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      02-12-2020, 07:54 AM   #23
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Not sure how "liberal" I am - but what is the question?

He should be penalized however much anyone else would once charged on Feb 24th.

Good to see it not being swept under the rug.
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I figured (hoped?) this was coming.

He should be sentenced according to guidelines and precedent, but I wouldn't mind seeing him also fined whatever they figure the amount the CPD spent on the investigation was.

False claims deny resources to investigate actual crimes.
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I think Jussie and Foxx should be locked up. Screw the slap on the wrist shit. They intentionally tried to cover this up.
The cover up is always worse than the crime, but lets not forget what this asshat tried to do and the impact that lie could've had.
I almost wish the lie would have went on for longer than it did. Would have made this much more interesting.
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      02-12-2020, 08:50 AM   #26
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I figured (hoped?) this was coming.

He should be sentenced according to guidelines and precedent, but I wouldn't mind seeing him also fined whatever they figure the amount the CPD spent on the investigation was.

and forced to wear a MAGA hat while in public
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and forced to wear a MAGA hat while in public
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Hmmm...not a single liberal member of these forums has a comment?

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(EDIT): Props to KingOfJericho for commenting.
I don't respond to alt-right callouts.

Calling out people for not commenting on Smollet is unintelligent. You haven't spoken out on the apparent interference in the Roger Stone case, which is far more significant to our country.
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Not sure how "liberal" I am - but what is the question?

He should be penalized however much anyone else would once charged on Feb 24th.

Good to see it not being swept under the rug.
Name calling........its what the trumpsters do.
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I love it!
Hope that once the justice is done with him they go after those incompetent(*cough corrupt) folks who dropped charges on him last year.
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Cruel and unusual.

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They always go silent, even after the hoax is exposed. You hear it on national news but you only get a minor blip of it being a hoax after investigation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-cr...nk-11561503352

The bias and double-standard was tremendously apparent when a van drives through a GOP registration booth and no coverage at all on the big media outlets.
If it was the other way around. "Hate on the rise!" "This is DT's America!"
The retractions and corrections post-revelation are never as loud or prominently featured as the original stories. So there's a large residue of sentiments and incorrect conclusions from the original story which never gets cleaned up with the retraction. Which is why the alternative media need to get out in front of this sort of garbage when the story is still in play, to offer some balanced coverage.
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They always go silent, even after the hoax is exposed. You hear it on national news but you only get a minor blip of it being a hoax after investigation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-cr...nk-11561503352

The bias and double-standard was tremendously apparent when a van drives through a GOP registration booth and no coverage at all on the big media outlets.
If it was the other way around. "Hate on the rise!" "This is DT's America!"
Paywall. Damned liberal media, always have their hand out.
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Cruel and unusual.

DANG IT. IF it weren't Wednesday, I might have beat you to it. . .
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You haven't spoken out on the apparent interference in the Roger Stone case, which is far more significant to our country.
That's because mr stone did nothing wrong
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Paywall. Damned liberal media, always have their hand out.
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"Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think
A political scientist found that fewer than 1 in 3 of 346 such allegations was genuine."

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The retractions and corrections post-revelation are never as loud or prominently featured as the original stories. So there's a large residue of sentiments and incorrect conclusions from the original story which never gets cleaned up with the retraction. Which is why the alternative media need to get out in front of this sort of garbage when the story is still in play, to offer some balanced coverage.
Agree with you completely and sadly the Twittersphere and other people who perpetuate and fuel the issue never retract or apologize or even acknowledge. At most you get a deleted tweet or comment.
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Gay Tupac better get the book thrown at him. But it is Chicago so, he probably will just have to do more community service like singing to the Obamas, that will probably count.
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"Hate Crime Hoaxes Are More Common Than You Think
A political scientist found that fewer than 1 in 3 of 346 such allegations was genuine."



Agree with you completely and sadly the Twittersphere and other people who perpetuate and fuel the issue never retract or apologize or even acknowledge. At most you get a deleted tweet or comment.
Real hate crimes are rare, but the Left have a narrative to maintain that needs a steady supply of fuel. So in the absence of real hate crimes, they make them up. There's never any consequences...so why would they not pull hoaxes, given that they have no morals to get in the way?

This Jizzy Swallowit case won't result in any punishment. It'll be bargained-away as a "misunderstanding" or some such drivel. I would love to be proven wrong on that.
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Maybe rare in Minnesota. They happen with high frequency in and around NYC. There were two deadly attacks against Jews in the last couple of months (Jersey and NY State). There were also two attempted cop assassinations last weekend alone.
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Maybe rare in Minnesota. They happen with high frequency in and around NYC. There were two deadly attacks against Jews in the last couple of months (Jersey and NY State). There were also two attempted cop assassinations last weekend alone.
Yeah, I'm familiar with those stories from your area. A couple of the attacks on the Jewish groups don't fit the Left's narrative, for obvious reasons. It's been interesting watching the media squirm as they cover them. They know what to do when it's guys in MAGA hats, but this has got them stumped.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with those stories from your area. The attacks on the Jewish groups don't fit the Left's narrative, for obvious reasons. It's been interesting watching the media squirm as they cover them. They know what to do when it's guys in MAGA hats, but this has got them stumped.
What does that mean? "Doesn't fit the narrative"?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ity-after-anti

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1Z502X
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Don"t believe I ever commented on Jesse Smollet. I have no sympathy for the guy if the attack was a ruse, and he should get the justice he deserves. Got bigger fish to fry than Jesse Smollet.
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Maybe rare in Minnesota. They happen with high frequency in and around NYC. There were two deadly attacks against Jews in the last couple of months (Jersey and NY State). There were also two attempted cop assassinations last weekend alone.
last year there were several cases of vandalism with antisemitic symbols... it was going on for a few months in schoolyards, playgrounds and some buildings. turned out it was a russian jewish kid who was just "bored" and he was a student in my friend's class but leading up to it there was nothing but talk about how this is DT's fault, his rhetoric etc. then afterward there wasn't even a headline stating the person was caught and the only reason i know about the capture is because it wound up being a student in my friend's class. similar situation in brooklyn, there was vandalism on some synagogues and jewish buildings. same headlines, same stories on the news but then when they captured the criminals they were three african american hs students. not exactly the white supremacists and typical dt supporter the narrative was pushing. currently you see random attacks on orthodox jewish people with unprovoked "knockout" punches or robberies. the people on the video are african american but before the videos were found or released it was the same headline and narrative. the one thing all these things have in common is these hate-hoaxes occur in densely populated democrat areas by people are not the stereotypical gop/maga person. the incidents in nj and upstate ny weren't even covered as much as it would if it were another type of individual. which again simply points to a media bias and limited coverage on certain events. i am justifying the attacks or the behavior, i am not condoning it either. it is abhorrent and disgusting regardless who does it but what i am just as angry about is the bias in the coverage once certain facts come to light and how the headlines disappear once the evidence points to a different type of individual than original suspected.

Just a few hate hoax crimes that weren't as the media portrayed them to be:
https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/the-li...p-era-is-long/
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last year there were several cases of vandalism with antisemitic symbols... it was going on for a few months in schoolyards, playgrounds and some buildings. turned out it was a russian jewish kid who was just "bored" and he was a student in my friend's class but leading up to it there was nothing but talk about how this is DT's fault, his rhetoric etc. then afterward there wasn't even a headline stating the person was caught and the only reason i know about the capture is because it wound up being a student in my friend's class. similar situation in brooklyn, there was vandalism on some synagogues and jewish buildings. same headlines, same stories on the news but then when they captured the criminals they were three african american hs students. not exactly the white supremacists and typical dt supporter the narrative was pushing. currently you see random attacks on orthodox jewish people with unprovoked "knockout" punches or robberies. the one thing all these things have in common is these hate-hoaxes occur in densely populated democrat areas by people are not the stereotypical gop/maga person. the incidents in nj and upstate ny weren't even covered as much as it would if it were another type of individual. which again simply points to a media bias and limited coverage on certain events.
Makes sense that the hoaxes are going to be pulled where they're going to get the most predictable knee-jerk positive reception and the least objective scrutiny. Which is going to be in areas where the TDS is epidemic.
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