a 100-300 fixed processing fee based on vehicle year

This is creating a nice little grey market on craigslist etc...since dealers don't have the tax advantage anymore.

Sucks for us new buyers but will help sell my e36 coupe....

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LWL Major 57 Rep 1,008 Posts Drives: G05 X5 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 330i [6.00] 2005 Mercedes Benz ... [7.00]	Well, let me tell you what I know. There does have extra cost for the dealer besides the car alone. If you negotiate from MSRP and down, they already included the so called MACO and Training Fees in your total price. So if from MSRP down, it would be: MSRP - $XXX discount negotiated= your total price before tax and license. If you negotiate from invoice and up, they usually do this: invocie car price + MACO + Training Fees = Your total price before tax and license. Invoice up means how much the dealer profit is plus their extra fees besides your car cost. UNLESS you clearly communicate with your CA about these fees been included, usually they just add it on afterwards. So for your case, it means $1000 dealer profit plus $800 for MACO and Training Fee. Many people don't know about this, so it surprises the buyers when they see their bill. This is what my CA told me. By the way, MACO is the marketing expenses thing for the dealer. If you do some search on bimmerfest, there's a lot of topic about. __________________
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34Three Enlisted Member 1 Rep 46 Posts Drives: e90 6spd, e36, e30 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Chicago tax is insane. Weird is that if you buy a used car from pvt party for under $15k you don't pay tax in IL just a 100-300 fixed processing fee based on vehicle year This is creating a nice little grey market on craigslist etc...since dealers don't have the tax advantage anymore. Sucks for us new buyers but will help sell my e36 coupe....
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