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02-18-2014, 10:37 AM | #89 | |
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i really wish BMW would bring alcantara seats to the US market.
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What? No. Because you still need to take out all of your leather conditioning and cleaning supplies. PLUS your cloth supplies. All of that together is significantly more work than just using one set. Not to mention, the area that *always* needs the most attention is the outside bolster set, which is leather of all things. So no, as someone who probably never owned speed cloth, you're quite inaccurate stating "much less maintenance".
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As long as they are good looking and comfortable, I really don't care about the maintenance. It just means more cleaning kits, but I think it is going to look GREAT!!! I can tell you that the pic of the speed cloth seats sold me! Team CSAT for sure!
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Whoa, is this a real legit picture? Is that (CS) or (CSAT)? per the ordering guide?
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I do not know which one they are, but those are the new speed cloth seats for sure. That pic gets me all happy and stuff!
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Alpine F31, You can have HUD and CA without ordering leather. Just order the ZEC package. Last edited by Sedan_Clan; 02-19-2014 at 05:48 PM.. |
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Besides, the whole point of speed cloth is for grip, since in no way is leather a sporty option at all. It's absolutely pointless to combine materials like that and force you to condition your leather and clean the cloth separately. Again further to my point, if you live anywhere other than warm coastal climates, you will need to separately condition your leather bolsters. Your friends WILL rub against them coming in and out of the car. Do you lecture them before they get in? Or is it easier to just condition it and move on? The initial point I addressed, and appear to have to highlight again for you, was about maintenance. I am entirely correct in pointing out that you save yourself absolutely no maintenance by going with speed cloth and instead have to do exactly the same routine as if it were leather with the additional task of having to clean the cloth separately. To suggest otherwise is completely pointless and you're doing a disservice to the maintenance of the leather components--which by BMW's own recommendations requires maintenance. Good luck after 40,000mi with just vacuuming.
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.....I've owned many, many BMW's, and aside from my 5 month stint in a '13 X5, every one of them has met or exceeded the 50,000 mile mark. ALL of them had seats that looked damn near brand new. Your mileage may vary. You're definitely blowing the Speed Cloth maintenance way out of proportion. We're not talking alcantara here, and even that material can be preserved with a little bit of extra care (..not to be confused with 'maintenance' in the context that we are speaking about here). P.S. YES, I coach people on how to enter/exit my car (..especially women with their stupid jeans with stupid rivets and stupid jeweled back pockets). Maybe you should start. It might save you leather maintenance woes. |
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WOw at some of the replies on maintenance...hahaha
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Actually, his comment wasn't really about the options only being available in the package (which is a bummer, I agree), but instead he was talking about the package excluding the possibility of the cloth interior.
However, the comment was made before we got the official order guide. As it turns out you can, in fact, get the ZEC package without being forced into the leather interior (which is a change from the E9x M3). So that's nice for some folks. Unfortunately, there are two negatives. One is, you don't get the package any cheaper than if you selected a leather interior instead. So you are essentially paying for extended leather while taking cloth. And, two, you lose the heated rear seats (apparently not compatible with the cloth for some reason) and again do not get a discount on the package because of it. So essentially you are paying $4500 (or whatever the package price is) for a handful of options that should cost more like $3000 or whatever. So it's the package deal that forgot the package pricing. |
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