[findtom]

Talking to a friend last night. We've decided to find a track in the spring and see who can get the better time.

I don't have the sport package, I do have the 6 spd manual.
I don't have many specs on the Camaro other than it's an automatic Z28 and that it has been worked on and restored quite extensively by my friend.

I think he'll have me on the straights but I might be able to edge him out on cornering.

Should be fun... something to look forward to for the spring (aside from the Montreal BMW driver training posse).

Any predictions? I think I'll have to choose the track wisely.

[M3NTAL Kev]

Originally Posted by findtom

Talking to a friend last night. We've decided to find a track in the spring and see who can get the better time.

I don't have the sport package, I do have the 6 spd manual.
I don't have many specs on the Camaro other than it's an automatic Z28 and that it has been worked on and restored quite extensively by my friend.

I think he'll have me on the straights but I might be able to edge him out on cornering.

Should be fun... something to look forward to for the spring (aside from the Montreal BMW driver training posse).

Any predictions? I think I'll have to choose the track wisely.

Make it Tremblant and you'll destroy him. The key to the straights is hauling through the corners.

[ward]

driver's skill is more important than car choice

but, a 1980 V8 camaro has less HP than your 325 does

he should have ZERO chance

[Mark]

Get some sticky tires if possible, they will help alot on the track

[Ed_330i]

Originally Posted by ward

driver's skill is more important than car choice

but, a 1980 V8 camaro has less HP than your 325 does

he should have ZERO chance

i agree 100000%

especially for American cars in the early 80s.

and those muscle cars which were castrated then.

[LEDZEP]

Originally Posted by findtom

Talking to a friend last night. We've decided to find a track in the spring and see who can get the better time.

I don't have the sport package, I do have the 6 spd manual.
I don't have many specs on the Camaro other than it's an automatic Z28 and that it has been worked on and restored quite extensively by my friend.

I think he'll have me on the straights but I might be able to edge him out on cornering.

Should be fun... something to look forward to for the spring (aside from the Montreal BMW driver training posse).

Any predictions? I think I'll have to choose the track wisely.

I had a 1981 Camaro Z28 - second new car I bought. It has a small block 350 in it. The car is big and heavy though, and won't corner well at all.

[shadye90]

[QUOTE

Any predictions? I think I'll have to choose the track wisely.[/QUOTE]

I say you replace your complete front end with a fiberglass lift-off front cowl, stroke your motor to a 4.3l, raise the compression to 12.5:1, put in a set of hi-lift cams, go with an ITB setup and DFI, along with a sequential shifter, close-ratio transmission, completely gut the interior, replace all the glass with Lexan windows,stich weld the chaassis, put on a set of M/T skinny's up front with a set of Hoosier race slicks and M/T drag lites out back and then were talking..

[c5driver951]

Hmmm...is his car modded at all? If so, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the F-body cars at the race track. I've seen some pretty respectable times out of both Rustangs, and bitchin Camaros at Summit Point. Of course you do have twenty plus years of suspension development on him.

[StewtheBassman]

I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forget BMW driver training!! Let's wear out some runflats!!!

[BMW F22]

dude i smoked my friend's 87 camaro with my 4 cylinder camry!!!

[StewtheBassman]

Either way it would be a blast!

[findtom]

Originally Posted by ward

driver's skill is more important than car choice

but, a 1980 V8 camaro has less HP than your 325 does

he should have ZERO chance

I don't know all the details of his car, but I know he has dropped a new engine in it. It pulls hard, I've been in it when he put his foot down. I'll have to get some more details next time I speak to him.

[findtom]

Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forget BMW driver training!! Let's wear out some runflats!!!

A good mix of cars would be fun. Everyone could go around a few times, then compare each car's best lap time like on Top Gear.

Something to think about possibly for the spring. I'd like to race my mom's A3 with DSG around the track too, but I don't think she'd be game for either driving it, or lending it out to be raced.

Hmmmm.... I'd like to see if I could take down an IS250 too. This could be a pretty good event. By going around the various car boards I bet we could get a pretty good assortment of cars going.

Something to think about....

[Atty]

An '80 Camaro had stock 3.8 V6 (courtesy of Buick), or Chevy 305/350 small blocks. I think max HP was in the 150-175 range. However, your friend probably dropped a small block crate motor in there good for at least 300hp in modern trim. Or, he could've dumped a rat motor in their (454 crate stroked to 503ci) which could be pulling 400+ at the rear axle. You wouldn't stand a chance.

Also, it's just as easy to beef up the suspension in those cars to make it a track special. Basically, for little $$ you can turn an old Camaro into an inexpensive race car.

It's also a beautiful car when restored to original (sorry, I've always loved the look of the old 1970's era F-bodies).

Where the Bimmer will excel is in overall driving dynamics, comfort, refinement and the ability to do more with less. But a stock E90 just isn't purpose-built for racing.

Af you need help getting your car ready for this, I think Bhattimalik can assist you.

[r3amir]

Originally Posted by findtom

Hmmmm.... I'd like to see if I could take down an IS250 too. This could be a pretty good event. By going around the various car boards I bet we could get a pretty good assortment of cars going.

Something to think about....

You can take down IS 250 easily

[ksfrogman]

The 1980 Camaro Z28 is not that quick by today's standards. It had quarter-mile times in the low 16 seconds @ 85 mph. I used to consistently beat them at the KCIR drag strip with my 1984 normally aspirated 2.8L Inline-6 Supra with open exhaust.

Not to say that modified chevy small/big blocks are not scary--they are! The handling for that model year Camaro will not compare to your BMW.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by findtom

but I might be able to edge him out on cornering.

You "might"? I don't think so. If you are a good driver and knows how to handle these amazing handling machines called BMW, you should murder him in handling.

Last I checked, Camaro and Handling does not go together.

[benoitch]

Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forget BMW driver training!! Let's wear out some runflats!!!

Do you intend to do it on your "girly" 16" Stew ???

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by benoitch

Do you intend to do it on your "girly" 16" Stew ???

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone neds to stand up for the little wheels!! That is my calling in life!

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by Atty

Af you need help getting your car ready for this, I think Bhattimalik can assist you.

LOL!

[ward]

even if he has a 400hp crate motor you should be able to take him down on a roadcourse

[fredtoo]

Originally Posted by ward

even if he has a 400hp crate motor you should be able to take him down on a roadcourse

Not necessarily, if he gets in front, his position may make it hard to get around him on brakes or in the corner.