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      05-24-2018, 11:25 AM   #45
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The GLA45 will smoke the X2 all day everyday.
The GLA 45 also costs much more than the regular GLA and the X2.
Considering what it offers I expect it to.

A damn X2 built out costs as much as the current M2.
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I'm not sure this is a fight they want to start....
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I'm not sure this is a fight they want to start....
There's no war because Mercedes stated 2 weeks or so ago that they will build an X2 competitor.
I mean, whaa'?! The GLA is already there doing its thing, but it looks like it is not good enough if Mercedes thinks it should build another one to battle X2.
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There's no war because Mercedes stated 2 weeks or so ago that they will build an X2 competitor.
I mean, whaa'?! The GLA is already there doing its thing, but it looks like it is not good enough if Mercedes thinks it should build another one to battle X2.
Agreed that such a move is surprising...

I could see liking the X2 in theory, because it's small and "almost" like a compact little wagon or 5 door hatch...but the FWD just kills it for me.

If it were RWD and they made a real ///M...well, then you'd be talking. And no, the M40i version won't count for that....
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There's no war because Mercedes stated 2 weeks or so ago that they will build an X2 competitor.
I mean, whaa'?! The GLA is already there doing its thing, but it looks like it is not good enough if Mercedes thinks it should build another one to battle X2.
The biggest difference I noticed between the GLA and X2 is interior space, particularly for rear seat and back. The GLA is very tight. The X2 isn't cavernous like the X1, but the space is sufficient for adults. That's why I ordered one.
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Did MB offer you a bad lease or something?

The GLA45 will smoke the X2 all day everyday.
Where was I comparing the X2 to the GLA45? Was the commercial making this comparison?

The GLA as a whole sucks there's no denying that. It's just a fact of life. This isn't an anti-Mercedes thing. The point of this commercial is to shyt on the GLA250.
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Did MB offer you a bad lease or something?

The GLA45 will smoke the X2 all day everyday.
Where was I comparing the X2 to the GLA45? Was the commercial making this comparison?

The GLA as a whole sucks there's no denying that. It's just a fact of life. This isn't an anti-Mercedes thing. The point of this commercial is to shyt on the GLA250.
It's a stupid commercial from BMW.

I'd love to see Mercedes reply.

Clearly BMW is desperate.
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Bam.

BMW has absolutely nothing that comes even close.
Considering most GLA45's are around 65k, BMW offers the M2 and M3 in that price bracket. Both of which would destroy the GLA in performance, looks and interior quality and luxury.
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Considering most GLA45's are around 65k, BMW offers the M2 and M3 in that price bracket. Both of which would destroy the GLA in performance, looks and interior quality and luxury.
Thankfully somebody gets it.

Seems like we have a wave of Merc fanbois here.
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It's a stupid commercial from BMW.

I'd love to see Mercedes reply.

Clearly BMW is desperate.
What are they going to reply with? When is the last time you saw any mercedes that wasn't white, black or gray? There is a GLA 45 that's red in my neighborhood and that it as far as I can recall.

I just took the ad to mean BMW has fun colors, Mercedes is boring and has boring colors and boring wheels, which generally seems true.
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Bam.

BMW has absolutely nothing that comes even close.
Considering most GLA45's are around 65k, BMW offers the M2 and M3 in that price bracket. Both of which would destroy the GLA in performance, looks and interior quality and luxury.
True but the X2 is weak sauce nicely equipped for $50k+
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It's a stupid commercial from BMW.

I'd love to see Mercedes reply.

Clearly BMW is desperate.
What are they going to reply with? When is the last time you saw any mercedes that wasn't white, black or gray? There is a GLA 45 that's red in my neighborhood and that it as far as I can recall.

I just took the ad to mean BMW has fun colors, Mercedes is boring and has boring colors and boring wheels, which generally seems true.
Is see them in bright blue and white and red like you just mentioned.

And Mercedes even offers it in Flat Grey
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It's a stupid commercial from BMW.

I'd love to see Mercedes reply.

Clearly BMW is desperate.
It's an ad FFS. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad ad. MB already announced a vehicle to compete with the X2. They need to, because the GLA hasn't been a success. The X1 has stood up well against the GLA, Q3 and other vehicles. The X2 is different, but even better in many respects. I've driven both of them and I think the X2 is an improvement. BMW is not desperate. They are in a very strong position in this market segment.
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Considering most GLA45's are around 65k, BMW offers the M2 and M3 in that price bracket. Both of which would destroy the GLA in performance, looks and interior quality and luxury.
Sure, and an AMG GT R will bury an M760i in the same categories for about the same money too. Heck, we could come up with plenty of others if we ignore everything but price and aesthetics like you did.

If a sports sedan (or coupe even) could legitimately attract a high performance SUV buyer, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. wouldn’t be pumping out high performance SUVs to begin with - they’d double down on their performance passenger cars instead. Instead they are doing the opposite because that’s the reality of the market.

BMW is going to introduce the X2 M35i later this year and they are absolutely going to position it as a performance SUV for the enthusiast. If they had an X2 M ready, then you better believe they’d bring that to market too.
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True but the X2 is weak sauce nicely equipped for $50k+
So is a GLA250 with that mentality!
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Sure, and an AMG GT R will bury an M760i in the same categories for about the same money too. Heck, we could come up with plenty of others if we ignore everything but price and aesthetics like you did.

If a sports sedan (or coupe even) could legitimately attract a high performance SUV buyer, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. wouldn’t be pumping out high performance SUVs to begin with - they’d double down on their performance passenger cars instead. Instead they are doing the opposite because that’s the reality of the market.

BMW is going to introduce the X2 M35i later this year and they are absolutely going to position it as a performance SUV for the enthusiast. If they had an X2 M ready, then you better believe they’d bring that to market too.
M3 and GLA45 both are 5 seaters, I would even think the M3 has more interior space than the GLA. It has more features and luxuries as well, not to mention a better built interior. Performance wise, there is no comparison at all, we all know which one dominates. These two cars can be cross-shopped unlike a 760i and AMG GT.
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True but the X2 is weak sauce nicely equipped for $50k+
So is a GLA250 with that mentality!
Sure sure sure....

But Mercedes drops BMW on it's head with their 45 variant !
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M3 and GLA45 both are 5 seaters, I would even think the M3 has more interior space than the GLA. It has more features and luxuries as well, not to mention a better built interior. Performance wise, there is no comparison at all, we all know which one dominates. These two cars can be cross-shopped unlike a 760i and AMG GT.
Any two cars can be cross shopped on price. In the M3 forum I see posts from people trying to decide between an M3 (yes, the four door, five seat M3) and a Corvette or 718. The same thing is no doubt happening at higher price points.

But, that’s the not the norm, and like I said in the part of my post you didn’t reply to, BMW and their competitors offer performance SUVs for a reason. While it does happen in some cases, the majority of buyers don’t cross shop a sedan and an SUV (nor a sports car and sedan). And yes, the SUV market is absolutely blowing up right now if you didn’t notice.

BMW will eventually offer an X2 M and other UKL M-proper products. I don’t think you would bet against that. If you would, I’m happy to make a wager with you. Even if it takes another full generation, once they’ve caught up with their German counterparts in the compact segments, they’ll allocate the resources for true M variants. It’s coming, but it’s not here yet, so the spin doctoring is not unexpected.
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