Committed F8X buyers, will it bother you if the W205 C63 makes over 500hp?

RealStig · 02-04-2014, 07:48 PM

Many ways to say this...

- It's not the quantity, but the quality that matters.
- It's not the size, but the functionality that matters.

bmwluvr24 · 02-04-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

If I wanted more power, I'd spent another $10k and get an M5.

Agreed! But.......I would suspect the only model worth getting at this point has the comp pack, so you are looking at more like $30-$35K more for the M5.

Needsdecaf · 02-04-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by phishhead24

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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

If I wanted more power, I'd spent another $10k and get an M5.

Agreed! But.......I would suspect the only model worth getting at this point has the comp pack, so you are looking at more like $30-$35K more for the M5.

I would not want the comp pack. The ride here on an M5 base is stiff enough as it is. Negligible HP, an exhaust upgrade I don't need...no thanks.

I can buy a $116k 2014 LOADED under $5k miles for $90k. Can buy nicely equipped 2013's in the low 80"s, sub 10k miles.

But it's too much car. Too much body, too much power.

dhoggm3 · 02-04-2014, 08:12 PM

The M3 will put its power down much better, and out-handle the Merc as always. And 6MT of course. It's an easy choice.

Keto · 02-04-2014, 08:14 PM

I remember when the E92 M3 came out and the comparo on Top Gear with the C63 AMG and RS4. Jeremy Clarkson was so enthralled with the engine and straight line speed of the Merc, but then it was 5 seconds slower on the track, difficult to control and ate tires for breakfast.

I expect similar results (faster drag, slower track) this go 'round.

Tonymiabmw · 02-04-2014, 08:27 PM

this has always been the case

RMB · 02-04-2014, 08:40 PM

It won't bother me. AMG's are nice cars and I have owned MB in the past. But MB and AMG at this time is just not me. It is only a personal preference and I like BMW more. I like Porsche (1st), BMW (2nd) and Audi (3rd), but I am not into the MB product at this time. I also don't want to spend 120k at this time for a 991 S, as I would rather spend 85 to 90k for my daily driver. Hence my M4.

M4Trojan · 02-04-2014, 08:42 PM

Nope, won't bother me a bit. As others have said, the new C-class doesn't even come close in styling to the F8x. And the hp is more than enough for me.

Randy M · 02-04-2014, 09:00 PM

I want a car that has handling and balance as the priority over power. Power is important, but only if the chassis can harness and control it.

Maddict3 · 02-04-2014, 09:09 PM

Nope,

I've said many times before this new S55 engine will be underated.

The Bimmer will be lighter, better transmission and RWD.

damnitBobby · 02-04-2014, 09:18 PM

No manual transmission in the Mercedes or Lexus = no care

And then on top of that, BMW manages a pretty respectable weight loss for this generation of the M3/4.. so my decision is going to be pretty easy.

gee-m-w · 02-04-2014, 09:37 PM

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

auf Deutsch · 02-04-2014, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RMB

85 to 90k for my daily driver. Hence my M4.

Good heavens. It looks like you're getting every option/package available plus a custom paint job to be in that price range.

/// M sa · 02-04-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds? 0-62 in 3.9 seconds is slow now vs a v8 twin turbo c63 amg that will do it in 4.5? Just like the same tuned 335i beats the almighty e92x by more than 10 seconds on the track? Do you know how long 10 seconds is? 1-2 oh forget it why even waste my time on stupidity.

Needsdecaf · 02-04-2014, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Yup. And an M5 is just a tuned 550i. After all, it's only 100 HP more.

Try again.

mkoesel · 02-04-2014, 10:51 PM

I am not a committed buyer but answered anyway with a "No". But, if I decide not to buy an F8x, it will be because I bought a car with better acceleration.

I think that in the real world there will be a fair number of folks bothered if a competitor beats the F8x in magazine reviews. Even more so if it happens more than once or twice. Note that I am not saying I believe that will happen.

bmwluvr24 · 02-04-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Justify it however it suits your ego. I, for one, am very happy that there is one less uninformed person who is considering this car. Thank you.

Tonymiabmw · 02-04-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phishhead24

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Justify it however it suits your ego. I, for one, am very happy that there is one less uninformed person who is considering this car. Thank you.

All I know is I've been with BMW to long I love there product. The only thing I see myself in otherwise is a Porsche and someday a GT40 in the garage to collect!

Sedan_Clan · 02-04-2014, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Wow! Just wow!

bmwluvr24 · 02-04-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonymiabmw

All I know is I've been with BMW to long I love there product. The only thing I see myself in otherwise is a Porsche and someday a GT40 in the garage to collect!

I hear ya. I love to go out and test drive as many cars as I can, but BMW just fits all of the qualities that I look for. I especially love that I can change the stereotype of BMW owners in general. I always do my best to be courteous. It doesn't always work, especially on here lately. I have seen more and more members start shit for no reason at all. It is despicable. Grow up or get the hell out of here.

bmwluvr24 · 02-04-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Wow! Just wow!

Bro.......are these guys for real? I am always amazed at the constant pokes and prods by the low brows that roam this place.

Tonymiabmw · 02-04-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by gee-m-w

BMW is going out of the gate with a tuned 335i and an ECU more locked down than Fort Knox. The competition is strong. They shouldn't even sell this car in the US without a "competition package" or whatever makes a BMW fast.

Wow! Just wow!

Really the new age of car is the technology age. From here on out it's going to be about making cars more efficient and lighter weight. At least they are staying ahead of the curve and evolving something bmw has always been great at. The age of big motors is coming to a end for European cars. With new emission standards and advancements in technology big V8 will be a thing of the past. Even the highest performing supercars at the moment. The Mcclaren P1 and Porsche 918 are hybrids. Staying ahead of the curve is key and you can tell BMW is doing this with the new M3/M4 and developing products like the new i8 and i3.

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