Does understeer only happen when you lose grip?

07chupacabra · 03-13-2015, 09:30 PM

Can you experience understeer without losing grip?

gzim335 · 03-13-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 07chupacabra

Can you experience understeer without losing grip?

is this a serious question?understeer iscwhen u turn ur wheel n front wheel loose grip n goes straight

ashmostro · 03-13-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 07chupacabra

Can you experience understeer without losing grip?

(EDIT- got my positives and negatives reversed)

Yes!

And it's actually a really smart question!

A car can understeer without losing grip entirely. Look up slip angle.

atinybug · 03-13-2015, 11:29 PM

Douche · 03-13-2015, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gzim335

is this a serious question?understeer iscwhen u turn ur wheel n front wheel loose grip n goes straight

Love it when people try being smart asses and show that only the latter 50% is true... Everyday happenings...

The answer has been given, under steer is when the car turns less than it could (exacerbated by losing grip with wheels turned and maintaining a straight trajectory), and most of the time the suspension of the car is designed to make this happen. It's easier to drive and correct: when driver feels car is not turning enough, it only takes taking the foot off the gas to make the car stop gaining speed that would otherwise make the tires break traction, thus allowing it to regain trajectory and make the turn.

Whole different animal when a car oversteer, and much scarier. 99% of the cars (including ours) will under steer primarily when turning faster than the car's capacity of taking the turn.

gzim335 · 03-14-2015, 09:54 PM

lmao so not loosing grip entirely is still loosing grip so stop with ur dumb theories,car grips or it doesnt,now how mucj it looses grip doesnt mstter u still callong loosoing grip

Douche · 03-14-2015, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gzim335

lmao so not loosing grip entirely is still loosing grip so stop with ur dumb theories,car grips or it doesnt,now how mucj it looses grip doesnt mstter u still callong loosoing grip

You must have really fat fingers...

ThatRWD · 03-14-2015, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gzim335

lmao so not loosing grip entirely is still loosing grip so stop with ur dumb theories,car grips or it doesnt,now how mucj it looses grip doesnt mstter u still callong loosoing grip

The shut the fuck up and leave button is in the top right, it's normally a big red x to help dumb-asses find it beneath the shit they've dropped everywhere.

justpete · 03-14-2015, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gzim335

lmao so not loosing grip entirely is still loosing grip so stop with ur dumb theories,car grips or it doesnt,now how mucj it looses grip doesnt mstter u still callong loosoing grip

Slip angle, it's what's for traction. </crayons>

EzequielR · 03-15-2015, 12:09 AM

Well, this turned ugly real fast.

ashmostro · 03-15-2015, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gzim335

lmao so not loosing grip entirely is still loosing grip so stop with ur dumb theories,car grips or it doesnt,now how mucj it looses grip doesnt mstter u still callong loosoing grip

Engrish

ashmostro · 03-15-2015, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by justpete

Slip angle, it's what's for traction. </crayons>

Aashenfox · 03-15-2015, 06:05 AM

Enjoyed. Would definitely read again. A+

timothy2001 · 03-15-2015, 06:43 AM

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Enjoyed. Would definitely read again. A+

Me too! Love this shit I am starting a new thread just to stir the pot. Should it be about oil changes something else? HA!

ashmostro · 03-15-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by timothy2001

Me too! Love this shit I am starting a new thread just to stir the pot. Should it be about oil changes something else? HA!

No it's gotta be more obscure than that. Can't have ALL the plebes verbal vomit at once. Balance.

Efthreeoh · 03-15-2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by timothy2001

Me too! Love this shit I am starting a new thread just to stir the pot. Should it be about oil changes something else? HA!

Winter tires, just to bring the "grip" discussion back into it.

ashmostro · 03-15-2015, 06:58 AM

Oo oo or something about brake pad coefficient of friction.

Gizm0 · 03-15-2015, 07:27 AM

We have a lot of professional racing drivers on this forum!!!

It wouldn't hurt for some F1 drivers to do some reading in this forum to learn a bit about driving...

cdgatti · 03-15-2015, 07:42 AM

The internet... where everyone is an expert... not really.

Dark_Knight_335 · 03-15-2015, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizm0

We have a lot of professional racing drivers on this forum!!!

It wouldn't hurt for some F1 drivers to do some reading in this forum to learn a bit about driving...

Oh man... this made me spit my orange juice all over the kitchen table....fucker! LOL

timothy2001 · 03-15-2015, 09:45 AM

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Oh man... this made me spit my orange juice all over the kitchen table....fucker! LOL

HAHA!!!!

Back on topic, the video above says it all. Period, end of story.

But wait a minute, that toy car was going to hit a black cop.

Frigging racist.

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